Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

Post #1301 » by **JDR720** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 10:33 pm

also he cant defend and gets hurt a lot.

LofJ · Post #1302 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 11:11 pm

Trading for Parker is a risk for sure, but it could be a smart one. He came back from his first ACL year as if it hadn't happened at all and was an efficient 20ppg scorer. If we can get a player like that at a cost of a rotation piece like Lamb and a pick; AND have the chance to pay him a below market cost because of his injuries it would be a MASSIVE win. It's a risk we have to take if we want to go beyond the 2nd round. If we don't take it now or next summer it will be several years (i.e. 5 plus) before we are in this position again.

And he'd play the 4, just like Carmelo Anthony it's his best position. He'd fit in seamlessly with Batum, MKG, and Dwight. We'd have to move Marvin later, but I'm confident we could do that.

It's also important to note that the Bucks are under new front office leadership, they aren't as attached to the players the team has drafted in the past. And they likely want to make an immediate splash, which Parker doesn't fit into because he won't play for most of the season. A buy low candidate as good as Jabari doesn't come around often.

dmutombo321 · Post #1303 » by **dmutombo321** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 11:21 pm

Someone I really like as an unheralded up and coming prospect who doesnt get much exposure due to playing behind Kawhi Leonard is Kyle Anderson.

Casual observers glance at his season averages, assume he's a bench scrub and write him off. But everytime he gets minutes, he performs, including scoring 20 against Durant and GS in the WCF when Leonard was injured.

Much like Klay Thompson, despite his lack of elite athleticism, he's a plus defender. He can handle the ball like a point forward, distribute the rock and was the MVP of the summer league last year where he averaged 23ppg. He's surprisingly adept at scoring the ball too, albeit in an unassuming YMCA style. Best of all, he's still only 23 years old.

With Davis Bertans coming on the scene, and Leonard entrenched as the starting SF, I wonder if San Antonio would entertain a trade for him. Once he gets and chance to start play 35 minutes a night for some team with regularity, he is going to stuff the stat sheet.

Watch on YouTube

CuseMayne · Post #1304 » by **CuseMayne** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 11:30 pm

chabber wrote:I wouldn't trade Frank, but I'd do a lot to get Crowder. He has high value on a small contract for 3 years. If they are getting rid of him the deal will not be what he'd normally warrant due to their cap.

If we were so lucky to get him, slot him in the starting unit and make moves from there.

Try signing a guy like Miles or another wing with the MLE and trade MKG for a pick or play MKG off the bench and hope the spacing doesn't present a major issue. If it does look for trades options in February to fix the second unit.

I checked out on MKG last year. I kind of thought we should have did something with him last off season and found a way to keep at least one of Lin or Lee by making them starters and bring MKG off the bench. He honestly hadn't earned a guaranteed starting gig at that point with all his injuries. Then his play changed this year so that he could stay healthy and he was not the same player. I feel we could find better options out there if we'd be ok to move on from him. My biggest concern is he and Kemba are supposed to be great friends.

At this point guys, I am hoping that the front office can realize MKG won't ever live up to the original hype. If we were to get Bradley, or Crowder, for MKG with insignificant fillers from either side, we would be fools to decline...

As far as the whole friendship thing, IT and Bradley are also supposed to be very close friends, but this is a business. If MKG is moved, Kemba knows how to be a professional, and should know that in order to win, sacrifices come along.

LofJ · Post #1305 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jul 5, 2017 11:46 pm

I want to see MKG one more time with a healthy off-season behind him finally before I'm ready to move on.

Bassman · Post #1306 » by **Bassman** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 12:00 am

I am very ready to trade MKG. A healthy season will not transform his jump shot into an effective shot. It will not change his poor handle. Everybody talks about him being a lockdown defender, but he gets toasted regularly by elite talent. Is Boston looking for players in exchange, or just cap space? I would gladly deal MKG there for Crowder and Bradley and include a protected pick.

Post #1307 » by **Diop** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 3:14 am

OKC will want to free up some $$ now they are in the tax.

JOB for Grant? He could be a handy 3/4 off the bench.

Eoghan · Post #1308 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 3:37 am

I would trade MKG for Liver Pooty's sloppy seconds.

Post #1309 » by **JDR720** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:09 am

Jazz-Boston sign and trade

Boston get- Hayward
Charlotte gets- crowder
Jazz get- charlotte first, Bradley and olynyk.

Then trade mkg for a first round pick.

BuzzCity · Post #1310 » by **BuzzCity** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 4:28 am

Hornets- Faried, Crowder, Barton, Jameer
Celtics- Frank, JOB, Weber, Graham
Nuggets- MKG, Lamb

C- Dwight/Zeller
PF- Marvin/ Faried
SF- Crowder/Batum
SG- Batum/Barton/Monk
PG- Kemba/Jameer/MCW

LofJ · Post #1311 » by **LofJ** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 11:53 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6903448

CHA in Parker
CHA out Lamb and 2018 1st

MIL in Bledsoe, CHA 2018 1st, Lamb, Dudley
MIL out Middleton, Parker, Henson

PHX in Middleton, Henson
PHX out Bledsoe, Dudley

The Hornets take a gamble on Jabari, but don't give up enough to cripple the team. The Bucks move Middleton to upgrade their backcourt with Bledsoe, and avoid the tough decision of what to do with Jabari while getting a rotation player and a pick to do so. They also move Henson for a shorter contract, giving them more flexibility. The Suns massively upgrade their wing defense around Booker by adding both Middleton and Jackson, and they also move Dudley for cheap frontcourt depth with Henson.

BeesWax · Post #1312 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 2:21 pm

There are still rumors that the Cavs want Anthony. NY wants to cut some salary and get something that fits in return while the Cavs also have the concern of being light at PF. What about this?

Hornets Trades Marv, Lamb, Protected 1st for Love
NYK Trades Anthony for Lamb, Shumpert and protected 1st
Cavs Trade Love, Shumpert for Anthony, Marv

I have not been a huge fan of getting Love because I don't want to gut the team or lose a key piece. This however I think works for us and may add a second all star to the roster.

amcoolio · Post #1313 » by **amcoolio** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 3:25 pm

I want all of Crowder, Bradley, and Smart. I hope we are able to get one of them at least.

Bradley would be a perfect 2 in our system. Sorry MKG

stinger14 · Post #1314 » by **stinger14** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:19 pm

3 team trade

Hornets send Lamb to a team with cap space for a second round pick.

That second round pick and our lottery protected 1st for 2018 goes to Boston.

Bradley to the Hornets.

Kemba, MCW
Bradley, Monk
Batum, MKG
Frank, Marv
Dwight, Cody

Kembastockton · Post #1315 » by **Kembastockton** » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:22 pm

JDR720 wrote:he also doesnt fit here. will he play PF, thus benching/trading Frank or SF thus benching/trading MKG?

FYI i would take him over either of Frank or MKG, but there is basically no way he doesn't get max offers

Sometimes the anger and disappointment over loosing a player for nothing makes us forget the positive that always goes along with that. Anytime you loose a player for nothing you gain cap room. But either way, looking at the rosters I don't see a trade for Parker on which both teams would agree. Cho is not giving up any first round picks, and Milwaukee is not taking a package centered around Lamb for Parker. They have more wing depth than we do.

Bassman wrote:I am very ready to trade MKG. A healthy season will not transform his jump shot into an effective shot. It will not change his poor handle. Everybody talks about him being a lockdown defender, but he gets toasted regularly by elite talent. Is Boston looking for players in exchange, or just cap space? I would gladly deal MKG there for Crowder and Bradley and include a protected pick.

I am ready to trade MKG as well, but not because of all of the negativity being spewed here. He is only 23. If he had played four years in college this would only be his second year in the league. He still has plenty of time to learn the skills you guys complain about. I want to trade him because Kemba and Nick are at their peaks and will soon be in serious decline. We need players that can help them win now.

JDR720 wrote:Jazz-Boston sign and trade

Boston get- Hayward
Charlotte gets- crowder
Jazz get- charlotte first, Bradley and olynyk.

Then trade mkg for a first round pick.

Once again MKG is only 23 and already an elite defender along with a first round pick we should be able to get better than that package. And yes I do mean elite defender. NOBODY CAN STOP LEBRON, DURANT, AND THE ELITE PLAYERS. They own everybody. That is why they are elite players. MKG is an elite defender, because he rebounds, blocks shots, and gets steals bothering everyone without drawing an excessive amount of fouls.

Post #1316 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:34 am

Trades I posted is basically crowder for mkg and swapping firsts with someone.

Mkg can defend and rebound....but so can jae. The difference is jae can shoot and makes half as much money.

BuzzCity · Post #1317 » by **BuzzCity** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:27 am

JDR720 wrote:Trades I posted is basically crowder for mkg and swapping firsts with someone.

Mkg can defend and rebound....but so can jae. The difference is jae can shoot and makes half as much money.

Dude I had an argument all day long with 3 guys at work about these 2...all of em swore up and down that MKG was better...I just don't get it

BuzzCity · Post #1318 » by **BuzzCity** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:33 am

dmutombo321 wrote:Someone I really like as an unheralded up and coming prospect who doesnt get much exposure due to playing behind Kawhi Leonard is Kyle Anderson.

Watch on YouTube

Yea I could see him being pretty good in a couple years. However from what I've read, him and Kawhi are pretty close. I'd assume it'd have to be a good offer for him.

HornetJail · Post #1319 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:57 am

BuzzCity wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Trades I posted is basically crowder for mkg and swapping firsts with someone.

Mkg can defend and rebound....but so can jae. The difference is jae can shoot and makes half as much money.

Dude I had an argument all day long with 3 guys at work about these 2...all of em swore up and down that MKG was better...I just don't get it

because MKG is a significantly better rebounder, a significantly better defender, and he's more than 3 years younger. I wouldn't swap them straight up.

Benjamin Linus · Post #1320 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:20 am

Jae's reputation as a defender is bit overrated. Seems like whenever I watched him last season, he struggled to stay in front of people. I mean, that could be happenstance, but I definitely wouldn't ask him to defend SGs. So pairing Crowder and Batum might not be ideal defensively.

Having said that, Crowder's contract is sooo good and he is better offensively. So I'd probably lean towards Jae, but it's close. Would prefer Avery Bradley if he weren't about to get paid.