Fake Trade Thread #3

[JMAC3]

Biggest Needs
Center
Bench Wing who can shoot or defend

Biggest Trade Assets
Devonte Graham
First Round Pick
Zeller Contract for matching
Malik Monk
Miles Bridges

Teams that need a starting point guard- (Targets in Graham deal)
Chicago- (Wendell Carter Jr)
Knicks- (Robinson)
Clippers- (Zubac)
Pelicans- (Ball, Hart, Hayes)
Magic- (Vuc, Fournier, Ross, Gordon, Bamba)

Teams that are going to be sellers- (Targets)
Pistons- (Ellington)
Magic- (Vuc, Fournier, Ross, Gordon, Bamba)
Cavs- (Cedi, McGee, Prince, Nance)
Rockets- (House)
T-Wolves- (Layman, Culver)
Thunder- (Ehh don't love anyone's fit on Hornets)
Kings?- (Bagley)
Pelicans- (Ball, Hart, Hayes)

Highlighted Magic and Pelicans because they are likely to be sellers at deadline and both teams may have a fair amount of interest in filling point guard spot with Graham. Obviously there are other teams that we could trade with, but these are most likely candidates based on the trade being mutually beneficial in my mind.

[JMAC3]

if lonzo was so good then he wouldn't be in literally every trade rumor involving nola lol

Not sure Nola knows what they are doing... they traded Holiday who was a perfect fit with their young core. They are benching a top 10 pick for a journey man center. I am not claiming Lonzo is a savior for any team, but I think he is a starting caliber player in this league and right now it seems like you might be able to get a very serviceable NBA player for 50c on the dollar.

[DY_nasty]

if lonzo was so good then he wouldn't be in literally every trade rumor involving nola lol

Not sure Nola knows what they are doing... they traded Holiday who was a perfect fit with their young core. They are benching a top 10 pick for a journey man center. I am not claiming Lonzo is a savior for any team, but I think he is a starting caliber player in this league and right now it seems like you might be able to get a very serviceable NBA player for 50c on the dollar.

they traded holiday because they got a horde of picks for him.

like.... their timeline with him wasn't going to work with ingram/zion anyways. the thing with lonzo is that if they were really in love with the guy, then they would've extended him already. they're not trying to deal with a bidding war for him. and currently they're featuring him heavy because NAW/Kira have already low key shown they can do the job at an adequate enough level to warrant and investment as well.

they're trying to get *anything* for him, bledsoe, and reddick really

[JMAC3]

if lonzo was so good then he wouldn't be in literally every trade rumor involving nola lol

Not sure Nola knows what they are doing... they traded Holiday who was a perfect fit with their young core. They are benching a top 10 pick for a journey man center. I am not claiming Lonzo is a savior for any team, but I think he is a starting caliber player in this league and right now it seems like you might be able to get a very serviceable NBA player for 50c on the dollar.

they traded holiday because they got a horde of picks for him.

like.... their timeline with him wasn't going to work with ingram/zion anyways. the thing with lonzo is that if they were really in love with the guy, then they would've extended him already. they're not trying to deal with a bidding war for him. and currently they're featuring him heavy because NAW/Kira have already low key shown they can do the job at an adequate enough level to warrant and investment as well.

they're trying to get *anything* for him, bledsoe, and reddick really

I get what you are saying with Lonzo, but nobody is claiming he is a superstar in the making. It is the same thing with Atlanta and Collins, they are scared he will get a big offer sheet so they might deal him for assets or a player under team control for a longer time period. Doesn't mean that Collins or Lonzo are horrible players. If we see Lonzo is being undervalued why not make an offer? He is young and would be an asset moving forward.

When all is said and done they got Adams, Bledsoe (bad contract), two late firsts and 2 unlikely pick swaps. Its a good haul, but chances are none of those guys are huge impact players for them anytime soon. Maybe they get lucky and Milwaukee falls to pieces, but that is like a 7% chance now they have Giannis signed long-term.

I for one don't really believe in Pelicans ownership/front office. They were gifted a massive trade package for Davis, won lottery with Zion and are still nothing to write home about.

[Diop]

do these people actually follow basketball or do they just treat it like reality tv?

They’re actually a great fit together.

I think Rozier is being badly under rated. Elite catch n shoot scorer who is a valuable leader for the team.

Yet his name gets thrown around so we can let brothers play together.

[Diop]

I’m guessing Fournier is looked at as a replacement for the twins off the bench.

[bravor]

do these people actually follow basketball or do they just treat it like reality tv?

They’re actually a great fit together.

I think Rozier is being badly under rated. Elite catch n shoot scorer who is a valuable leader for the team.

Yet his name gets thrown around so we can let brothers play together.

As good as he is, he is locked for just another year and his contract value is probably at its highest

Even though i do share the fact that one Ball is enough, especially considering the sample to evaluate Lonzo (its not like players in contract year cannot harm this franchise).

But no matter what, this is the year you use some of your best assets to get good picks/prospects to build on. This team needs its 'Lamelo' of the frontcourt (through trades or through draft, and by 'Lamelo' i mean really impacting center or pf/c). Then you can build on something realistic.

[Diop]

They’re actually a great fit together.

I think Rozier is being badly under rated. Elite catch n shoot scorer who is a valuable leader for the team.

Yet his name gets thrown around so we can let brothers play together.

As good as he is, he is locked for just another year and his contract value is probably at its highest

Even though i do share the fact that one Ball is enough, especially considering the sample to evaluate Lonzo (its not like players in contract year cannot harm this franchise).

But no matter what, this is the year you use some of your best assets to get good picks/prospects to build on. This team needs its 'Lamelo' of the frontcourt (through trades or through draft, and by 'Lamelo' i mean really impacting center or pf/c). Then you can build on something realistic.

I’m not saying Rozier is untouchable, but I wouldn’t trade him for lonzo ball either.

[Snidely FC]

Ive seen several reports that NYK are aggressively pursuing trade for Terry Rozier. Would CHA trade him to a direct competitor for a playoff spot? If so would they include Mitch Robinson, who they have been winning without? Would they do, say, Robinson + Ntilikina for Rozier? Would CHA?

[BeesWax]

Ive seen several reports that NYK are aggressively pursuing trade for Terry Rozier. Would CHA trade him to a direct competitor for a playoff spot? If so would they include Mitch Robinson, who they have been winning without? Would they do, say, Robinson + Ntilikina for Rozier? Would CHA?

I would pass. I don't like Robinson enough to trade Terry for him as the only piece coming back. I really don't like any of the pieces I think they would trade. If I am moving Terry I want a good quality fit at center that is young and has some control left or a quality SG to pair with Melo. I like Barrett but there is no way they move him I don't think. I mean Robinson shoots sub 50% from FT right now. I just am not sure he is an upgrade at C we want.

[OrlMagic05]

Magic fan comes in peace.. Curious to know if Hornet fans would consider 21 unprotected 1st and fillers for Vuc?

[JMAC3]

Magic fan comes in peace.. Curious to know if Hornet fans would consider 21 unprotected 1st and fillers for Vuc?

No. He is good, but that is what you give up for a surefire all-star in his prime. Vuc is 30 and a borderline all-star.

[JMAC3]

Ive seen several reports that NYK are aggressively pursuing trade for Terry Rozier. Would CHA trade him to a direct competitor for a playoff spot? If so would they include Mitch Robinson, who they have been winning without? Would they do, say, Robinson + Ntilikina for Rozier? Would CHA?

This trade is real bad for us. Also the money is nowhere close.

[OrlMagic05]

Magic fan comes in peace.. Curious to know if Hornet fans would consider 21 unprotected 1st and fillers for Vuc?

No. He is good, but that is what you give up for a surefire all-star in his prime. Vuc is 30 and a borderline all-star.

How about top 5 protected.

[JediMasterRevan]

Would Charlotte be interested in Daniel Theis?
Knows how to play with Terry and Hayward. Great friends with Hayward. Personally, I think he would be a great fit at Center for you.

If not Theis does Charlotte have interest in Al Horford?

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Magic fan comes in peace.. Curious to know if Hornet fans would consider 21 unprotected 1st and fillers for Vuc?

Personally I wouldn't consider 1 first, let alone 21.

[Braggins]

Would Charlotte be interested in Daniel Theis?
Knows how to play with Terry and Hayward. Great friends with Hayward. Personally, I think he would be a great fit at Center for you.

If not Theis does Charlotte have interest in Al Horford?

I like Theis and think hed be helpful here, but our franchise player is 19 years old, so I don't think they should be making any win now moves for older players unless they are getting a good deal, so I don't know if I'd give up as much as Boston might want for him (no idea how you guys value him).

[JediMasterRevan]

Would Charlotte be interested in Daniel Theis?
Knows how to play with Terry and Hayward. Great friends with Hayward. Personally, I think he would be a great fit at Center for you.

If not Theis does Charlotte have interest in Al Horford?

I like Theis and think hed be helpful here, but our franchise player is 19 years old, so I don't think they should be making any win now moves for older players unless they are getting a good deal, so I don't know if I'd give up as much as Boston might want for him (no idea how you guys value him).

I was thinking Bridges?

Ball/Graham
Rozier/Monk
Hayward/Martin
Washington/McDaniels
Theis/Zeller


Or Maybe theis and Semi Ojeleye for Bridges and carey Jr?

Ball/Graham
Rozier/Monk
Hayward/McDaniels
Washington/Semi
Theis/Zeller

[Braggins]

Would Charlotte be interested in Daniel Theis?
Knows how to play with Terry and Hayward. Great friends with Hayward. Personally, I think he would be a great fit at Center for you.

If not Theis does Charlotte have interest in Al Horford?

I like Theis and think hed be helpful here, but our franchise player is 19 years old, so I don't think they should be making any win now moves for older players unless they are getting a good deal, so I don't know if I'd give up as much as Boston might want for him (no idea how you guys value him).

I was thinking Bridges?

Ball/Graham
Rozier/Monk
Hayward/Martin
Washington/McDaniels
Theis/Zeller


Or Maybe theis and Semi Ojeleye for Bridges and carey Jr?

Ball/Graham
Rozier/Monk
Hayward/McDaniels
Washington/Semi
Theis/Zeller

I'd probably rather keep Bridges and look for a cheaper stop gap option at center in the buyout market or in a trade for a 2nd round pick or two.

[Soul Rebel]

Magic fan comes in peace.. Curious to know if Hornet fans would consider 21 unprotected 1st and fillers for Vuc?

No. He is good, but that is what you give up for a surefire all-star in his prime. Vuc is 30 and a borderline all-star.

How about top 5 protected.

What do you think ORL would ask for Bamba + Fournier?