The Gordon Hayward Thread

chabber · Post #121 » by **chabber** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:51 pm

Still wanna throw Zeller into a S&T now?

mrknowitall215 · Post #122 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:52 pm

chabber wrote:Still wanna throw Zeller into a S&T now?

Zeller, maybe, but I'd hold onto him unless the return is significant. Vonleh, not

mrknowitall215 · Post #123 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:54 pm

What if there's a way Charlotte could get Gordon Hayward & Derrick Favors in return for a sign-and-trade package that only involve us parting ways with Cody Zeller, Gerald Henderson, and a future 1st?

LofJ · Post #124 » by **LofJ** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:55 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:What if there's a way Charlotte could get Gordon Hayward & Derrick Favors in return for a sign-and-trade package that only involve us parting ways with Cody Zeller, Gerald Henderson, and a future 1st?

lol, yeah right. They would laugh us off the phone.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #125 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:57 pm

chabber wrote:Still wanna throw Zeller into a S&T now?

Maybe. Humphries is still out there. :lol:

mrknowitall215 · Post #126 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:58 pm

LofJ wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:What if there's a way Charlotte could get Gordon Hayward & Derrick Favors in return for a sign-and-trade package that only involve us parting ways with Cody Zeller, Gerald Henderson, and a future 1st?

lol, yeah right. They would laugh us off the phone.

I have a feeling that the Jazz may want to dump Favors' contract to go full tank for next season since the frontcourt depth in the 2015 NBA Draft class may be 'off the charts' good, and they're not really expected to be anything close to contenders in the Western Conference this upcoming season. There were rumors that they were shopping Favors on draft day

DY_nasty · Post #127 » by **DY_nasty** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 7:59 pm

LofJ wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:What if there's a way Charlotte could get Gordon Hayward & Derrick Favors in return for a sign-and-trade package that only involve us parting ways with Cody Zeller, Gerald Henderson, and a future 1st?

lol, yeah right. They would laugh us off the phone.

Hayward might be worth 10+ mil, but he isn't worth all these sign and trades at all.

LofJ · Post #128 » by **LofJ** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:02 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
LofJ wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:What if there's a way Charlotte could get Gordon Hayward & Derrick Favors in return for a sign-and-trade package that only involve us parting ways with Cody Zeller, Gerald Henderson, and a future 1st?

lol, yeah right. They would laugh us off the phone.

I have a feeling that the Jazz may want to dump Favors' contract to go full tank for next season since the frontcourt depth in the 2015 NBA Draft class may be 'off the charts' good, and they're not really expected to be anything close to contenders in the Western Conference this upcoming season. There were rumors that they were shopping Favors on draft day

They were shopping Favors to move up to take Parker, I doubt they're just going to dump him to get even worse. They were already bad enough for a top 5 pick last year.

mrknowitall215 · Post #129 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:06 pm

LofJ wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
LofJ wrote:
lol, yeah right. They would laugh us off the phone.

I have a feeling that the Jazz may want to dump Favors' contract to go full tank for next season since the frontcourt depth in the 2015 NBA Draft class may be 'off the charts' good, and they're not really expected to be anything close to contenders in the Western Conference this upcoming season. There were rumors that they were shopping Favors on draft day

They were shopping Favors to move up to take Parker, I doubt they're just going to dump him to get even worse. They were already bad enough for a top 5 pick last year.

It's not likely, but it's something to keep a keen eye on as a possibility. If you go through the history of sign-and-trade deals, they're usually very lopsided where the losing team is willing to take on expiring contracts and future assets like draft picks

LofJ · Post #130 » by **LofJ** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:09 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
LofJ wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
I have a feeling that the Jazz may want to dump Favors' contract to go full tank for next season since the frontcourt depth in the 2015 NBA Draft class may be 'off the charts' good, and they're not really expected to be anything close to contenders in the Western Conference this upcoming season. There were rumors that they were shopping Favors on draft day

They were shopping Favors to move up to take Parker, I doubt they're just going to dump him to get even worse. They were already bad enough for a top 5 pick last year.

It's not likely, but it's something to keep a keen eye on as a possibility. If you go through the history of sign-and-trade deals, they're usually very lopsided where the losing team is willing to take on expiring contracts and future assets like draft picks

I'd be pretty damn excited if that happened, so we'll see.

Post #131 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:13 pm

Favors is only 22, was a former #3 pick and is one of the most promising young prospects in the league - I don't believe they are going to trade him so they can tank and maybe land another big prospect in a year.

BleedTeal · Post #132 » by **BleedTeal** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:21 pm

How old is Hayward again?

Post #133 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:23 pm

BleedTeal wrote:How old is Hayward again?

24

MasterIchiro · Post #134 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 8:40 pm

chabber wrote:Still wanna throw Zeller into a S&T now?

Those proposals seem dubious now.

Post #135 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:06 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/scott_fowler/status/486254071368519682[/tweet]

We are trying the "Houston Melo" tactic to get Gordon

MasterIchiro · Post #136 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:08 pm

What a sight!!!

mrknowitall215 · Post #137 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:16 pm

Which one of you is Cho on here? I really want to know...

Dancingpanda · Post #138 » by **Dancingpanda** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:18 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Which one of you is Cho on here? I really want to know...

Is this a trick question "Mr Know It All"?

mrknowitall215 · Post #139 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:23 pm

Dancingpanda wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Which one of you is Cho on here? I really want to know...

Is this a trick question "Mr Know It All"?

No. It's not a trick or rhetorical question. I just find it surprising that we had a sudden impulse for Hayward over Stephenson probably a few days before it was actually reported that the Hornets were seriously interested in Hayward. Not just surprising, but I find it weird because acquiring Hayward will be nearly impossible considering that he's a RFA that the Jazz are interested in retaining, and the thought of overpaying for a middling efficiency player that couldn't post inflated raw numbers on a bottom-5 team is even more erroneous

Post #140 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:23 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Which one of you is Cho on here? I really want to know...

So, you don't "know it all" eh? I have no idea which one of us is Cho, probably Ichiro