#Energy - The Jason Maxiell Thread

[HornetJail]

I'd love us to resign Maxiell. Guy gave us good minutes and played his ass off. Do I want Vonleh to play over him? Uh, yeah. Doesn't mean he can't be a leader and a 12th man off the bench

I do not want him back if it's ever going to come at the expense of any of our bigs. Is Clifford going to use him as the 15th man and an extension of the coaching staff? Then sure, bring him back Pargo style. Maxiell gives us squat on the floor. Pretty sure a 40-year-old Bismack would be able to give us more.

I completely disagree that he gave us squat on the floor. Sign him in a Pargo role, but he can contribute 10 minutes or so a game.

Okay, he had some good games, I will give him that, but Max simply had way too many nights where he was essentially invisible on the floor. You can tell he was giving it all he had, but that wasn't enough. There are probably 20 D-Leaguers that give us a big body capable of rebounding and defending as well or better than Maxiell. Over the last couple years, Adrien was twice the player Maxiell was for us this year and he was busy playing with Will Bynum and Emmanuel Mudiay in China.

[catch20two]

Adrien was twice the player Maxiell was for us this year and he was busy playing with Will Bynum and Emmanuel Mudiay in China.

Preach.

[LamarMatic7]

Link seems to working now. Hamilton and Fish. Makes sense. Both were also guards.

Plenty other players did that though. I can think of a few off the top of my head- MJ being one of them. I'm sure Wilt and countless other stars did too. 800 minutes is like 10mpg for 80 games or 15mpg for 60 games or 20mpg for 40 games. Rip and D-Fish aren't the only players to do that

Yep, Biz is right.

I wanted to use that search only to establish on what I'm looking for and then think of parameters that would help me narrow down the field to truly "washed-up veterans", instead of "solid players in their last pro season". What happened though was that even this search only found two players.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Max didn't make a ton of mistakes. His body wasn't able to do 100% of what he wanted it to do, but Max got what Cliff wanted and did his best to make it happen. Cliff valued effort & lack of mistakes over energy & development. It's just who he is as a coach. Take it or leave it. To his credit Max did a much better job than I expected he would with that minute load.

[BeesWax]

I think that is why you cannot bring Max back. I doubt if we swap all his minutes out with Noah that our record would have changed much at all and if it did I would guess it would have been to the good at the end of the season. Since Max soaked up so many minutes that could have gone to developing our young talent while providing very little production we need to let him go. Taking away Clifford's crutches and making him use his most talented players.

[yosemiteben]

I think that is why you cannot bring Max back. I doubt if we swap all his minutes out with Noah that our record would have changed much at all and if it did I would guess it would have been to the good at the end of the season. Since Max soaked up so many minutes that could have gone to developing our young talent while providing very little production we need to let him go. Taking away Clifford's crutches and making him use his most talented players.

He's an end of the bench big with experience and positive contribution to chemistry. If we didn't have Max this season it would've been some other veteran that would have played, since Cliff clearly didn't think Vonleh was ready for minutes.

[BeesWax]

I think that is why you cannot bring Max back. I doubt if we swap all his minutes out with Noah that our record would have changed much at all and if it did I would guess it would have been to the good at the end of the season. Since Max soaked up so many minutes that could have gone to developing our young talent while providing very little production we need to let him go. Taking away Clifford's crutches and making him use his most talented players.

He's an end of the bench big with experience and positive contribution to chemistry. If we didn't have Max this season it would've been some other veteran that would have played, since Cliff clearly didn't think Vonleh was ready for minutes.

Fine then don't give him a vet. Make your end of the bench guy at least a young with potential. If Clifford does not know how to use his team give him a team that he is forced to use properly.

[yosemiteben]

Fine then don't give him a vet. Make your end of the bench guy at least a young with potential. If Clifford does not know how to use his team give him a team that he is forced to use properly.

Meh, I see your point but don't agree with that approach. If you are in a legit playoff race, which we thought we definitely were for most of the season, I don't agree with stocking your reserves only with unproven young guys.

[BeesWax]

Fine then don't give him a vet. Make your end of the bench guy at least a young with potential. If Clifford does not know how to use his team give him a team that he is forced to use properly.

Meh, I see your point but don't agree with that approach. If you are in a legit playoff race, which we thought we definitely were for most of the season, I don't agree with stocking your reserves only with unproven young guys.

Then get a guy who has something left worth contributing. We would have been better with Jeff Adrien than we were with Max. I am sure he is a great locker room guy but he is a shell of a NBA player. We got him for Cliff to be a vet presence and once he started getting minutes over Biz or Vonleh he should have been cut for someone more helpful or to force the hand of our idiot coach.

[Eoghan]

He had a good season for a fat, undersized center. I like Maxiell, I just wish our coach didn't play him like he ain't our 3rd string big.