Signed By Indiana - The Jeremy Lamb Thread

[catch20two]

Catch reminds me a ton of Master Ichiro.

He passed me the torch.

[catch20two]

The team sucks too bad to have any on court rivalries, but the Catch22 vs. Yosemiteben rivalry is fire.

I wanna say that me vs Yosemiteben is like LeBron vs Kemba because he got no wins but that would be mean and take away from my competitive nature. I’m willing give Yosemite the Messy Marv signing. Not because I was wrong about Marv but because we were able to change his playing style to what we had Anthony Tolliver doing as a catch-and-shoot stretch 4. The first season with Marv was a disaster tho before he changed his game. Still was a overpay and still is currently a slight overpay but I’ll give Yosemite just that one out of kindness. Other than that I’ve been right about virtually everything else that we’ve debated about.

[Braggins]

Catch reminds me a ton of Master Ichiro.

I was just thinking the other day about how much i missed ichiro lol.

[Liver_Pooty]

I'm just happy to have a mod with thick skin that can give some and take it. Tsherkin would have banned catch a month ago

[catch20two]

I'm just happy to have a mod with thick skin that can give some and take it. Tsherkin would have banned catch a month ago

I used to think you and Yosemite were the same person until I realized that he agrees with the front office too much. That’s when I started thinking he was a mole. I still think he’s a mole.

Anyway I’ve been laidback ever since I had that suspension a couple years ago when my trolling game was on ultra levels. That hurt my heart and made me tame and mild.

[Diop]

I'm just happy to have a mod with thick skin that can give some and take it. Tsherkin would have banned catch a month ago

are you calling me soft!!!

That's it bans alround

[Joest2003]

Calling for Lamb to start has much less to do with his strengths and more to do with the fact that he can't organize an offense, create efficiently on his own, or set up his teammates consistently, so we have to go find someone who can.

I honestly don't even know where to start with this. Should be noted this is coming from the guy who lives to contradict people so much he literally puts words in people's mouth and puts it in quotes.

Can't organize or set up his teammates? I didn't know he was a point guard all of a sudden. Speaking of point guards he averages more assists then MCW (who is actually the one responsible for organizing and setting up his teammates.... but we will ignore that I guess.

Create efficiency? He is third in PPG on our team. Better than 3 of the 5 starters and everyone on the bench.

"So we have to go find someone else"
To try to insinuate that Lamb doesn't even deserve a spot on the bench is beyond trolling. On top of the worst evaluation of basketball I have ever heard.

We get it. You hate on Lamb because Uconn fans are not "real" Hornet fans. Just hope you realize how unbelievably uneducated you sound saying our best current SG doesn't even deserve a spot on the bench because he doesn't organize and set up his teammates while he averages more assists than our backup PG. Never knew SGs were tasked with organizing and setting up teammates...

[catch20two]

Calling for Lamb to start has much less to do with his strengths and more to do with the fact that he can't organize an offense, create efficiently on his own, or set up his teammates consistently, so we have to go find someone who can.

I honestly don't even know where to start with this. Should be noted this is coming from the guy who lives to contradict people so much he literally puts words in people's mouth and puts it in quotes.

Can't organize or set up his teammates? I didn't know he was a point guard all of a sudden. Speaking of point guards he averages more assists then MCW (who is actually the one responsible for organizing and setting up his teammates.... but we will ignore that I guess.

Create efficiency? He is third in PPG on our team. Better than 3 of the 5 starters and everyone on the bench.

"So we have to go find someone else"
To try to insinuate that Lamb doesn't even deserve a spot on the bench is beyond trolling. On top of the worst evaluation of basketball I have ever heard.

We get it. You hate on Lamb because Uconn fans are not "real" Hornet fans. Just hope you realize how unbelievably uneducated you sound saying our best current SG doesn't even deserve a spot on the bench because he doesn't organize and set up his teammates while he averages more assists than our backup PG. Never knew SGs were tasked with organizing and setting up teammates...

Don’t mind him. He contradicts himself a lot. He also plays the fence a lot but falls off like Humpty Dumpty frequently.

[yosemiteben]

True or false - "Jeremy Lamb has no responsibility for our bench struggles."

[catch20two]

True or false - "Jeremy Lamb has no responsibility for our bench struggles."

It’s true that it’s assumed that every player not named Kemba Walker hasn’t been able to save the bench from negative net ratings.

However that’s false because Batum has been able to get positive net ratings out of the bench as a de facto PG that take the decision making out of MCW’s hands. Batum has positive net ratings playing alongside bench players in 3 of our 15 most played lineups. With that said it only ‘ding ding ding’ make my rant that Batum playing with the bench benefits the team because of his passive nature of being the closest thing to a second PG we have on the roster.

It’s also true that Lamb has easily far and away been overall the most productive player off the bench. Even more so than half of our starters.

[Joest2003]

True or false - "Jeremy Lamb has no responsibility for our bench struggles."

I never once said he holds no responsibility for the bench struggles. In my opinion the problem with the bench is that they have no playmakers. As you said before we should get rid of Lamb because he doesn't create for others but he averages more assists then MCW (the guy who is actually responsible for creating for others) and instead of saying we need to get rid of our useless backup PG you say we need to get rid of Lamb. You can't make this stuff up. Ya let's keep 4 ppg MCW who blows wide open layups routinely but let's trade our SG who averages more assists and just dropped 32 the other night.

Your hatred against Lamb is showing in full force today. And it's sad because it's not that you don't like him it's that you don't like the fact that some fans were brought here because their favorite college players and not because they are from Charlotte. Seems pretty childish expecially coming from a mod.

And for the record Catch is not a UConn guy. From what I remember he's from Jersey and came here for MKG.

[yosemiteben]

True or false - "Jeremy Lamb has no responsibility for our bench struggles."

It’s true that it’s assumed that every player not named Kemba Walker hasn’t been able to save the bench from negative net ratings.

However that’s false because Batum has been able to get positive net ratings out of the bench as a de facto PG that take the decision making out of MCW’s hands. Batum has positive net ratings playing alongside bench players in 3 of our 15 most played lineups. With that said it only ‘ding ding ding’ make my rant that Batum playing with the bench benefits the team because of his passive nature of being the closest thing to a second PG we have on the roster.

It’s also true that Lamb has easily far and away been overall the most productive player off the bench. Even more so than half of our starters.

Perfect answer to illustrate my frustration.

You have just finished bragging about your superior logic.

You get asked a simple question.

You give a response to two unrelated questions, so as to carefully avoid criticizing your favorite player.

[catch20two]

Your hatred against Lamb is showing in full force today.

I don’t even think he hates Lamb. He just hates me being right all of the time whenever we debate so he tries to bend truth and let his emotions get the best of him lol.

Yosemite just doesn’t go against the status quo of whatever the front office decides to do. If Clifford would’ve decided to start Lamb then I’m sure Yosemite would be on board. He’s actually been one of the advocates over the years for Lamb’s contract extension that “Cho” (wink wink) did.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

True or false - "Jeremy Lamb has no responsibility for our bench struggles."

False Dilemma fallacy.

[BigSlam]

I'm just happy to have a mod with thick skin that can give some and take it. Tsherkin would have banned catch a month ago

are you calling me soft!!!

That's it bans alround

Spoiler:

Penis

[yosemiteben]

True or false - "Jeremy Lamb has no responsibility for our bench struggles."

I never once said he holds no responsibility for the bench struggles. In my opinion the problem with the bench is that they have no playmakers. As you said before we should get rid of Lamb because he doesn't create for others but he averages more assists then MCW (the guy who is actually responsible for creating for others) and instead of saying we need to get rid of our useless backup PG you say we need to get rid of Lamb. You can't make this stuff up. Ya let's keep 4 ppg MCW who blows wide open layups routinely but let's trade our SG who averages more assists and just dropped 32 the other night.

I never said you made this statement, I was literally just seeing if it was possible for Lamb to get ANY blame from catch. His response suggests that the answer is no.

Your hatred against Lamb is showing in full force today. And it's sad because it's not that you don't like him it's that you don't like the fact that some fans were brought here because their favorite college players and not because they are from Charlotte. Seems pretty childish expecially coming from a mod.

I don't know or care why you or catch like any specific player, it's not interesting to me if you just like his playing style, his fashion sense, his high school team, his shooting technique, you're his brother, etc. I'm not from Charlotte so if you're assuming some sort of bias on that front I would suggest not.

And for the record Catch is not a UConn guy. From what I remember he's from Jersey and came here for MKG.

Didn't ask and don't care.

[yosemiteben]

True or false - "Jeremy Lamb has no responsibility for our bench struggles."

False Dilemma fallacy.

See my last post.

[yosemiteben]

All I will say is I try to take the time to understand this team, post objectively when I have views, and try to support my views with data. I try to check my biases, question my opinions with available data, and reform my opinions based on developments.

I have talked about Lamb's flaws before, and have also spoken positively about Lamb's development this season.

I am happy to **** leave rather than put up with this ****.

[Joest2003]

[quote="yosemiteben" I am happy to **** leave rather than put up with this ****.[/quote]

Put up with what? Catch has always been a big advocate for Lamb you can't expect that to change. It's just a good debate

Like when 2 years ago I started to say Cody was becoming a bust and I wanted to see more than 2 double doubles a season i got raked across the coals. Ppl have their favorites and they will defend them no matter what.

[catch20two]

True. As a part of the bench unit Lamb is responsible for how bad the bench performs but at the same time he’s the least responsible out of all of the bench players for how bad they’ve been.

I guess that’s the answer Yosemite wants.