Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[BeesWax]

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guessing its a salary dump, that team with Smith,Gay and Cousins lol

Bassman's offseason wishlist:
1. Noah Vonleh
2. Lance Stephenson
3. Jason Thompson

Could the stars be aligning AGAIN?

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Not really sure Thompson brings anything to the team. He would clog the PF position and is not of enough value to send out Zeller. If we are making a move for a PF they need to be a clear upgrade over what we have and I don't think Thompson is.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm not that much of a fan of Jason Thompson. If you ever seen him in person or on TV, he look the part, he's tall, he's athletic, he's agile, he can shoot, but at the end of it all, he just lack substance. I wouldn't be opposed to a trade that bring him in, because I can vouch that he's a good guy since I've met & ran ball with him in the Danny Rumph Classic Basketball Tournament last year, but hopefully there's other options

[LofJ]

Thompson is a decent player, but he can't stretch the floor at all. He doesn't really have a place on our roster.

[MasterIchiro]

I would be willing to take on 3 years of Thompson if the Pistons took 2 years of Gerald Henderson and the Kings attached McLemore to Thompson

Hornets

Jason Thompson - PF
Ben McLemore - SG

Pistons

Gerald Henderson - SG/SF
Jason Terry - SG

Kings

Josh Smith - PF

[mrknowitall215]

Ben McLemore

[Sonrisen]

Rather have McCallum than McLemore.

I would be willing to take on 3 years of Thompson if the Pistons took 2 years of Gerald Henderson and the Kings attached McLemore to Thompson

Hornets

Jason Thompson - PF
Ben McLemore - SG

Pistons

Gerald Henderson - SG/SF
Jason Terry - SG

Kings

Josh Smith - PF

[Sonrisen]

Ben McLemore

Yup, there's a reason they used their lottery pick on Stauskas a year after they drafted Ben.

[LofJ]

I was just thinking of a trade between us, Detroit, and Sacramento myself. Here's what I came up with:

Detroit

Gets Jason Thompson and Derrick Williams

Sacamento

Gets Gerald Henderson and Josh Smith

Charlotte

Gets Jason Terry

Terry is washed up, but he and Neal together would give us $8.7 million in expiring contracts to trade at the deadline.

[Joest2003]

Summer league means NOTHING mkw couldn't throw the ball in the ocean last year in the summer league but then went on to win ROY. It would be crazy to think of trading hariston. I think he should be behind lance and let him develops as the season goes on and his defense will make up for his growing pains. We know what we were going to get out of Hendo and Neal and its nothing great. Definitely nothing worth slowing down pjs development thats for sure

[Eoghan]

I'd trade Zeller for McLemore straight up. They both suck but McLemore has the potential to not suck.

[yosemiteben]

I'd trade Zeller for McLemore straight up. They both suck but McLemore has the potential to not suck.

After the all star break, Cody averaged 7.7 ppg on 51% FG% and 4.8 rpg in just 18.3 mpg. He got to the free throw line just as much as Al and had only around 1 less FTA than Kemba, despite playing half the minutes.

Saying he sucked is just absurd.

[HornetShocker]

Timberwolves get: MKG, Zeller and Henderson and 2 first rounders (2015 and 2016).

Charlotte gets Kevin Love.



I know laughable.

PG - Kemba\Roberts
SG - Stephenson\PJ
SF - Marvin\Taylor
PF - Love\Vonleh
C - Big Al\Biz

[Eoghan]

I'd trade Zeller for McLemore straight up. They both suck but McLemore has the potential to not suck.

After the all star break, Cody averaged 7.7 ppg on 51% FG% and 4.8 rpg in just 18.3 mpg. He got to the free throw line just as much as Al and had only around 1 less FTA than Kemba, despite playing half the minutes.

Saying he sucked is just absurd.

If his head isn't touching the ceiling, it's pretty close. That is not good production for a seven footer drafted fourth overall.

[yosemiteben]

I'd trade Zeller for McLemore straight up. They both suck but McLemore has the potential to not suck.

After the all star break, Cody averaged 7.7 ppg on 51% FG% and 4.8 rpg in just 18.3 mpg. He got to the free throw line just as much as Al and had only around 1 less FTA than Kemba, despite playing half the minutes.

Saying he sucked is just absurd.

If his head isn't touching the ceiling, it's pretty close. That is not good production for a seven footer drafted fourth overall.

You didn't say he sucked relative to his draft status (which is still debatable when you look at that draft class), you're implying that he just generally is not a good basketball player, which has been your shtick but is obviously false. Zeller had the far superior stat line, and given his dramatic improvement post All Star I don't know why you think he is anywhere close to his ceiling. He's just 21.

What reason do you have to assume that Zeller is at or near his potential?

[Eoghan]

After the all star break, Cody averaged 7.7 ppg on 51% FG% and 4.8 rpg in just 18.3 mpg. He got to the free throw line just as much as Al and had only around 1 less FTA than Kemba, despite playing half the minutes.

Saying he sucked is just absurd.

If his head isn't touching the ceiling, it's pretty close. That is not good production for a seven footer drafted fourth overall.

You didn't say he sucked relative to his draft status (which is still debatable when you look at that draft class), you're implying that he just generally is not a good basketball player, which has been your shtick but is obviously false. Zeller had the far superior stat line, and given his dramatic improvement post All Star I don't know why you think he is anywhere close to his ceiling. He's just 21.

What reason do you have to assume that Zeller is at or near his potential?

He's not improving in any skill area. His post All-Star break "renaissance" was just him abandoning his broken jumper and throwing himself at the rim every opportunity. His form looks like the same, inconsistent mechanics of last season, his handles look the same (not good for a stretch 4) and he looks even slower and less athletic than last year. He's just an effort guy, he doesn't come close to being elite in any facet of the game.

[fatlever]

I'm not that much of a fan of Jason Thompson. If you ever seen him in person or on TV, he look the part, he's tall, he's athletic, he's agile, he can shoot, but at the end of it all, he just lack substance. I wouldn't be opposed to a trade that bring him in, because I can vouch that he's a good guy since I've met & ran ball with him in the Danny Rumph Classic Basketball Tournament last year, but hopefully there's other options

him... are you any of these people?

Novar Gadson
Mike Ringgold
Tony Hickman
Kokak McCoy
Nurideen Lindsey

http://rumphclassic.com/august-1st-box-score/

[yosemiteben]

If his head isn't touching the ceiling, it's pretty close. That is not good production for a seven footer drafted fourth overall.

You didn't say he sucked relative to his draft status (which is still debatable when you look at that draft class), you're implying that he just generally is not a good basketball player, which has been your shtick but is obviously false. Zeller had the far superior stat line, and given his dramatic improvement post All Star I don't know why you think he is anywhere close to his ceiling. He's just 21.

What reason do you have to assume that Zeller is at or near his potential?

He's not improving in any skill area. His post All-Star break "renaissance" was just him abandoning his broken jumper and throwing himself at the rim every opportunity. His form looks like the same, inconsistent mechanics of last season, his handles look the same (not good for a stretch 4) and he looks even slower and less athletic than last year. He's just an effort guy, he doesn't come close to being elite in any facet of the game.

Let's let him get a full off season in before we talk about his lack of development.

[MasterIchiro]

I would be pretty surprised if we helped the Pistons move Josh Smith. He's the main thing preventing them from locking up Greg Monroe (They just tried to move Monroe in a sign + trade to the Blazers because of J. Smith). If Monroe becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2015 and Al Jefferson opts out or gets injured, Monroe becomes a target for the vacancy at C. Al will be 30 and looking for 4 years. We have to look beyond short term with Al.

So really this is about the Kings trying to add Josh Smith and dumping Jason Thompson's contract to a third team without giving up anything significant on their roster. It's also about the Pistons trying to lock up Greg Monroe.

Essentially the Kings would be trading McLemore for Josh Smith.

The Pistons would be taking our junk for Greg Monroe.

The Hornets will be taking on Thompson's contract, eliminating Monroe as an option and adding McLemore.

It would be nice to hedge Lance's spot over 3 years with Hairston + McLemore.

I also like Cody for Barnes down the road if Vonleh progresses. That profiles well as a deadline move.

PG - Kemba Walker
SG - Lance Stephenson
SF - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
PF - Marvin Williams
C - Al Jefferson

2nd unit

PG - Brian Roberts
SG - Ben McLemore/PJ Hairston
SF - Harrison Barnes
PF - Noah Vonleh/Jason Thompson
C - Bismack Biyombo/Jason Thompson

[BeesWax]

After the all star break, Cody averaged 7.7 ppg on 51% FG% and 4.8 rpg in just 18.3 mpg. He got to the free throw line just as much as Al and had only around 1 less FTA than Kemba, despite playing half the minutes.

Saying he sucked is just absurd.

If his head isn't touching the ceiling, it's pretty close. That is not good production for a seven footer drafted fourth overall.

You didn't say he sucked relative to his draft status (which is still debatable when you look at that draft class), you're implying that he just generally is not a good basketball player, which has been your shtick but is obviously false. Zeller had the far superior stat line, and given his dramatic improvement post All Star I don't know why you think he is anywhere close to his ceiling. He's just 21.

What reason do you have to assume that Zeller is at or near his potential?

I don't see what he said as being obviously false. I think Zeller can still grow and needs to badly to be effective as an NBA 4. But to say he shot 51% from the field post all star break is very misleading. Considering he did this by attacking the basket and abandoning his jump shot means he shot below league average. The league average at the rim was in the low 60% range so even there he was below average. I do think he improved but even with it he was below average for his position and you add in his height and athletic ability and it gets really sad. So for last year he did suck even when he played better he still sucked but I do think he can get to serviceable spot starter or solid reserve.

[MasterIchiro]

Here's another option that involves doing nothing for the remainder of the offseason. For example, rather than acquire Jeff Green and spend a 1st on him, I'd want to just wait for Afflalo to opt out of his deal at the end of the season. They need to have enough cap space for him because we really need shooting. So Henderson + Neal needs to go and the existing cap space maybe should be used on a 1-year player like Boozer so it can be reinvested in an extension for Kemba Walker. I'm now thinking Kemba is #2 option at best so his salary should settle in between 9 million (Lance option #3 at worst) and 13.5 (Al option #1).

2015

PG - Kemba Walker
SG - Lance Stephenson/Arron Afflalo
SF - Michael Kidd-Glichrist/Arron Afflalo
PF - Cody Zeller/Noah Vonleh
C - Al Jefferson or Greg Monroe/Bismack Biyombo