2013 NBA draft prospects chatter

SWedd523 · Post #1121 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:50 am

Just a crazy game. I feel bad for whoever missed that show.

I feel even worse for those who watched the Cats then missed this one!

TheKingofSting · Post #1122 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:52 am

Wow, what a game!

Liver_Pooty · Post #1123 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:26 pm

If we draft Noel I would love to get Oladipo with our second pick. He looked great today.

hotrod · Post #1124 » by **hotrod** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:11 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Marcus Smart final stats from todays win over Texas

23 points (6 of 12) 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 5 steals, 2 blocks.

He was 3 of 6 from behind arc and 8 of 10 from charity stripe.

he is looking like the complete player we could use from the two guard position.

Not only that, the guy is the leader on his team as a freshman. I think he is the best 2 out there.

Badd_Intentions · Post #1125 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:52 pm

Watched the Kansas and ucla games yesterday. Didn't take an awful lot from either. Ucla blew out wash st, Bazz mainly shot 3s didn't do anything out of the norm other than a couple of assists.

Ben played ok, but again played purely within the system. He did make a couple of nice dishes to Withey on the drive, but just not seeing the offensive creativity in his game that I'd like to. Not saying it's all his fault, I'm sure he's doing what coach wants but I'd like to see him clear out and go 1 on 1. frachila mentioned he had no left hand as of now, but 19 yr olds usually only have 1 hand.

Ben is however more controlled than Bazz. Bazz took some bad shots after he started the game hot from 3.

Eoghan · Post #1126 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:53 am

Noel is at the top of my board now. Ben and Bazz need to be in complete beast mode in work outs before I'll consider them at this point. I'm tired of seeing Ben play so passive and Bazz playing on an island in UCLA's crappy system.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1127 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:03 am

BrotherDave wrote:Noel is at the top of my board now. Ben and Bazz need to be in complete beast mode in work outs before I'll consider them at this point. I'm tired of seeing Ben play so passive and Bazz playing on an island in UCLA's crappy system.

Noel is a definite #1 on my board. He needs to add about 25 pounds of muscle though which will take a couple years.

catch20two · Post #1128 » by **catch20two** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:03 am

Anthony Bennett was looking real beastly last night in UNLV's romp of #15 New Mexico.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1129 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:07 am

catch20two wrote:Anthony Bennett was looking real beastly last night in UNLV's romp of #15 New Mexico.

I like Bennett, but I wouldn't take him 1. If we get screwed and end up picking 4 id take him.

catch20two · Post #1130 » by **catch20two** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:15 am

Shabazz Muhammad, Nerlens Noel, Anthony Bennett, Ben McLemore, and Marcus Smart are all currently in my top 5. I'll likely stay undecided on all of them until March Madness.

MasterIchiro · Post #1131 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:22 am

Kemba Walker was instrumental in Jeremy Lamb's improved confidence and his subsequent rise to elite prospect status. When Walker left, Lamb became passive and soft. If Ben McLemore has issues with taking charge and can't make the best use of his talent and athleticism, Kemba will be there for him. If Kemba has a shooter he can rely on he will have a field day with opposing defenders. I like how McLemore is humble and I'm weary of Shabazz being a prima donna. Regardless of who comes here, Kemba will set the tone. The kid learned to play ball on the streets of NYC. He's a tough leader and he loves the game. I think he'd bring out the best in Ben McLemore and even Bazz. Heck I think he could even harness the monster that is DeMarcus Cousins.

TheKingofSting · Post #1132 » by **TheKingofSting** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:34 am

Mason Plumlee with another double double to carry us to victory.

SWedd523 · Post #1133 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:46 am

Lamb didn't become passive and soft when Kemba left

catch20two · Post #1134 » by **catch20two** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:04 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Kemba Walker was instrumental in Jeremy Lamb's improved confidence and his subsequent rise to elite prospect status. When Walker left, Lamb became passive and soft.

Jeremy Lamb became almost everything but passive after Kemba left UConn. I understand that you're trying to make a point but your statement is flawed.

MasterIchiro · Post #1135 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:20 pm

No actually he did go soft. I'm a diehard UConn fan born and raised in CT. His shooting percentage dropped from Fresh to Soph and his 3pt % dropped significantly from like 37% to 33%. His assist total also dropped despite increased playing time. It's all on basketball-reference.com not to mention I saw it with my own eyes.

When Kemba left, we saw zero improvement in Lamb when he was expected to carry the team. He was more tentative without Kemba. And with increased hesitation he took more bad shots. He did not look like the same player despite the extra year of experience.

Some players don't lead well but they make great sidekicks. Say what you want about Kemba's run in the Big East Tourney and the NCAA Tournament but Lamb was absolutely lethal for us.

Like I said, if Kemba has a sharp shooter to play off (he currently doesn't) he'll have a field day with opposing defenses. And since McLemore is the best shooter in this draft hands down, he fits with our franchise player perfectly.

MasterIchiro · Post #1136 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:46 pm

It's amazing how front offices calculate these things.

The POR pick is currently 14. The best it can be is 13 but we'd need the Lakers to get their act together.

DET is currently pick 10 and the stars are aligned for it to be pick 9 or 10 in 2014. The best it can be is pick 9. Toronto should vault over DET next year.

Also, does POR also owe us a 2014 pick?

catch20two · Post #1137 » by **catch20two** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:04 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:No actually he did go soft. I'm a diehard UConn fan born and raised in CT. His shooting percentage dropped from Fresh to Soph and his 3pt % dropped significantly from like 37% to 33%. His assist total also dropped despite increased playing time. It's all on basketball-reference.com not to mention I saw it with my own eyes.

When Kemba left, we saw zero improvement in Lamb when he was expected to carry the team. He was more tentative without Kemba. And with increased hesitation he took more bad shots. He did not look like the same player despite the extra year of experience.

Some players don't lead well but they make great sidekicks. Say what you want about Kemba's run in the Big East Tourney and the NCAA Tournament but Lamb was absolutely lethal for us.

Like I said, if Kemba has a sharp shooter to play off (he currently doesn't) he'll have a field day with opposing defenses. And since McLemore is the best shooter in this draft hands down, he fits with our franchise player perfectly.

I would argue against many points that were attempted to be made in this post but I'll just save myself the volley.

SWedd523 · Post #1138 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:43 pm

catch20two wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:No actually he did go soft. I'm a diehard UConn fan born and raised in CT. His shooting percentage dropped from Fresh to Soph and his 3pt % dropped significantly from like 37% to 33%. His assist total also dropped despite increased playing time. It's all on basketball-reference.com not to mention I saw it with my own eyes.

When Kemba left, we saw zero improvement in Lamb when he was expected to carry the team. He was more tentative without Kemba. And with increased hesitation he took more bad shots. He did not look like the same player despite the extra year of experience.

Some players don't lead well but they make great sidekicks. Say what you want about Kemba's run in the Big East Tourney and the NCAA Tournament but Lamb was absolutely lethal for us.

Like I said, if Kemba has a sharp shooter to play off (he currently doesn't) he'll have a field day with opposing defenses. And since McLemore is the best shooter in this draft hands down, he fits with our franchise player perfectly.

I would argue against many points that were attempted to be made in this post but I'll just save myself the volley.

What this guy said

Liver_Pooty · Post #1139 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:20 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:It's amazing how front offices calculate these things.

The POR pick is currently 14. The best it can be is 13 but we'd need the Lakers to get their act together.

DET is currently pick 10 and the stars are aligned for it to be pick 9 or 10 in 2014. The best it can be is pick 9. Toronto should vault over DET next year.

Also, does POR also owe us a 2014 pick?

Nah they owed us two first rounders and we used one year before last to trade up.for Biyombo.

Eoghan · Post #1140 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:17 pm

Apparently, Shabazz had/has tourette's and modeled his game after Kobe.

http://www.nbadraft.net/shabazz-muhammad-interview

Also another interesting interview: http://espn.go.com/high-school/boys-basketball/story/_/id/7745065/shabazz-muhammad-does-takes-win-court