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Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#121 » by Sauce_Castillo » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:02 pm

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LofJ wrote:Jrue Holiday is going to take us to the next level.

Get revenge on New Orleans Cho and take them to the cleaners.

I think Holiday is a good fit here. Would people trade Hawes and Lamb for him?

Expiring contract so if we can't trade for him I'm on board to sign him.

Jrue Holiday is an allstar level PG when he plays, he is really good. Great size good scorer good passer great defender, he just is never available. I still would be shocked if anyone was willing to give a valuable asset for hawes and lamb.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#122 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:11 pm

Holiday seems like hed be a fantastic addition, but I can't see New Orleans coming off him. Hes basically their only good player other than AD and we dont really have any expendable assets theyd be interested in other than our 1st round pick and I'm not really sure Id want to part with another 1st round pick just to rent Jrue for a half season. If Jrue is in their long term plans they might not even want to trade him for a late 1st anyways.

We'll probably have to go after lesser options like Darren Collison, who might be easy to get once the Kings implode. I'm not sure if he is the type of character guy wed go after, though. I'm really not that hopeful about our prospects of fixing the backup PG issue, but Cho tends over perform when it comes to trades, so who knows.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#123 » by BigSlam » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:30 pm

Who says no:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ze3lwnc

Out:
MKG and Frank

In:
Klay

Charlotte:
Kemba - Klay - Bats - Marv - Cody

Golden State:
Curry - MKG - Durant - Green - Pachulia


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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#124 » by Snidely FC » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:45 pm

Braggins wrote:Holiday seems like hed be a fantastic addition, but I can't see New Orleans coming off him. Hes basically their only good player other than AD and we dont really have any expendable assets theyd be interested in other than our 1st round pick and I'm not really sure Id want to part with another 1st round pick just to rent Jrue for a half season. If Jrue is in their long term plans they might not even want to trade him for a late 1st anyways.

our lack of easily identifiable trade assets is a perennial issue.
LOJ earlier in the thread suggested Holiday might really like to be on the Hornets to give him proximity to his recovering wife and baby in Raleigh. thought that was a good point considering Jrue will be free agent this summer
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#125 » by SWedd523 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:46 pm

I went to say no but then changed my mind.

Think they say no since they have Iguodala.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#126 » by Mystical Apples » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:59 pm

BigSlam wrote:Who says no:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ze3lwnc

Out:
MKG and Frank

In:
Klay

Charlotte:
Kemba - Klay - Bats - Marv - Cody

Golden State:
Curry - MKG - Durant - Green - Pachulia


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Easily Warriors say no. I mean, they need Klay and it'd be a total kick in the pants when Steph bolts for GSW East next summer.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#127 » by BigSlam » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:07 pm

SWedd523 wrote:I went to say no but then changed my mind.

Think they say no since they have Iguodala.

I was thinking about that, but wondered if a younger version of him who Iguodala could mentor might be attractive to the Warriors as a longer term solution.

Might also like MKG better as a match up for LeBron.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#128 » by Mystical Apples » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:29 pm

Like the notion however. Several players should eventually slide up a half or even a full position.
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Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#129 » by BigSlam » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:36 pm

Braggins wrote:We'll probably have to go after lesser options like Darren Collison, who might be easy to get once the Kings implode. I'm not sure if he is the type of character guy wed go after, though. I'm really not that hopeful about our prospects of fixing the backup PG issue, but Cho tends over perform when it comes to trades, so who knows.

The dude I would LOVE and who I think would be awesome as our back up PG is Patty Mills.

He doesn't have the size to play next to Kemba (not that I think we need the 2 PG line up with Bats and Belli on the roster) but he strokes the ball SO well and can make passes/plays which would open the lane for Lamb and is obviously a product of the Spurs system so you know he "gets it".

Just not sure how we'd trade for him.

I'd trade:

Sessions and Frank
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Mills and Anderson.

Don't think they would though.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#130 » by SWedd523 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:17 pm

I wouldnt either. I value Frank the highest among those four.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#131 » by BigSlam » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:19 pm

Let's roll the dice and get Bosh here.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#132 » by bravor » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:27 pm

I 'd rather get Terrence Jones from the pel's (since they mostly play Cunningham with AD). Very cheap contract, and if we lose the 3 pt threat, we get defense, picks & midrange game.
Imo we could get him for very little (he is an expiring).

I would consider trading Frank or Hawes too. Among the targets, Ed Davis could be an option too.

I still wish Cho gets a very good combo guard in FA (or through trade), keep the 1st to draft a big pf/c (two ways profile) and to improve the team right now, try to get a big man that fits the bench chemistry (pnr, good picks, good defense and not necessary perfect in offense).
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#133 » by Snidely FC » Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:22 pm

Jeremy Lamb + Aaron Harrison to SAC for Omri Casspi + Willie Cauley Stein

would we have to include a 1st rd pick to get Cauley-Stein?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#134 » by Diop » Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:30 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Jeremy Lamb + Aaron Harrison to SAC for Omri Casspi + Willie Cauley Stein

would we have to include a 1st rd pick to get Cauley-Stein?

We would need at least a 1st, lamb wouldn't have much value at the moment imo.

I think their would be a decent market for WCS and I would love Casspi as well
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#135 » by Snidely FC » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:06 pm

Diop wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Jeremy Lamb + Aaron Harrison to SAC for Omri Casspi + Willie Cauley Stein

would we have to include a 1st rd pick to get Cauley-Stein?

We would need at least a 1st, lamb wouldn't have much value at the moment imo.

I think their would be a decent market for WCS and I would love Casspi as well

Casspi & WCS both want out of SAC.
I'd include a 1st too for WCS. He'd be like Zeller on steroids in Cliff's pnr schemes (offense & defense) and Nic & co passing to him, and would give us our rim protector of the future.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#136 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:22 pm

MKG is a better PF option than Jones, Bosh, WCS or pretty anyone you could reasonably acquire. Plus without exposing the already thin backup wing and combo situation by jettisoning Lamb.

This is precisely what SAC has decided and rightfully so. WCS is now their 3rd C and is buried behind Koufos, Gay, and Matt Barnes at PF.

Bosh is worth a flyer for 2017 if he clears medical but he probably won't be eligible for this year's postseason even if he does clear.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#137 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:28 pm

Snidely FC wrote:
Diop wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Jeremy Lamb + Aaron Harrison to SAC for Omri Casspi + Willie Cauley Stein

would we have to include a 1st rd pick to get Cauley-Stein?

We would need at least a 1st, lamb wouldn't have much value at the moment imo.

I think their would be a decent market for WCS and I would love Casspi as well

Casspi & WCS both want out of SAC.
I'd include a 1st too for WCS. He'd be like Zeller on steroids in Cliff's pnr schemes (offense & defense) and Nic & co passing to him, and would give us our rim protector of the future.


I'd take Casspi for a 2nd, maybe even 2, but unsure if you're under valuing Zeller or over valuing WCS here. Similar athleticism but otherwise Zeller is superior in almost every way imaginable.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#138 » by Diop » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:41 pm

Mystical Apples wrote:Bosh is worth a flyer for 2017 if he clears medical but he probably won't be eligible for this year's postseason even if he does clear.

I was about to tell you to settle down with the MKG > Bosh line until I read this.

Bosh is a great inside/outside threat, who plays smart team ball, would love him in a Clifford team.
He would be a great version of Hawes.

I like WCS as being a good backup centre at least and Casspi would be solid backup Sf where they currently play Lamb when he's not injured. Casspi also managed to play the Marv role pretty well at times for the Kings last year
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#139 » by Snidely FC » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:48 pm

Mystical Apples wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:
Diop wrote:We would need at least a 1st, lamb wouldn't have much value at the moment imo.

I think their would be a decent market for WCS and I would love Casspi as well

Casspi & WCS both want out of SAC.
I'd include a 1st too for WCS. He'd be like Zeller on steroids in Cliff's pnr schemes (offense & defense) and Nic & co passing to him, and would give us our rim protector of the future.


I'd take Casspi for a 2nd, maybe even 2, but unsure if you're under valuing Zeller or over valuing WCS here. Similar athleticism but otherwise Zeller is superior in almost every way imaginable.

I should have specified "Length" when referring to WCS as Cody on steroids, and probably got overexcited in terms of how much playing on this team could improve WCS. I agree that Cody is superior in all but length, but would love to have a C2 who could perform the same pnr roles as Cody yet add length, as opposed to someone like lumbering Roy, who requires scheme changes.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#140 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:48 pm

If Cho addresses a front court need it should be consolidating backup 5 minutes with elite individual rebounding. So Bogut who's ideal....expiring, rim protector, defensive rebounder, and incredibly gifted passer who fits with starters and 2nd unit.

Can't imagine a better compliment to Cody and the roster in general.
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