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im fine with lamb/frank walking/traded... neither will be worth their next contract.
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I don't see how we can give Kemba the deal he will deserve AND extend Lamb. I love Lamb, but with Monk waiting in the cut for his time to shine and Kemba clearly in the long-term plans of this franchise, I think Lamb presents the most value for a return.
Let him start in Borrego's system at the 2, tear up the first part of the season, and then trade him at the deadline for a nice asset. I think Lamb becomes a luxury that we can't afford.
I also think MKG and/or Marv have to get moved too.
Maybe BOB could shed some light, but is there a way that we can keep Kemba & Lamb long-term, while unloading MKG, Marv, Frank and still having long-term cap flexibility? Mozgov becomes a problem for 2019 as well.
Let him start in Borrego's system at the 2, tear up the first part of the season, and then trade him at the deadline for a nice asset. I think Lamb becomes a luxury that we can't afford.
I also think MKG and/or Marv have to get moved too.
Maybe BOB could shed some light, but is there a way that we can keep Kemba & Lamb long-term, while unloading MKG, Marv, Frank and still having long-term cap flexibility? Mozgov becomes a problem for 2019 as well.
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It’s a shame to lose Lamb because of MKG, Frank, etc. it’s like the bad gifts that keeps on giving us more bad gifts.
Lamb does have the value of an expiring contract and is a good player to possibly be packaged with some of our overpaid mediocre players.
By the way, I would never support paying Lamb more than what he makes right now. Lamb is at his peak and his peak is worth $7m/yr.
Lamb does have the value of an expiring contract and is a good player to possibly be packaged with some of our overpaid mediocre players.
By the way, I would never support paying Lamb more than what he makes right now. Lamb is at his peak and his peak is worth $7m/yr.
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Money might be tight enough around the league where Lamb or Kaminsky only gets a 2 year 10 million dollar deal, in which case I think he's worth it. We really need to move Marvin somehow.
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I dont think either of them will get big deals, and Frank is restricted. Probably 14m per for Lamb and 12 for Frank.
Our problem is we need to trade the old guys on long deals, so we can keep the young guys.
Our problem is we need to trade the old guys on long deals, so we can keep the young guys.
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What about Marvin and MKG to Cleveland for Hill and Clarkson?
Cut Hill (1m guaranteed), LeBron gets some help and we get a backup PG.
Cut Hill (1m guaranteed), LeBron gets some help and we get a backup PG.
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I'm hoping we can move Marvin + MKG for an expiring(s) without sacrificingcing a 1st rounder. I would be willing to package 2nd rounders with them though so we can keep Lamb + Frank.
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I don't think Kupchak can manuever in one move. It would have to be a series of shrewd moves. He's in such a tough position.
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I'm wondering what the Jazz are going to do next month. I figure they're going to try to work a sign and trade of Favors for Jabai Parker. But even then they could still use another long wing to spread the floor, play when Jabari inevitably misses time, and defend Kevin Durant. Marvin played there before as well, so I'm confident they've discussed trading for him.They have no need for Alec Burks on their roster, so a swap makes sense.
They also don't have much need for Exum with Mitchell and Rubio firmly entrenched on their team. There's a strong case for a trade here. We need backcourt depth, and they need longer players that can stretch the floor. Mitch should approach them and ask how much a Marvin and Frank for Burks, Jerebko, and Exum swap interests them. We'd have to commit to playing 3 wings in our starting lineup, but that is what we need to do anyway.
They also don't have much need for Exum with Mitchell and Rubio firmly entrenched on their team. There's a strong case for a trade here. We need backcourt depth, and they need longer players that can stretch the floor. Mitch should approach them and ask how much a Marvin and Frank for Burks, Jerebko, and Exum swap interests them. We'd have to commit to playing 3 wings in our starting lineup, but that is what we need to do anyway.
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When LeBron leaves, the Cavs will move Love. We can give them Frank as a rebuild piece. Since they drafted a rebuild PG in Sexton, perhaps Clarkson will be made available. How about we give them MKG to slide into SF as a rebuild piece.
MKG + Frank for Clarkson
MKG + Frank for Clarkson
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Kemba - Clarkson - Graham
Lamb - Monk - Clarkson
Batum - Bridges - Bacon
Bridges - Marvin
Zeller - Hernangomez - Mozgov
Lamb - Monk - Clarkson
Batum - Bridges - Bacon
Bridges - Marvin
Zeller - Hernangomez - Mozgov
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LofJ wrote:I'm wondering what the Jazz are going to do next month. I figure they're going to try to work a sign and trade of Favors for Jabai Parker. But even then they could still use another long wing to spread the floor, play when Jabari inevitably misses time, and defend Kevin Durant. Marvin played there before as well, so I'm confident they've discussed trading for him.They have no need for Alec Burks on their roster, so a swap makes sense.
They also don't have much need for Exum with Mitchell and Rubio firmly entrenched on their team. There's a strong case for a trade here. We need backcourt depth, and they need longer players that can stretch the floor. Mitch should approach them and ask how much a Marvin and Frank for Burks, Jerebko, and Exum swap interests them. We'd have to commit to playing 3 wings in our starting lineup, but that is what we need to do anyway.
Id ask for Grayson Allen. Rookie contracts are the thing these days.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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Bridges looks more like a SF than a PF
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MasterIchiro wrote:When LeBron leaves, the Cavs will move Love. We can give them Frank as a rebuild piece. Since they drafted a rebuild PG in Sexton, perhaps Clarkson will be made available. How about we give them MKG to slide into SF as a rebuild piece.
MKG + Frank for Clarkson
I'm a bit reluctant to trade Frank. I really want to see what he can do with a new coach, particularly if he ends up starting.
Also is Clarkson really worth having? He didn't look great in the playoffs. His numbers are OK, but not really special for the contract he's on. I wouldn't mind having him here, but IDK.
My picks:
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
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Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:When LeBron leaves, the Cavs will move Love. We can give them Frank as a rebuild piece. Since they drafted a rebuild PG in Sexton, perhaps Clarkson will be made available. How about we give them MKG to slide into SF as a rebuild piece.
MKG + Frank for Clarkson
I'm a bit reluctant to trade Frank. I really want to see what he can do with a new coach, particularly if he ends up starting.
Also is Clarkson really worth having? He didn't look great in the playoffs. His numbers are OK, but not really special for the contract he's on. I wouldn't mind having him here, but IDK.
My rationale for adding Clarkson is he's better than any backup PG we can add with the MLE.
My rationale for sending out MKG as a matching salary is related to Miles needing minutes at MKG's position, combined with Batum returning to that same position. This opens SG minutes for Lamb and Monk.
We will have to move MKG or Marvin. If we can't we'll lose Lamb or Frank or both. So since we might not be able to move MKG, I will send out Frank as a casualty with him. Miles can take minutes at PF. If I sent out Lamb, Miles wouldn't really benefit.
I'm committing to Lamb here over Frank and trying to land best backup point guard available, assuming Sexton makes him available.
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Clarkson is 1) ass and 2) not a PG. If he is a point guard, then so is Jeremy lamb 
investigate Adam Silver
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Hornets
Ross expiring
Hawks
MKG
Magic
Schroder
2 second rounders via Charlotte
Ross expiring
Hawks
MKG
Magic
Schroder
2 second rounders via Charlotte
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Monk
Batum
MKG
Lamb
Bacon
Miles
Kupchak has talked a lot about how both Bacon and Monk are going to be in the rotation this year. I think at least one wing trade is coming.
Batum
MKG
Lamb
Bacon
Miles
Kupchak has talked a lot about how both Bacon and Monk are going to be in the rotation this year. I think at least one wing trade is coming.
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Ideally I think we need Lamb starting if we want to win now. Monk should get backup minutes at SG because he's our top prospect.
Nic is anchored at SF and we need to develop our 2nd top prospect, Miles Bridges.
At PF we have to start thinking about the future as well. Kaminsky should start and Miles should see backup minutes there.
MKG + Marvin are the odd men out. Hornets need to attach picks to them and get back expirings. They are more useful to teams than Mozgov thus easier to move. And maybe Kupchak has made progress while shopping around. This explains taking on 1 extra year on the Mozgov deal. It might not matter if he's confident he can move other contracts.
Nic is anchored at SF and we need to develop our 2nd top prospect, Miles Bridges.
At PF we have to start thinking about the future as well. Kaminsky should start and Miles should see backup minutes there.
MKG + Marvin are the odd men out. Hornets need to attach picks to them and get back expirings. They are more useful to teams than Mozgov thus easier to move. And maybe Kupchak has made progress while shopping around. This explains taking on 1 extra year on the Mozgov deal. It might not matter if he's confident he can move other contracts.
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I think more likely that Miles starts than Lamb.
I would trade either Lamb, Marv, or MKG for the best PG we can.
I would trade either Lamb, Marv, or MKG for the best PG we can.








