jdm3 wrote:Mystical Apples wrote:MKGsMotor wrote:
Kaminsky was also not sought after at all out of highschool and wasn't worth a **** until his junior year at Wisconsin. Vonleh was a top recruit in highschool so that beginning part of his statement already makes it not kamisky's bio. Kaminsky is a career overachiever who I think wont be able to do that among the grown men of the NBA
God this is silly. My response was to the claim Vonleh had a late growth spurt in HS and that explained his PG skills. That's Frank not Noah. This is all totally verifiable btw. Noah measured 6'8" in 2011 (shoes) and 6'9" in 2013 (shoes). 1" over 2 years isn't much for a HS kid that size.
At Indiana 29% of Vonleh's scoring was from post-ups, second highest rate for PF in the country. But he also struggled with ball movement, passing, and turnovers and barely averaged over 1 jump shot/game. These revisionist tales of Vonleh as a dynamic wing are factually incorrect.
Early in his career he was regarded as a wing player. There was a question on where he would finish up until he broadened out and was obviously an athletic PF. At Indiana he replaced Cody as the center on that team so his post up rate should be compared to those guys. He played most games without a real big to help him at all. Sheehey, Ferrell, Gordon, Williams and Etherington were the other guys who started the most that year. None of those guys are bigger than 6'7" so he had to be the post guy but still shot 48.5% from three on more than an attempt a game.
I thought he did well in that spot. He was a very good post player for Indiana esp after they had no choice when Fischer transferred to Marquette mid-year. At that point he was threatening to start which would have moved Vonleh over to 4 more regularly. But in his year at Indiana he was far better in the post. He could shoot but looked lost out there when he needed to make a play. I watched him a ton.
Based on his measurements and talent he likely would have been a top 5-7 pick. Factoring in his lack of BB instincts and train-wrecky passing/playmaking he was picked later. Fans had already anchored their opinions based upon combine results and talking heads, not what actual teams thought of him.