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Post #1241 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:08 pm

BigSlam wrote:Which Lakers team underperformed more:

The current James/Davis/Westbrook team

or

The previous Kobe/Payton/Malone/O'Neal team

Definitely the current one. The second one you mentioned made the NBA finals.

A more apt comparison would be the Nash/Kobe/Dwight/Pau/Artest team to the current one.

Post #1242 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:12 pm

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Which Lakers team underperformed more:

The current James/Davis/Westbrook team

or

The previous Kobe/Payton/Malone/O'Neal team

Definitely the current one. The second one you mentioned made the NBA finals.

A more apt comparison would be the Nash/Kobe/Dwight/Pau/Artest team to the current one.

That old Lakers team was SO stacked though. Like, seriously stacked. Way more stacked than the current Lakers team.

Anything short of the Championship was a shortfall.

HornetJail · Post #1243 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:02 am

The 2013 team is a way bigger disappointment.

chabber · Post #1244 » by **chabber** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:13 am

BigSlam wrote:
luciano-davidwesley wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Which Lakers team underperformed more:

The current James/Davis/Westbrook team

or

The previous Kobe/Payton/Malone/O'Neal team

Definitely the current one. The second one you mentioned made the NBA finals.

A more apt comparison would be the Nash/Kobe/Dwight/Pau/Artest team to the current one.

That old Lakers team was SO stacked though. Like, seriously stacked. Way more stacked than the current Lakers team.

Anything short of the Championship was a shortfall.

Current team.

Payton and Malone were ancient and Malone was hurt in the Finals. Honestly think they win it if he was available. Also they were dealing with Kobe's off court stuff. I think they did alright all things considered.

The current team woes basically fall on LeBron's being a **** backdoor GM and Davis inability to be a franchise leader. LeBron shouldn't have to be the best player on the court at 37 with Anthony Davis on the team.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1245 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:04 am

Yeah I'm a huge Gary Payton fan and watching that season unfold was painful. Payton hurt that team more than helped them. Malone had a little left but kobe and Shaq would've been way better off without them.

Post #1246 » by **Diop** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:19 am

Love got 32 and 10 in 15 minutes today. :eek2:

Post #1247 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:47 am

And yet some here want to insist we are crap and had a bad season:

Liver_Pooty · Post #1248 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:23 pm

BigSlam wrote:And yet some here want to insist we are crap and had a bad season:

And honestly should have won 45 to 47.

HornetJail · Post #1249 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:24 pm

BigSlam wrote:And yet some here want to insist we are crap and had a bad season:

Vegas, along with most everyone else, expect the Hornets to under-perform compared to the talent level.

Post #1250 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:13 pm

all of us who watched this team should understand we under achieved, despite what vegas thought.
and if mitch would have added a few vets in the summer to provide some experience and not blown our moves, we are a 50-win team. i firmly believe the core was ready.

SWedd523 · Post #1251 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:14 pm

they won 9 more games than last year despite a broken C rotation and half a season of Hayward, plus China Flu shenanigans early in the year

They most certainly did not underachieve

Post #1252 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:24 pm

Every team dealt with covid. That's irrelevant. China flu? Seriously? Don't start that **** here.

9 games more than last year when our best player was a rookie and before miles blew up? Apples and oranges.

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Post #1253 » by **Diop** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:19 pm

CuseMayne · Post #1254 » by **CuseMayne** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:36 pm

Whoever said they'd rather play the Nets than the Cavs/Hawks........lol.

They're beating the Cavs 40-20 after Q1.

SWedd523 · Post #1255 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:46 pm

fatlever wrote:Every team dealt with covid. That's irrelevant. China flu? Seriously? Don't start that **** here.

9 games more than last year when our best player was a rookie and before miles blew up? Apples and oranges.

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yeah...if only they had the gift of hindsight and had a completely different team, their record would've been better

which is essentially what you're saying lol

you play with the team you have. not with what you could've had. go dig up the record predictions and compare the final record with what we were all thinking. I'd guess most of us bet under.

Post #1256 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:51 pm

fatlever wrote:Every team dealt with covid. That's irrelevant. China flu? Seriously? Don't start that **** here.

9 games more than last year when our best player was a rookie and before miles blew up? Apples and oranges.

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This, this and this.
Our health/injuries and the supporting cast compared to last year was a wash. Miles and LaMelo made major and moderate/minor jumps as players respectively. Of course we should have won more games than last year.

Post #1257 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:53 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
fatlever wrote:Every team dealt with covid. That's irrelevant. China flu? Seriously? Don't start that **** here.

9 games more than last year when our best player was a rookie and before miles blew up? Apples and oranges.

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yeah...if only they had the gift of hindsight and had a completely different team, their record would've been better

which is essentially what you're saying lol

you play with the team you have. not with what you could've had. go dig up the record predictions and compare the final record with what we were all thinking. I'd guess most of us bet under.

I predicted around 47-50 wins if my memory serves. Young team with a young potential superstar improving and all.....

HornetJail · Post #1258 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:22 am

Brooklyn needs to hold onto their lead on Cleveland, because I want absolutely no part of them in our play-in path. The Cavs minus Allen don't scare me at all

Post #1259 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:26 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:
fatlever wrote:Every team dealt with covid. That's irrelevant. China flu? Seriously? Don't start that **** here.

9 games more than last year when our best player was a rookie and before miles blew up? Apples and oranges.

Sent from my SM-G973U using RealGM Forums mobile app

yeah...if only they had the gift of hindsight and had a completely different team, their record would've been better

which is essentially what you're saying lol

you play with the team you have. not with what you could've had. go dig up the record predictions and compare the final record with what we were all thinking. I'd guess most of us bet under.

I predicted around 47-50 wins if my memory serves. Young team with a young potential superstar improving and all.....

luciano-davidwesley wrote:46-50 wins. Lamelo has a big season and improves on his rookie production. Hayward gets menstrual cramps and misses a bunch of games.

Goodecharlotte · Post #1260 » by **Goodecharlotte** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:31 am

Duration, Irving & Brown each playing over 40 minutes against Cleveland. You watching coach, don't take your foot off the pedal. Obviously fouls permitting Lamelo, Miles should play over 40 and see who's hot and ride them