The Trade Thread

[James Gatz]

I'd need to see links to reports of the official offer for Humphries, Jamison and/or Landry and I'd need to see that those offers were a better value both in terms of dollars and years. Humphries got 24 million dollars, and the Bobcats outbid that figure?

Well you're not going to have a hard time official offers when they were turned down. Hump we offered 3/29 I believe. Jamison we reportedly met for dinner and ended it with an offer that he told us he would consider. It was reported to have been more than we would have gotten elsewhere. This is bound to be true since he's playing for vet min.

[fatlever]

it would be interesting to see a list of all the players we have tried to sign and failed as well as a list of those we succeeded in signing

tried and failed
- anderson varejao (signed but was matched)
- gana diop (later traded for him)
- carl landry (signed but was matched, tried again to sign him this summer)
- goran dragic
- kris humphries

tried and succeeded
- brevin knight
- walter herrmann
- ramon sessions
- reggie williams
- derek anderson
- gerald wallace (resigned)
- jason hart
- steve smith
- matt carroll
- othello harrington
- earl boykins
- shannon brown
- flip murray
- larry hughes
- shaun livingston
- dominic mcguire

thats a pretty sad list of free agent signings. almost all are old vets who had no other options or young players who had no other options.

[catch20two]

thats a pretty sad list of free agent signings. almost all are old vets who had no other options or young players who had no other options.

What other options would want to sign with the worst team in the NBA? You don't have to answer that. It was a rhetorical question to anybody who believe that we'll land one of Paul Milsap or Al Jefferson this offseason with our current roster. Free-agency is a privilege that was granted to players to choose where they want to play. Nobody would choose to fade into obscurity unless they are a young or old player looking for a opportunity to stick in the league.

[MasterIchiro]

Well 2 years 24 is a better offer than 3 years 29. All Humphries would have to do is make more than 5 million in the season after his Nets contract expires to cover the difference. The Nets offered him nearly as much money as we did but for one year less of work.

And so far no official offers reported for Jamison or Landry.

[Kembastockton]

So far, I have not noticed a single free agent who has turned down more money in Charlotte to go play someplace else. Can anyone name one?

Well just last offseason Kris Humphries, Antawn Jamison, and Carl Landry.

Add Raymond Felton and DJ Augustine to that list as well. Both of them signed for less money when they refused to resign here.

[chrbal]

Not to change the topic of this thread, although it has already been done, but what happened to DJ? He was never great, but he wasn't this bad (5pt, 2.4 assists, 33FG%) in the past.

[HornetJail]

Not to change the topic of this thread, although it has already been done, but what happened to DJ? He was never great, but he wasn't this bad (5pt, 2.4 assists, 33FG%) in the past.

Those numbers are a drastic improvement from the beginning of the season.

[Kembastockton]

Sometimes the system and players surrounding a player has as much to do with that player's success as the player's talent. It seems that choosing Indiana over Charlotte was a mistake.

[catch20two]

Sometimes the system and players surrounding a player has as much to do with that player's success as the player's talent. It seems that choosing Indiana over Charlotte was a mistake.

I'm sure he's impartial to enjoy being a contributor to a team at the top of the Eastern Conference standings than backing up Kemba Walker on a team at the bottom of the NBA.

[SWedd523]

Sometimes the system and players surrounding a player has as much to do with that player's success as the player's talent. It seems that choosing Indiana over Charlotte was a mistake.

I'm sure he's impartial to enjoy being a contributor to a team at the top of the Eastern Conference standings than backing up Kemba Walker on a team at the bottom of the NBA.

I'm sure he's more impartial to making money.

Which is going to be difficult for him after this year. If he even stays in the NBA he'll be getting minimum level offers unless a team is desperate

[Diop]

is ball whore still shooting his mouth off with "inside gossip" on bobcatsplanet?

Or has he gone silent now that Dj is failing.

[countryboi]

is ball whore still shooting his mouth off with "inside gossip" on bobcatsplanet?

Or has he gone silent now that Dj is failing.

He has been MIA...he does show up sometimes but the inside gossip is gone

[Snidely FC]

Ed Davis was having a fine season with Toronto, averaging 24.2 minutes, 9.7 points and 6.7 rebounds, but he's hardly played since Memphis acquired him and he's averaging just 8.0 minutes, 2.8 points and 1.3 rebounds. Head coach Lionel Hollins admits he's finding it a challenge to get the young forward some extended minutes.

Hendo for Ed Davis.

Especially with Noel's injury, looks like McLemore or Shabazz in our future.

[MasterIchiro]

Ed Davis was having a fine season with Toronto, averaging 24.2 minutes, 9.7 points and 6.7 rebounds, but he's hardly played since Memphis acquired him and he's averaging just 8.0 minutes, 2.8 points and 1.3 rebounds. Head coach Lionel Hollins admits he's finding it a challenge to get the young forward some extended minutes.

Hendo for Ed Davis.

Especially with Noel's injury, looks like McLemore or Shabazz in our future.

I think that's a great deal for both teams. Henderson fits the scheme in Memphis and gives them yet another solid 2-way player and an upgrade at SG. They have more flexibility now to keep Hendo long-term as well.

And without Noel I think it's a foregone conclusion we'll draft a SG and not spend the money on Hendo. We need to get something for him. We're going to be in a great position to draft one of McLemore, Smart or Shabazz.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Can't seem to find it, but I've seen a couple places discussing a Chad Ford speculation.

Bulls get Ben Gordon
Nets get Boozer
'Cats get Humphries and picks

Not a rumor, just speculation based on some of the other offers being floated around. I certainly wouldn't complain, especially if one of those picks was our own.

[HornetJail]

Seems fair without the picks. The picks make me say hell yes!

[BlackOutBuzz]

Found this while perusing the Bulls board...apparently this guy has "inside" sources. Food for thought anyway, no one seemed to question him.

"Back to Chad Ford and the Gordon stuff. I know that the Cats would take Boozer so we could talk to them without the Nets being involved. Basically Brooklyn and Charlotte are the two teams that have interest in Boozer. The problem with Charlotte is they'd want to give a contract like Tyrus or Gordon in return. They have Diop expiring deal but I see it highly unlikely that they would take on Boozer's deal without sending one long contract out in return. Hence Chad Ford and Gordon. I was told prior that they couldn't see Gordon returning because how bad it ended with JR. The only thing I can think is JR just really doesn't want to pay the tax and is willing to swallow his pride and take back Gordon.

I'd love to get Gordon back. The dude shoots 40% from three and it's not like he's just spotting up, he takes a variety of three point shot. I think Rose and Gordon work well.

The next question is we're thin up front, which is true but we are loaded at G with some expiring people, Hamilton and Marco. It's a lot easier to deal Hamilton when saving 3 mil isn't involved. A Gordon trade takes us out of the LT, so it changes what the Bulls need in return for Hamilton or what teams they have to trade him to. Now they can trade him for a exact salary they're sending out. That makes things much easier IMO..

Again I don't see JR swallowing his pride here, wanted to give my view on a possible Gordon return."

[MasterIchiro]

I'd go to war with Boozer, Mullens, Biyombo up front. Boozer is boss. I think it's a fine use of Gordon's contract. And I agree with the Bulls fan's sentiment about Gordon and Rose being a good combo.

[BlackOutBuzz]

I was ok with it, but then I saw there's 3 years left on Boozer's deal...yuck.

[countryboi]

Boozer season is a mirage he is not that great and i wouldnt even expect him to be decent here. add that he is another short PF with 3 years left and I am not a fan