Rhymes with Nintendo - The Gerald Henderson Thread

[fatlever]

stupid magic really screwed up this summer when they didnt trade afflalo for bledsoe. that was dumb. can you imagine the fear a bledsoe/oladipo backcourt would put in teams in a few years?

[mrknowitall215]

stupid magic really screwed up this summer when they didnt trade afflalo for bledsoe. that was dumb. can you imagine the fear a bledsoe/oladipo backcourt would put in teams in a few years?

I thought that deal was a done deal upon hearing about it. It made both teams better for now & into the future. I don't know why but it always seem like the most logical & sensible trades in the NBA never happen, and instead GMs prefer to try to outsmart conventionality

[fatlever]

dragic and afflalo would have been great together.

[MasterIchiro]

I thought the Clippers nixed that Afflalo deal?

[mrknowitall215]

I thought the Clippers nixed that Afflalo deal?

From what I heard, the Clippers only backed out of the deal because Orlando's asking price for Afflalo was higher than just a straight up Bledsoe swap, and that's when the Magic sold themselves on the idea that they could translate Oladipo into a 'Russell Westbrook prototype' point guard & find a trade suitor for Jameer Nelson, which in hindsight both failed to transpire

[MasterIchiro]

I thought the Clippers nixed that Afflalo deal?

From what I heard, the Clippers only backed out of the deal because Orlando's asking price for Afflalo was higher than just a straight up Bledsoe swap, and that's when the Magic sold themselves on the idea that they could translate Oladipo into a point guard & find a trade suitor for Jameer Nelson, which in hindsight both failed to transpire

I thought it was because the Clippers thought they could get more for Bledsoe and had salary cap issues with Afflalo.

[mrknowitall215]

I thought the Clippers nixed that Afflalo deal?

From what I heard, the Clippers only backed out of the deal because Orlando's asking price for Afflalo was higher than just a straight up Bledsoe swap, and that's when the Magic sold themselves on the idea that they could translate Oladipo into a point guard & find a trade suitor for Jameer Nelson, which in hindsight both failed to transpire

I thought it was because the Clippers thought they could get more for Bledsoe and had salary cap issues with Afflalo.

J.J. Redick & Jared Dudley combined make more than Afflalo with as many years on their respective contracts, so the salary cap didn't really play a issue into the matter. Orlando's asking price for Afflalo was just too high for the Clippers so they nixed the discussions and decided to take on Redick & Dudley in a separate deal, therefore you are right that "the Clippers nixed that Afflalo deal", but they had their reasoning since Hennigan is doing a disservice to Orlando's future by overvaluing the players on the Magic roster that aren't a part of their future until their trade value has diminished

[MasterIchiro]

From what I heard, the Clippers only backed out of the deal because Orlando's asking price for Afflalo was higher than just a straight up Bledsoe swap, and that's when the Magic sold themselves on the idea that they could translate Oladipo into a point guard & find a trade suitor for Jameer Nelson, which in hindsight both failed to transpire

I thought it was because the Clippers thought they could get more for Bledsoe and had salary cap issues with Afflalo.

J.J. Redick & Jared Dudley combined make more than Afflalo with as many years on their respective contracts, so the salary cap didn't really play a issue into the matter. Orlando's asking price for Afflalo was just too high for the Clippers so they nixed the discussions and decided to take on Redick & Dudley in a separate deal, therefore you are right that "the Clippers nixed that Afflalo deal", but they had their reasoning since Hennigan is doing a disservice to Orlando's future by overvaluing the players on the Magic roster that aren't a part of their future until their trade value has diminished

Well he's probably still in fantasy land over Afflalo so scratch that idea.

[catch20two]

Rob Hennigan is going to be the next Chris Grant if he don't make a move. That team has gathered all of that young talent but they still are the pits and holding onto veterans that are only losing value by the day like Afflalo and Big Baby.

[fatlever]

i figure the core young players for the magic have about 6 months left of the franchise making zero attempts to get better before they start to mutiny. you cant go 3 straight years of not trying to get better and expect to have any players left buying into the team. not to mention the fan erosion that will be hard to replace, even with a wiggins type on board.

[mrknowitall215]

Maybe, maybe not, but I feel like I could make a case for Henderson being overpaid

[fatlever]

Maybe, maybe not, but I feel like I could make a case for Henderson being overpaid

i think he got paid based on his production last spring and the remaining hope of him adding a 3pt shot. now that its clear that last spring was a fluke and the 3pt shot is never coming, i'd agree he is overpaid. however, its not a bad contract.

[mrknowitall215]

Maybe, maybe not, but I feel like I could make a case for Henderson being overpaid

i think he got paid based on his production last spring and the remaining hope of him adding a 3pt shot. now that its clear that last spring was a fluke and the 3pt shot is never coming, i'd agree he is overpaid. however, its not a bad contract.

I did my research and couldn't build a strong enough case, but I still feel like his contract is based on raw numbers he produced upon inefficient shooting on a depleted roster that presented him ample opportunity. I'm also under the belief that Charlotte could bring in a stopgap that can shoot 40% from 3-point land for no more than $3 million that could put up at least 12 points on 43 percent shooting if given 33 minutes per game. I would honestly rather see Ramon Sessions play shooting guard than Henderson

[MasterIchiro]

I think Hendo's seniority has gotten in the way of how they should have handled and should be handling him in business transactions. If they bring in a SG now, it adds a weird vibe. He talks like a lifer but walks like a temporary fix.

[fatlever]

you're preaching to the choir MrKiA.

i'd move hendo for just about anyone who can make 3s and not get torched on defense.

[thruthefire]

Maybe, maybe not, but I feel like I could make a case for Henderson being overpaid

i think he got paid based on his production last spring and the remaining hope of him adding a 3pt shot. now that its clear that last spring was a fluke and the 3pt shot is never coming, i'd agree he is overpaid. however, its not a bad contract.

I did my research and couldn't build a strong enough case, but I still feel like his contract is based on raw numbers he produced upon inefficient shooting on a depleted roster that presented him ample opportunity.

Pretty much describing Turner. Perhaps more so with Turner being significantly more inefficient than Hendo over their careers.

[Eoghan]

you're preaching to the choir MrKiA.

i'd move hendo for just about anyone who can make 3s and not get torched on defense.

Yep. I think Hendo got that contract by beating MJ on the golf course.

[mrknowitall215]

i think he got paid based on his production last spring and the remaining hope of him adding a 3pt shot. now that its clear that last spring was a fluke and the 3pt shot is never coming, i'd agree he is overpaid. however, its not a bad contract.

I did my research and couldn't build a strong enough case, but I still feel like his contract is based on raw numbers he produced upon inefficient shooting on a depleted roster that presented him ample opportunity.

Pretty much describing Turner. Perhaps more so with Turner being significantly more inefficient than Hendo over their careers.

I've agreed on numerous occasions that they are somewhat similar, and have already stated that I wouldn't advise for Charlotte to trade for Turner unless they are able to deal Henderson within that same barter or a separate one before the deadline

[lmcguir5]

Is it worth it to trade Henderson for Turner though? Even though some feel like Henderson is overpaid, he is under team control for what I feel like is a decent deal. We could trade Turner and lose him shortly thereafter. Yes, he is an RFA after this contract runs out, but he could sign the one year deal and leave for greener pastures. It scares me to trade a potential top 10 pick for a guy who could leave a year and a half after acquisition

[MasterIchiro]

Is it worth it to trade Henderson for Turner though? Even though some feel like Henderson is overpaid, he is under team control for what I feel like is a decent deal. We could trade Turner and lose him shortly thereafter. Yes, he is an RFA after this contract runs out, but he could sign the one year deal and leave for greener pastures. It scares me to trade a potential top 10 pick for a guy who could leave a year and a half after acquisition

What? The Blazers pick is supposedly on the table not the Pistons pick.