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Post#121 » by countryboi » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:54 pm

_tijo_ wrote:Seriously? I'm over the moon for this pick! First of all, MKG is not safe. Safe would have been the more accomplished Robinson, who would be good, but doesn't have the upside as some others. MKG is upside, already has the motor, is 18, but can blossom in his shot. We already know he is an awesome finisher, and with Kemba running the break, he needs people who can go to the rack and finish. I just can't wait to see Kemba runnin the break, with MKG cutting to the basket, Ben Gordon parked on the wing for the 3, and Biz trailing the play. It's gonna be awesome.

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no is not going to be awesome MKG does fix any of our problems his biggest weakest is the teams biggest weakest and we are lacking in talent to surround him with....with thomas robinson or barnes or beal we could win maybe 15-20 games....but this team as currently setup is just as awful as last year and that sucks
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Re: Welcome To Charlotte Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#122 » by hhvo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:10 pm

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_tijo_ wrote:Seriously? I'm over the moon for this pick! First of all, MKG is not safe. Safe would have been the more accomplished Robinson, who would be good, but doesn't have the upside as some others. MKG is upside, already has the motor, is 18, but can blossom in his shot. We already know he is an awesome finisher, and with Kemba running the break, he needs people who can go to the rack and finish. I just can't wait to see Kemba runnin the break, with MKG cutting to the basket, Ben Gordon parked on the wing for the 3, and Biz trailing the play. It's gonna be awesome.

Haters man... out fans are full of haters.


no is not going to be awesome MKG does fix any of our problems his biggest weakest is the teams biggest weakest and we are lacking in talent to surround him with....with thomas robinson or barnes or beal we could win maybe 15-20 games....but this team as currently setup is just as awful as last year and that sucks


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Re: Welcome To Charlotte Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#123 » by _tijo_ » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:16 pm

countryboi wrote:no is not going to be awesome MKG does fix any of our problems his biggest weakest is the teams biggest weakest and we are lacking in talent to surround him with....with thomas robinson or barnes or beal we could win maybe 15-20 games....but this team as currently setup is just as awful as last year and that sucks

I would argue that being not that great this year is part of the plan... and no that doesn't suck. Face it, there was no MJ, no Durant, no Lebron at the 2 pick. Even if we trade down, we are getting two lesser pieces. The 24 pick this year was Jared Cunningham. Would you trade for a lesser player in order to get him? Don't think so. Cho identified MKG as the guy, didn't want to lose him if we traded down to 4. Cleveland would have taken Beal, Washington would have taken MKG, leaving us stuck with Harrison Barnes or Robinson... Cho saw enough of a disparity in talent that he wasn't willing to do that. So instead, we just took our Pippen, will suck again this year, and next year hopefully get our Jordan. Or the year after. This is a patient slow build, and I'm fine with that. Let's face it, being a Bobcats fan is not like being a Celtics or a Lakers fan... a few years of build will be required for a team like this. But when it works, the payoff will be awesome. And I think MKG is going to pay off.
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Re: Welcome To Charlotte Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

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Post#125 » by BigSlam » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:25 pm

SWedd523 wrote:I really want to transition him to the SG spot. I think he could be a nasty off guard playing beside Kemba

I'm thinking the same thing. I like him much better as a SG than I do a SF.

That said and if that is the case, we REALLY need a SF with handles, range and passing (to help Kemba initiate and set up the offense).
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Post#126 » by BigSlam » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:27 pm

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That's an awesome pic - and I really enjoyed hearing MKG's Mum talk after he was picked.

Solid lady. Lot's of pride and class.

I can see where her boy gets it from.
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Post#127 » by hhvo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:30 pm

MKG is the conseus BPA. You could make an agruement for Beal, depending on the situation. If the FO feel the same way and believe they can develop him, I am all for it. I think with his work ethics and hardwork he can improve greatly.

I praise the FO for sticking with their strategy for picking the BPA and not base on need, cuz at this point every position need upgrading. As you can see, the organization is becoming a high character, positive culture team, minus Tyrus. Kemba, hendo, MKG, Mullen, bismack... Those guys will work hard for you.
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Post#128 » by SWedd523 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:33 pm

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SWedd523 wrote:I really want to transition him to the SG spot. I think he could be a nasty off guard playing beside Kemba

I'm thinking the same thing. I like him much better as a SG than I do a SF.

That said and if that is the case, we REALLY need a SF with handles, range and passing (to help Kemba initiate and set up the offense).

That's why I like the pick more than (what seems like) most.

If we get a SF, he can easily slide over to the SG for the long haul and play next to Kemba. He's certainly quick and athletic enough to guard the best guard and allow Kemba to take the easier mark. And at 6'7 and a half, the backcourt size issues are instantly erased.

If we get a SG, he can stay in his role as the swingman who does it all in that Crash mold. Let him harass the best wing on the other team and hit the boards, play the passing lanes, and block shots from the weak side. Plenty of size (6'7.5" with a 7'0" wingspan) to fit in there as a slasher.

Oh, and he's going to be the youngest player in the league with plenty of time to develop. And is going to fit in with the team's new mentality with Kemba/Hendo/Bismack perfectly
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Post#129 » by hhvo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:37 pm

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SWedd523 wrote:Image

That's an awesome pic - and I really enjoyed hearing MKG's Mum talk after he was picked.

Solid lady. Lot's of pride and class.

I can see where her boy gets it from.


Yeah, I concur with that. Saw her interview and thought she was well spoken. Looks like he had a good up bringing.
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Re: Welcome To Charlotte Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#130 » by Bassman » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:41 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:I really want to transition him to the SG spot. I think he could be a nasty off guard playing beside Kemba

I'm thinking the same thing. I like him much better as a SG than I do a SF.

That said and if that is the case, we REALLY need a SF with handles, range and passing (to help Kemba initiate and set up the offense).

That's why I like the pick more than (what seems like) most.

If we get a SF, he can easily slide over to the SG for the long haul and play next to Kemba. He's certainly quick and athletic enough to guard the best guard and allow Kemba to take the easier mark. And at 6'7 and a half, the backcourt size issues are instantly erased.

If we get a SG, he can stay in his role as the swingman who does it all in that Crash mold. Let him harass the best wing on the other team and hit the boards, play the passing lanes, and block shots from the weak side. Plenty of size (6'7.5" with a 7'0" wingspan) to fit in there as a slasher.

Oh, and he's going to be the youngest player in the league with plenty of time to develop. And is going to fit in with the team's new mentality with Kemba/Hendo/Bismack perfectly


To be a shooting guard, hyphen would need to be able to shoot, and have a handle to dribble drive to the hoop. Putting him at the 2 would expose his weaknesses further.
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Re: Welcome To Charlotte Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 

Post#131 » by hhvo » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:41 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:I really want to transition him to the SG spot. I think he could be a nasty off guard playing beside Kemba

I'm thinking the same thing. I like him much better as a SG than I do a SF.

That said and if that is the case, we REALLY need a SF with handles, range and passing (to help Kemba initiate and set up the offense).

That's why I like the pick more than (what seems like) most.

If we get a SF, he can easily slide over to the SG for the long haul and play next to Kemba. He's certainly quick and athletic enough to guard the best guard and allow Kemba to take the easier mark. And at 6'7 and a half, the backcourt size issues are instantly erased.

If we get a SG, he can stay in his role as the swingman who does it all in that Crash mold. Let him harass the best wing on the other team and hit the boards, play the passing lanes, and block shots from the weak side. Plenty of size (6'7.5" with a 7'0" wingspan) to fit in there as a slasher.

Oh, and he's going to be the youngest player in the league with plenty of time to develop. And is going to fit in with the team's new mentality with Kemba/Hendo/Bismack perfectly


Sounds like Shabazz would be the perfect situation. A sg/sf who can handle the ball and shoot.
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Post#132 » by SWedd523 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:44 pm

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SWedd523 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:I'm thinking the same thing. I like him much better as a SG than I do a SF.

That said and if that is the case, we REALLY need a SF with handles, range and passing (to help Kemba initiate and set up the offense).

That's why I like the pick more than (what seems like) most.

If we get a SF, he can easily slide over to the SG for the long haul and play next to Kemba. He's certainly quick and athletic enough to guard the best guard and allow Kemba to take the easier mark. And at 6'7 and a half, the backcourt size issues are instantly erased.

If we get a SG, he can stay in his role as the swingman who does it all in that Crash mold. Let him harass the best wing on the other team and hit the boards, play the passing lanes, and block shots from the weak side. Plenty of size (6'7.5" with a 7'0" wingspan) to fit in there as a slasher.

Oh, and he's going to be the youngest player in the league with plenty of time to develop. And is going to fit in with the team's new mentality with Kemba/Hendo/Bismack perfectly


To be a shooting guard, hyphen would need to be able to shoot, and have a handle to dribble drive to the hoop. Putting him at the 2 would expose his weaknesses further.


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Post#133 » by BigSlam » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:51 pm

Bassman wrote:To be a shooting guard, hyphen would need to be able to shoot, and have a handle to dribble drive to the hoop. Putting him at the 2 would expose his weaknesses further.

That is such an antiquated mindset.

So I guess a point guard the player would need to be able to point?
A small forward needs to be small?
A power forward needs to be powerful?
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Post#134 » by SWedd523 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:55 pm

What if we get a taller small forward who can do all of those things? Would he still be exposed as a SG?

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Post#135 » by countryboi » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:22 pm

hhvo wrote:
countryboi wrote:
_tijo_ wrote:Seriously? I'm over the moon for this pick! First of all, MKG is not safe. Safe would have been the more accomplished Robinson, who would be good, but doesn't have the upside as some others. MKG is upside, already has the motor, is 18, but can blossom in his shot. We already know he is an awesome finisher, and with Kemba running the break, he needs people who can go to the rack and finish. I just can't wait to see Kemba runnin the break, with MKG cutting to the basket, Ben Gordon parked on the wing for the 3, and Biz trailing the play. It's gonna be awesome.

Haters man... out fans are full of haters.


no is not going to be awesome MKG does fix any of our problems his biggest weakest is the teams biggest weakest and we are lacking in talent to surround him with....with thomas robinson or barnes or beal we could win maybe 15-20 games....but this team as currently setup is just as awful as last year and that sucks


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We're working on being contenders, not middle of the pack. It will take time and patience.


thats not a plan its a train wreak and its not fair to the fans or anyone that has to watch us not even try to compete
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Post#136 » by ball teacher » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:28 pm

BigSlam wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:I really want to transition him to the SG spot. I think he could be a nasty off guard playing beside Kemba

I'm thinking the same thing. I like him much better as a SG than I do a SF.


This is why I compared MKG to D. Wade, They both had the same type of role while in college. Wade was a rebounding, shot blocking, slasher that finished plays strong around the rim, he seemed to be more of a SF or a power guard while in college. MKG does the exact same thing and they both even have the same weakness, the outside jumper. I don't even know if MKG's jumper is really broken either, it just looks ugly.
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Post#137 » by Badd_Intentions » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:29 pm

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Post#139 » by Bassman » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:24 pm

" Sad Bass INstrumental"

Hey Sweed, that was clever...made me laugh..thanks! :lol:

It was kinda the color of my mood, especially last night. And ha ha's regarding the overtly literal interpretation of player designations Slam. However, my point is moving hyphen to the 2 will force him to handle the ball further out within the typical flow of the offense, and require greater range and accuracy on his jump shot; both of those factors work against him. His size could be a bonus but I think he would still struggle with quick smaller 2's defensively. For stretches during games, of course that work work (at least defensively).

But hey, it's time for the honeymoon to begin, so I will quit raining on your marital bed. Go consumate your relationship with hyphen and enjoy the glow. Especially for Kemba2Hendo, Tijo and others who were gaga over this guy...I really am happy for you that you got the player you wanted. I truly hope he turns into the 2nd coming of Durant, or whatever the hell Cho & Higgins saw in him that made them scared to trade down with Cleveland.

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Post#140 » by Walt Cronkite » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:27 pm

Someone slipped me some Bobcat's electric blue koolaid (it's delicious) and now I love this pick.

I was initially down on The Kidd because of the Crash comparisons, but they omitted something that I think is worth noting. Obviously Crash and MKG are physically similar and they're both hyper competitive, elite-level athletes with WIP jumpers. They're both hard workers with excellent character. I get that it's hard to get excited about Crash at #2 and sf seems to be one of the easier holes to plug in the league, but I think we're forgetting what Gerald meant to our young franchise. Gerald made us proud to be Bobcat fans despite having to suffer through seasons of sloppy, boring hoops brought to us by inept management thanks to their poorly constructed teams. It was a treat to watch him compete because he left it all on the floor. He tried more than he probably should've and we became respectable because of it. He was impossible not to love! He was ours! The champion of the Charlotte Bobcats!

We did him dirty with the talent we threw around him. I think Kidd-Gilchrist presents an opportunity to right those wrongs. Like Crash, his dunks will dazzle and his hustle will be infectious, but this time we have the infrastructure around to not squander those talents. Cho, Dunlap, Bizzy, Hendo and Kemba are hard workers and we're going to continue stocking driven talents around him. Like Kidd-Gilchrist, Crash wasn't a franchise player like LeBron or Durant, but he was the essential member of our core, the defining player of our style, the heart of the franchise. This kid has an endearing quality about him and I'm really excited about this franchise for the first time in a while, maybe since the playoff run.

Welcome to Charlotte Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

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