Fake Trade Thread #3

[DY_nasty]

[O'Connor] League sources say the Hornets are among teams to express interest in Evan Fournier.

i wonder how fournier looks at center

[MPM]

[O'Connor] League sources say the Hornets are among teams to express interest in Evan Fournier.

I hope our interest is in how to best keep him away from our team. Never been a fan.

[Braggins]

Why would they be interested in Fournier? This team doesn't need another shooter/scorer who can't defend. I don't like hearing this.

[yosemiteben]

Why would they be interested in Fournier? This team doesn't need another shooter/scorer who can't defend. I don't like hearing this.

Only thing that makes sense to me is us liking having more scoring options and wanting to bring him off the bench. He's expiring so he won't be expensive and we aren't sending a starter for him.

Maybe if they don't want to resign him and we don't want to resign Cody, we trade bird rights for players we would target in FA?

Cody and Graham for Fournier and Bamba makes sense to me I guess if we don't want to keep Cody, think Graham will cost too much, and we like Monk as a PG?

Doesn't seem like a realistic option to me and I don't really see why we'd by interested.

[yosemiteben]

Sneaking suspicion: something around Rozier + Cody for Vuc + Fournier.

[stinger14]

Sneaking suspicion: something around Rozier + Cody for Vuc + Fournier.

Or Hayward/Zeller for Vucevic/Fournier

Melo
Rozier
Fournier
PJ
Vuc

[yosemiteben]

Sneaking suspicion: something around Rozier + Cody for Vuc + Fournier.

Or Hayward/Zeller for Vucevic/Fournier

Melo
Rozier
Fournier
PJ
Vuc

It's an interesting thought experiment - who is more movable, Rozier or Hayward?

On the one hand, I just can't imagine moving Hayward when we treated it like this windfall when we signed him. We talked about him like he was a necessary add to stabilize Ball.

On the other hand, I also think it's clear that Rozier has carved out a significant leadership role, and he's a lot younger and better fits our core timeline. Hayward did sign our offer when Cliff was the coach, so there's at least some history there. Maybe he wouldn't be upset about us moving him?

[stinger14]

Sneaking suspicion: something around Rozier + Cody for Vuc + Fournier.

Or Hayward/Zeller for Vucevic/Fournier

Melo
Rozier
Fournier
PJ
Vuc

It's an interesting thought experiment - who is more movable, Rozier or Hayward?

On the one hand, I just can't imagine moving Hayward when we treated it like this windfall when we signed him. We talked about him like he was a necessary add to stabilize Ball.

On the other hand, I also think it's clear that Rozier has carved out a significant leadership role, and he's a lot younger and better fits our core timeline. Hayward did sign our offer when Cliff was the coach, so there's at least some history there. Maybe he wouldn't be upset about us moving him?

Yes, and I would imagine that LaMelo is ahead of the schedule we imagined, which could make Hayward more expandable?

We know Clifford wanted Hayward which ultimately led to Batum. Hayward slides Isaac down to PF, allowing them to trade A. Gordon

[amcoolio]

Only reason I would move Hayward is I get the feeling that he wanted his own team and LaMelo almost instantly took it over in half a season. Obviously we would choose LaMelo so if Hayward wanted to go somewhere to be the primary guy like Indiana or Orlando I'm all for trading him if the return is decent. I still have a sinking feeling Gordon will not be worth the last two years of his contract.

[JMAC3]

Cody and Graham for Fournier and Bamba makes sense to me

I think this is only deal that makes sense that has been brought up with Magic that would include Fournier. I doubt we are really even viewing Fournier as a longterm guy but he adds shooting and depth to a potential playoff team and we don’t take any long term money back.

For Magic, Graham is far more established then Bamba so we are probably wanting the extra value with Fournier, while Magic really just care about adding a starting point guard.

No way we are trading Hayward unless it’s for a young superstar type. Rozier is unlikely to be traded in my mind either as he is young and plays well with LaMelo.

Really like the workings of that initial deal though because it’s both a win now/build for future deal.

[bravor]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9k9f4z9

Not that i am a major fan of Wiseman, but since gs is interested in Oladipo, Hornets could be a facilitator at the cost of swallowing Wiggins's contract. Which ends in 2023, knowing Ball could help increasing his stats/value to turn into a positive asset when he gets closer to his last year (s).

Ths cost is heavy in terms of flexibility for the next two years (baring some trade for Wiggins or Hayward), but it gives Ball a decent target to increase his freedom as a creator.
Wiggins could be a decent tank commander for 2022, even though it would help balance the scoring (which is relying a lot on guards). I added Kurucs because he would be a nice defensive wing on a cheap contract.

Hornets would only lose an expiring (Cody, knowing that would be needed for the warriors if they plan to keep Dipo), Rozier (who is 26 and probably has the best trade value right now), and Miles (who is fine as a rookie, but you cant seriously keep him as a pro even on a fair contract).

If someone has a better idea to get Wiseman, feel free.

[Rays Pompadour]

Interesting trade idea. Charlotte liked Wiseman (as did I), but I think they got the better player in Ball.

The issue for me is Wiggins, who has, in my opinion, a lack of the kind of higher BBIQ Kupchak is looking for and JB prefers. I look at the Spurs as Borrego's model and that organization prioritizes cerebral players. I think the Hornets are hoping to avoid knuckleheads like Wiggins. Again, a fine player, but not at 30-per.

Also, the focus of Charlotte's offense will be built around Ball, so I don't see Wiggin's numbers exploding. Plus, there's still Hayward. It'd be neat to get Wiseman somehow, but the cost in this deal, for me, is too high in terms of fit and cap flexibility.

And for what it's worth, I don't have a better trade idea to get Wiseman.

[CuseMayne]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9k9f4z9

Not that i am a major fan of Wiseman, but since gs is interested in Oladipo, Hornets could be a facilitator at the cost of swallowing Wiggins's contract. Which ends in 2023, knowing Ball could help increasing his stats/value to turn into a positive asset when he gets closer to his last year (s).

Ths cost is heavy in terms of flexibility for the next two years (baring some trade for Wiggins or Hayward), but it gives Ball a decent target to increase his freedom as a creator.
Wiggins could be a decent tank commander for 2022, even though it would help balance the scoring (which is relying a lot on guards). I added Kurucs because he would be a nice defensive wing on a cheap contract.

Hornets would only lose an expiring (Cody, knowing that would be needed for the warriors if they plan to keep Dipo), Rozier (who is 26 and probably has the best trade value right now), and Miles (who is fine as a rookie, but you cant seriously keep him as a pro even on a fair contract).

If someone has a better idea to get Wiseman, feel free.

Not a big fan of this...and jw why would we be looking for a tank commander for 2022? I think at this point, we need to be improving our roster, which includes a playoff push this season to give our young guys some much needed playoff experience. I don't think anyone's trying to tank next year...Hayward's contract is locked in and isn't getting any younger, we clearly have our star to build around, and now is the time to start building around him. If we deliberately take a step back next year, I don't think Melo will take a liking to that.

[JDR720]

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[DY_nasty]

do these people actually follow basketball or do they just treat it like reality tv?

[BleedGreen1989]

do these people actually follow basketball or do they just treat it like reality tv?

They’re actually a great fit together.

[stinger14]

do these people actually follow basketball or do they just treat it like reality tv?

They’re actually a great fit together.

I agree, especially in the Borrego offense. I mentioned it before, a trade involving Rozier for Lonzo/Jaxson Hayes makes a lot of sense

[DY_nasty]

do these people actually follow basketball or do they just treat it like reality tv?

They’re actually a great fit together.

? how

dude can't run anything and isn't that great of a shooter - especially the times he's actively running away from the rim

he's a big reason why the pels are terrible late game

[JMAC3]

? how

dude can't run anything and isn't that great of a shooter - especially the times he's actively running away from the rim

he's a big reason why the pels are terrible late game

Lonzo is having a career year this year even after getting off to a slow start. Best shooting year by far at 43/39/77 with big strides made at free throw line and showing his new three point shooting form is not a fluke. Not sure I love idea of trading Terry for him, but I think he is an underrated commodity amongst fans in general. Seems like a lot of front offices like the possibility of him filling their point guard vacancies around the league.

[DY_nasty]

if lonzo was so good then he wouldn't be in literally every trade rumor involving nola lol