Z-Rex: The Cody Zeller Thread

[Liver_Pooty]

Zeller will probably take McBobs starting role later in the season, besides assists McBob doesn't really do anything else better than Zeller

I disagree. McRoberts is our best perimeter shooter, which speaks volumes on how pathetic our back court is at shooting the deep ball. That and he doesn't get shoved around down low, and is a great passer down low means he should start the rest of the year. Next year? No.

McRoberts is a less talented Boris Diaw that plays like he has a pair of freaking balls. If Diaw played half as hard as McRoberts does he would have made an all star team.

[Liver_Pooty]

Im still in love with the pick, mainly because none of the rookies that were in our range is catching the NBA on fire, at all. Actually most of the rookies look like utter trash.

Now watch Noel average a double double next year..

Nerlens Noel indeed will make Charlotte pay for passing on him, but I would like to send a thank you to all the teams that passed on him, and a special thank you to the former Hornets that blessed my Sixers with a future 1st rounder along with Noel for Jrue Holiday only to watch us draft Michael Carter-Williams, who is essentially a equal-to-better version of Holiday already

You can thank Tom Benson buying the team and wanting to win immediately, which was soooo stupid. Al they had to do was tank just one more year and add a stud alongside Davis and Gordon and its ball game.

[JMAC3]

Zeller is better than McBob. The offense just better suits McBob right now, but it should since he is playing 32 minutes a night. I just think our offense would be more dangerous with Zeller out there as a scoring threat. Zeller is not a bad passer by any means, so I do not think McBob would be missed because the amount of easy buckets he gets us Zeller will make up for with his offense.

Please Clifford run more Kemba-Zeller pick and rolls.

[mrknowitall215]

The day Cody Zeller start making wide open midrange jump shots at a higher percentage than Josh McRoberts make 3-pointers will be the day that I say "Zeller is better than McBob". Until then, carry on

[Liver_Pooty]

The day Cody Zeller start making wide open midrange jump shots at a higher percentage than Josh McRoberts make 3-pointers will be the day that I say "Zeller is better than McBob". Until then, carry on

Exactly. Sik Infant and I are HUGE Zeller homers, but right now I want the team to win, and in all fairness I try to be fair to all the players on the roster on how I criticize them (yeah, I have caught a ton of hell from bashing Walker lately, whatever). But McRoberts should definitely start and get minutes over Zeller for now, most definitely. It shouldn't even be a question on who is the better player right now.

[Eoghan]

Zeller is better than McBob. The offense just better suits McBob right now, but it should since he is playing 32 minutes a night. I just think our offense would be more dangerous with Zeller out there as a scoring threat. Zeller is not a bad passer by any means, so I do not think McBob would be missed because the amount of easy buckets he gets us Zeller will make up for with his offense.

Please Clifford run more Kemba-Zeller pick and rolls.

You were wearing red and white striped Hoosier warm up pants when you typed this, weren't you?

[vorbis]

zeller needs okafor to teach him some yoga.

[LamarMatic7]

Zeller will probably take McBobs starting role later in the season, besides assists McBob doesn't really do anything else better than Zeller

it isn't as simple as "assists". we run the whole damn offense through McBob. and it is working, he has the highest offensive rating on the team besides Gordon (sample size?) and Tolliver (didn't expect that, the spacing he brings supposedly helps a lot).

fun fact - McBob is eighth in the league in passes. he's surrounded by only point guards. that shows you how much he is involved in creating offnse. oh and Kemba is first in the whole league - that's the "passes that don't lead to shots" factor we've talked about.

but, yes, back to McRoberts. Zeller isn't the defender McBob is (while Josh lacks the speed to be good on that end, he does know what to do... so the right word to describe him would be "competent", I guess) and the lack of a three-point shooter would kill that starting unit, if Cody played alongside it. It would be back to Kemba dominating the ball.

[Radu_Hornets]

I actually would like to see Mcbob and Zeller playiing alongside against small line-ups... I think that zeller can move pretty well without the ball.

[Red Larrivee]

Codys best "skill" is running the floor. In other words he doesn't have a premium NBA skill.

McRoberts should continue to start.

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[KembaWalker]

I find it hard to believe anyone is impressed with Cody and the way he has been playing, let alone saying he has been better at anything than McRoberts. I'll say it again...Cody is nothing more than a poor mans Tyrus Thomas at this point. Which is scary bad

[mrknowitall215]

I find it hard to believe anyone is impressed with Cody and the way he has been playing, let alone saying he has been better at anything than McRoberts. I'll say it again...Cody is nothing more than a poor mans Tyrus Thomas at this point. Which is scary bad

There's only 2 posters if my memory serves me correct. I won't mention no names

[Elden Payton]

LP and I have been on the Zeller bandwagon since before the draft and it's not us that think he should be starting over McBob at this point.

If we're the supposed 2, then it's incorrect.

[Red Larrivee]

I find it hard to believe anyone is impressed with Cody and the way he has been playing, let alone saying he has been better at anything than McRoberts. I'll say it again...Cody is nothing more than a poor mans Tyrus Thomas at this point. Which is scary bad

Thankfully he has a better attitude though. I'm not sure what Zeller's realistic upside is. People were saying LaMarcus Aldridge and Chris Bosh after the draft, but I don't see it. He doesn't seem to have the offensive awareness or scoring instincts they have. Zeller just seems like a player whose game was tailormade for college, but not the pros.

McRoberts won't be the long-term starter, but I don't see Zeller as that either. If he ends up becoming that by default, we're going to be searching for an upgrade the entire time.

[LamarMatic7]

I find it hard to believe anyone is impressed with Cody and the way he has been playing, let alone saying he has been better at anything than McRoberts. I'll say it again...Cody is nothing more than a poor mans Tyrus Thomas at this point. Which is scary bad

Thankfully he has a better attitude though. I'm not sure what Zeller's realistic upside is. People were saying LaMarcus Aldridge and Chris Bosh after the draft, but I don't see it. He doesn't seem to have the offensive awareness or scoring instincts they have. Zeller just seems like a player whose game was tailormade for college, but not the pros.

I'll give you a comparison that will freak out fatlever - Brad Lohaus

and I'm being half-serious here.

[JDR720]

Im thinking he will be similar to what Luis Scola was in his prime, 16ppg and 9reb will be good

[LamarMatic7]

Im thinking he will be similar to what Luis Scola was in his prime, 16ppg and 9reb will be good

are you talking about his stats or his game?

because I don't see Zeller playing like Scola at all.

[thruthefire]

I mentioned Greg Monroe as a comparison earlier, in the sense that both were expected to contribute right away. Monroe has a nice inside-out game, too.

Here's his rookie season game log: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... elog/2011/

Through his first 32 games, he averaged 4.8 points on 43.5% shooting and 5.0 rebounds in 19.5 minutes. He averaged 12.5 points (59% shooting) and 9.2 rebounds in 33.3 minutes the rest of the way.

Cody's riding a good four-game stretch now in which he looks much more comfortable on the court. Hopefully, he can do something similar to Monroe.

[JDR720]

Im thinking he will be similar to what Luis Scola was in his prime, 16ppg and 9reb will be good

are you talking about his stats or his game?

because I don't see Zeller playing like Scola at all.

stats

[Liver_Pooty]

I mentioned Greg Monroe as a comparison earlier, in the sense that both were expected to contribute right away. Monroe has a nice inside-out game, too.

Here's his rookie season game log: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... elog/2011/

Through his first 32 games, he averaged 4.8 points on 43.5% shooting and 5.0 rebounds in 19.5 minutes. He averaged 12.5 points (59% shooting) and 9.2 rebounds in 33.3 minutes the rest of the way.

Cody's riding a good four-game stretch now in which he looks much more comfortable on the court. Hopefully, he can do something similar to Monroe.

Good post. Hes way more athletic than Monroe, but if he even comes close to being as refined as Monroe in the post than we have an all-star on our hands, and in a pathetic draft like this last one thats rather amazing.