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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1181 » by yosemiteben » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:07 pm

Interesting that they haven't announced what they're doing yet, guess they're going to take it down to the wire
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1182 » by KembaWalker » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:32 pm

Braggins wrote:How is this roster not going to have a bottom 5 defense?

PG: LaMelo ~ Mann ~ Dinwiddie
SG: Green ~ Sexton ~ NSJr
SF: Miller ~ Kon ~ McNeeley
PF: Miles ~ Grant (IR) ~ Salaun
C: Diabate ~ Plumlee ~ Kalkbrenner


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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1183 » by fatlever » Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:23 pm

3 more cuts to make
- jeffries
- nsj
- connaughton
- Baugh Will probably get cut and replaced by a different two way player.

PG: LaMelo ~ Mann ~ Dinwiddie - Simpson (2way) - Baugh (2way)
SG: Green ~ Sexton ~ Sion - Connaughton - NSJr
SF: Miller ~ Kon ~ McNeeley - Jeffries - Peterson (2way)
PF: Miles ~ Grant (IR) ~ Salaun
C: Diabate ~ Plumlee ~ Kalkbrenner
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1184 » by fatlever » Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:36 pm

in hindsight...
- consolidate the 2 2nd rd picks into 1, w/ future 2nd pick. take kalk
- trade nsj for anything non-guaranteed and a weak future 2nd
- buyout of micic for 2 mil - dont do pat trade
- sign any other backup center other than plum
- keep okogie
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1185 » by yosemiteben » Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:53 pm

Why not do the Pat trade regardless?
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1186 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:58 pm

Well Pat will be bought out, leaving roughly 2.2 owed of his 9.4 guaranteed. So the owners purchased 2 second-round distant contracts for roughly 7.2 million.

8 rookie scale contracts banked + 12 second round contracts on reserve.

That looks to me like a spending freeze.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1187 » by yosemiteben » Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:12 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Well Pat will be bought out, leaving roughly 2.2 owed of his 9.4 guaranteed. So the owners purchased 2 second-round distant contracts for roughly 7.2 million.

8 rookie scale contracts banked + 12 second round contracts on reserve.

That looks to me like a spending freeze.

There is an interesting financial situation forming, just doesn't seem like you're focusing on the spending that's coming. Brandon is extension eligible after this year. Miles is an UFA the following year.

If our FO wants them both here long term, our salary is going to massively increase organically. Very possible that they are both extended next offseason.

A spending freeze would require walking away from those realities.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1188 » by Bassman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:49 am

I think to pay for upcoming extensions they hope to trade Miles by the deadline for an expiring pile of crap. I truly think Peterson is convinced his pet project Tiddy will be ready to start at PF next season.
I continue to wait...and hope...for the return to Hornet's glory.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1189 » by Diop » Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:53 am

i think they have shopped Miles constantly but found nothing suitable.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1190 » by wilson115 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:08 am

Or it might be something else.

Read on Twitter
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1191 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:11 am

Diop wrote:i think they have shopped Miles constantly but found nothing suitable.


Hard to find something more suitable than 33% FG we saw from Salaün?

Hope not.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1192 » by SWedd523 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:12 am

wilson115 wrote:Or it might be something else.

Read on Twitter

Maybe next year
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1193 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:14 am

Bassman wrote:I think to pay for upcoming extensions they hope to trade Miles by the deadline for an expiring pile of crap. I truly think Peterson is convinced his pet project Tiddy will be ready to start at PF next season.


Greensboro, I take it? Start at PF for the Swarm, I hope?
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1194 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:16 am

He's not lying lol

We are a irrelevant franchise. We haven't won consistently in our entire franchise history. We had a short run of success in the 90's, but that didn't last long.

For the past 20+ years what have we actually done?

Start winning and players will come here. PG said it himself he could see himself living in Charlotte. The problem is playing for Charlotte we suck!
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1195 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:21 am

Do you guys ever get tired of making the same post over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1196 » by Diop » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:40 am

wilson115 wrote:Or it might be something else.

Read on Twitter

thats the challenge for the new owners, overcoming that.

we already knew it could be tough to sign players here.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1197 » by JDR720 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:19 am

One could argue that his career is already over. Probably the worst contract in the league.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1198 » by Diop » Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:41 am

**** it, lets trade for him out of spite now.

Miles, Green and Connaughton or however you spell his dumb last name.
if he wants to call it, he has to hand the money back.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1199 » by EmpireFalls » Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:55 am

wilson115 wrote:Or it might be something else.

Read on Twitter

I saw a lot of consternation on this quote and listening to the full video I don’t think he’s wrong at all.

Bob Johnson and later MJ (the worst non-criminal owner of the 21st century) made this franchise into a clown show of epic proportions. The new PE guys have somehow lowered the talent level on the roster from even that complete car crash, and just won 40 combined games in two years, drafting Tidjane Salaun and Kon Knueppel for their troubles.

We are still easily a bottom 3 franchise in the NBA and will be until we prove we can actually play serious winning basketball and build a decent team.

I need our guys to listen to this stuff and get angry and really try to prove people wrong. Right now PG’s spot on here, however much the truth hurts.
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Re: Offseason 2025 Thread 

Post#1200 » by SWedd523 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:07 am

Walt Cronkite wrote:Do you guys ever get tired of making the same post over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over?

What i do get tired of is the constant battered woman syndrome sunshine pumping despite reality clearly demanding the opposite.

Stop forcing people to defend their negativity and browbeating them with "wElL mAyBe yOu ShOulD sToP wAtcHiNg". There is no reason to justify the negative sentiment. Simply look at the state of the franchise (consistently) over the last two decades.

The solution is simple. Better results. Instead of being blindly optimistic, maybe more public negativity would help enlighten the hedge fund finance bros that the team is more than some long term money making asset in their portfolio.

So many of us here are so used to stank ass results day in and day out that they've seemingly come to appreciate the stability of it.
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