LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2)

Robot Rock · Post #121 » by **Robot Rock** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 8:34 pm

JDR720 wrote:Evidently Haliburton is miles better than Melo.

People automatically think anyone who plays for Charlotte sucks. We're basically the Lions of the NBA, before they became decent the past couple years.

Think 1999-2018 Cleveland Browns.

This is a good deal and one that needed to be made, so of course it'll get lambasted in the media. They don't know anything about this team. If Miami signed Cody Zeller to that deal, they'd say it was ingenious because it was Miami.

SWedd523 · Post #122 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 8:53 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Evidently Haliburton is miles better than Melo.

People automatically think anyone who plays for Charlotte sucks. We're basically the Lions of the NBA, before they became decent the past couple years.

Think 1999-2018 Cleveland Browns.

This is a good deal and one that needed to be made, so of course it'll get lambasted in the media. They don't know anything about this team. If Miami signed Cody Zeller to that deal, they'd say it was ingenious because it was Miami.

Just look at the narratives around Haliburton, Edwards, and Bane signing the same contract.

Post #123 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 9:05 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Evidently Haliburton is miles better than Melo.

People automatically think anyone who plays for Charlotte sucks. We're basically the Lions of the NBA, before they became decent the past couple years.

Think 1999-2018 Cleveland Browns.

This is a good deal and one that needed to be made, so of course it'll get lambasted in the media. They don't know anything about this team. If Miami signed Cody Zeller to that deal, they'd say it was ingenious because it was Miami.

Out of curiosity, can either of you point to an example of a media member criticizing the extension?

Robot Rock · Post #124 » by **Robot Rock** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:51 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Evidently Haliburton is miles better than Melo.

People automatically think anyone who plays for Charlotte sucks. We're basically the Lions of the NBA, before they became decent the past couple years.

Think 1999-2018 Cleveland Browns.

This is a good deal and one that needed to be made, so of course it'll get lambasted in the media. They don't know anything about this team. If Miami signed Cody Zeller to that deal, they'd say it was ingenious because it was Miami.

Out of curiosity, can either of you point to an example of a media member criticizing the extension?

Chris Broussard on FOX Sports Radio, apparently.

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Robot Rock · Post #125 » by **Robot Rock** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:52 am

I’m so here for Ben arguing with me no matter what I say.

Ben: The Hornets played well
Me: The Hornets did play well
Ben: on second thought the Hornets did not play well

Post #126 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:59 am

Robot Rock wrote:I’m so here for Ben arguing with me no matter what I say.

Ben: The Hornets played well
Me: The Hornets did play well
Ben: on second thought the Hornets did not play well

I asked for an example and you gave one.

Not sure what this commentary is but thanks for the example

LofJ · Post #127 » by **LofJ** » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:09 pm

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HornetJail · Post #128 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Jul 8, 2023 5:51 pm

no player option is massive, he can't leave till 2029

SWedd523 · Post #129 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Jul 8, 2023 6:03 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:no player option is massive, he can't leave till 2029

Damian Lillard says hey.

Not only that, but the trade kicker adds some extra **** you in the event he decides to demand a trade

Post #130 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jul 8, 2023 7:00 pm

That 15% trade kicker works both ways you know. If we ever did decide we wanted to move on from lamelo and cash in and get as much back as possible, it makes it more difficult trade him. Just sayin'..

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Post #131 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Aug 8, 2023 8:33 pm

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Where do you rank Melo?

SWedd523 · Post #132 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Aug 8, 2023 9:43 pm

Morant and Young in general are super overrated, Haliburton is getting there as well. Brunson underrated.

Tier 1 (Clear Franchise, HOF, MVP level guys)
Luka
Steph

Tier 2 (Great players, great stats, but can't quite lead you to titles)
SGA
Lillard

Tier 3 (All-NBA adjacent, Best player on a good team level, need more help)
Morant
Murray
Young (I don't think he's this good)

Tier 4 (Old dudes, still good, but better as supporting cast)
Harden, Kyrie, Jrue

Tier 5 (young, high talent, unproven, mostly-interchangeable depending on team makeup)
Fox, Brunson, Ball, Haliburton, Garland

amcoolio · Post #133 » by **amcoolio** » Wed Aug 9, 2023 12:55 am

I like how everyone loves Haliburton like he's this amazing winner and LaMelo is a career loser yet he couldn't lead the Pacers to anything better than 35-47 last year in a mediocre Eastern Conference and he has a career worse winning percentage than LaMelo who led a team of Miles Bridges and bums to 43-39 just two years ago, and the Kings immediately got way better after trading him

Bill Simmons and The Ringer said this recently too - that LaMelo hasn't won anything and doesn't deserve the contract, but praised the Haliburton contact

Post #134 » by **JDR720** » Wed Aug 9, 2023 4:20 am

It's the belief that anyone on Charlotte is automatically a bum.

There was a GB thread a couple months back about Haliburton & Melo. I basically said if their teams were reversed, Melo would be amazing and Haliburton a loser.

SWedd523 · Post #135 » by **SWedd523** » Wed Aug 9, 2023 4:48 am

Melo is an easy guy to hate with his flashy and flamboyant personality. He's always going to have a ton of detractors simply for that.

Being a Hornet just adds to the public dissing.

Remember the narrative shift on Kemba when he left? That's Melo but even worse. He's going to have to win big here or move to a big market before he gets any public respect

Rich4114 · Post #136 » by **Rich4114** » Wed Aug 9, 2023 1:03 pm

amcoolio wrote:I like how everyone loves Haliburton like he's this amazing winner and LaMelo is a career loser yet he couldn't lead the Pacers to anything better than 35-47 last year in a mediocre Eastern Conference and he has a career worse winning percentage than LaMelo who led a team of Miles Bridges and bums to 43-39 just two years ago, and the Kings immediately got way better after trading him

Bill Simmons and The Ringer said this recently too - that LaMelo hasn't won anything and doesn't deserve the contract, but praised the Haliburton contact

That is actually the thing that makes lists like this a joke to me. How could you sit there and proclaim Haliburton is up that high but then put LaMelo at the very bottom or off the list all together? If you want to make the winning % or record argument as the tie breaker, then it goes to LaMelo so far.

JMAC3 · Post #137 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Aug 9, 2023 1:43 pm

Haliburton individual efficiency is nuts. On paper he looks to be better than Melo, but I think Melo is better if you were watching them play head to head in a playoff series.

Post #138 » by **fatlever** » Wed Aug 9, 2023 6:28 pm

melo, like our entire organization, has to prove it, beyond reasonable doubt. until that happens, nobody will gives our team any slack.

Liver_Pooty · Post #139 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Aug 9, 2023 6:38 pm

Yeah he's getting **** on in the GB again.

If he was a Laker they'd say he's the next magic Johnson.

Post #140 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:00 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Yeah he's getting **** on in the GB again.

If he was a Laker they'd say he's the next magic Johnson.

Yeah that thread is cringe worthy.

"Yeah Hali was sooo much better than Ball last year, he's super overrated" *didn't notice or realise LaMelo was injured almost all last season.

"I never watch Hornets games because Hornets, but LaMelo Ball sucks and is super overrated. He only shot 41% from the field last year!"

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