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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1301 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:20 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:I like how you throw out my Zion idea as if it is my #1 option this off-season. I literally said only if we don't get a top 3 pick. That's when I would shift my attention to Zion because he's most likely the only realistic star available.

How are you even questioning Zion's injury history when you have ignored Melo's injury history. You should be all for this move if the goal is to put talent around LaMelo like you have been screaming all throughout this thread.

See how I just exposed you for calling out Zion's injury history yet ignoring Melo's injury history?

I'm cooking you bro. Just admit defeat. 8-)


Again, your logic almost never makes sense. Which is why I called you out to start with.
I have already cooked you, now you are back peddling trying to defend yourself when it makes no sense.
Which is why you have avoided the convo or trying to make this about me blindly loving LaMelo instead of sticking to the facts of what was said.

My Logic - I want the team to improve, therefore against trading LaMelo. Use current draft picks to improve the team around LaMelo via trade or drafting players to help Melo.

Your Logic- LaMelo is always hurt- trade him. or trade for Zion so they can both be hurt together.
LaMelo isn't good enough to win- trade him. Spend a top 2 pick on a guy that had a losing record in college to replace him.

So your logic is to continue to do what we have been doing since we drafted Melo which has gotten us nowhere.

Melo been on the team for 5 years. We are hit and miss in the draft and the players that we do hit on can't stay healthy including LaMelo.

So you're saying I'm in the wrong for wanting to switch up what we have been doing for the last 5 years. Shame on me for wanting to try something different. I guess we will continue building around LaMelo and hopefully we start hitting on draft picks and praying our team stays healthy.

Your logic is about HOPE!
My logic is about Change!

You're hoping that a bad franchise will finally get it by doing the same thing they have been doing for quite a while. I just can't keep riding that same bandwagon.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1302 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Apr 4, 2025 10:14 pm

Given Salaün is not a starting caliber prospect, I'm not sure I want Peterson to draft a team of prospects.

Leave the starters - LaMelo - Miller - Miles - Mark.

Draft in the lottery hoping for a 5th starter.

Make trades using surplus draft capital to surround those 5 starters with winning players.

And get a new coach.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1303 » by British_Buzz » Mon Apr 7, 2025 8:42 am

Deep dive on LaMelo Ball's roller coaster season and his future in Charlotte

https://clture.org/lamelo-ball-trade-future/
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1304 » by Bassman » Mon Apr 7, 2025 11:38 am

British_Buzz wrote:Deep dive on LaMelo Ball's roller coaster season and his future in Charlotte

https://clture.org/lamelo-ball-trade-future/


Thanks JP, very good analysis on Melo and the Hornet’s dilemma. A lot of unknowns pointed out going into next season; Miller’s particular ligament injury is rare, so how does it affect him? Tre Mann’s disc injury…not easy to recover from?

Melo’s value to the Hornets is huge, and likely still more than to any return they would receive in trade. Unless that offer is so good, one they couldn’t refuse, Hornets should stay the course.
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Post#1305 » by Chapelchilla » Mon Apr 7, 2025 3:23 pm

Flagg and Lamelo would pair really nicely. Flagg would take a lot of pressure off on the play making side and defensively help cover up some of Melos issues. The passing would be amazing to watch. I would not trade Ball until we see how well that lineup performs. IF....
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1306 » by wilson115 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:33 pm

So with a roster of guys on one-year contracts and another team's pariahs DET went from rock-bottom to the 6th best turnaround historically. #1 reason by a mile being Cade finally making the leap.

One thing that proves is it's absolutely dumb to give up on a guy who's got a real shot at that sort of year-on-year improvement just because he's been unlucky or "immature". So no, no trades for me.

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1307 » by Rich4114 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:32 pm

wilson115 wrote:So with a roster of guys on one-year contracts and another team's pariahs DET went from rock-bottom to the 6th best turnaround historically. #1 reason by a mile being Cade finally making the leap.

One thing that proves is it's absolutely dumb to give up on a guy who's got a real shot at that sort of year-on-year improvement just because he's been unlucky or "immature". So no, no trades for me.

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1308 » by UNCNYC » Thu May 1, 2025 1:02 pm

Weird reason I thought of to keep Melo. I used to be in favor of trading him but now I think not

He is the best type of STAR player you want that DOESN'T produce wins.
Meaning he is not good enough to get you over the hump nore is he good enough to get you middle of the pack.

BUUUUT he probably IS good enough if you get quality talent around him...

THINGS MELO BRINGS

1. A BIG NAME - which can help attract free agents, sell tickets, and keep US interested, while also allowing us to stay near or in lottery. Much better than the EMBID, HARDEN, WESTBROOK types.

2. READ NUMBER 1 AGAIN
UPDATED 5-5-2025



These are who I want with our picks in order



R1 - Flagg, Harper, Carter Bryant, Maxine Raynaud, Jase Richardson
R2 - Milos Uzan, WC 2, Kam Jones, Chase Hunter, Tyrese Proctor, Max Shulga, NiQue Clifford, Will Richard, J. Tonji
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1309 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu May 1, 2025 8:56 pm

UNCNYC wrote:Weird reason I thought of to keep Melo. I used to be in favor of trading him but now I think not

He is the best type of STAR player you want that DOESN'T produce wins.
Meaning he is not good enough to get you over the hump nore is he good enough to get you middle of the pack.

BUUUUT he probably IS good enough if you get quality talent around him...

THINGS MELO BRINGS

1. A BIG NAME - which can help attract free agents, sell tickets, and keep US interested, while also allowing us to stay near or in lottery. Much better than the EMBID, HARDEN, WESTBROOK types.

2. READ NUMBER 1 AGAIN

Wot?
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1310 » by UNCNYC » Thu May 1, 2025 9:08 pm

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
UNCNYC wrote:Weird reason I thought of to keep Melo. I used to be in favor of trading him but now I think not

He is the best type of STAR player you want that DOESN'T produce wins.
Meaning he is not good enough to get you over the hump nore is he good enough to get you middle of the pack.

BUUUUT he probably IS good enough if you get quality talent around him...

THINGS MELO BRINGS

1. A BIG NAME - which can help attract free agents, sell tickets, and keep US interested, while also allowing us to stay near or in lottery. Much better than the EMBID, HARDEN, WESTBROOK types.

2. READ NUMBER 1 AGAIN

Wot?


Lol, to sum it up, Melo is a great PG but not a great PLAYER. He benefits us being a FACE for the team... Doesn't hurt us by putting us as a 4 or 5 seed etc... Basically just keep him and the others and try and strike Gold in the draft... Don't trade anyone

Melo is such an asset for us...

PLAYERS I would take over melo - Cade, SGA, Greek Freak, Tatum, AE, Joker, D Mitch thats about it... *kwai, curry and bron all old*

Melo is great cause he gives us just enough excitement without crippling us making us mediocure... Just keep him around and try to land two other stars in the lottery to pair with him...
UPDATED 5-5-2025



These are who I want with our picks in order



R1 - Flagg, Harper, Carter Bryant, Maxine Raynaud, Jase Richardson
R2 - Milos Uzan, WC 2, Kam Jones, Chase Hunter, Tyrese Proctor, Max Shulga, NiQue Clifford, Will Richard, J. Tonji
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1311 » by JustBuzzin » Thu May 1, 2025 10:04 pm

UNCNYC wrote:
luciano-davidwesley wrote:
UNCNYC wrote:Weird reason I thought of to keep Melo. I used to be in favor of trading him but now I think not

He is the best type of STAR player you want that DOESN'T produce wins.
Meaning he is not good enough to get you over the hump nore is he good enough to get you middle of the pack.

BUUUUT he probably IS good enough if you get quality talent around him...

THINGS MELO BRINGS

1. A BIG NAME - which can help attract free agents, sell tickets, and keep US interested, while also allowing us to stay near or in lottery. Much better than the EMBID, HARDEN, WESTBROOK types.

2. READ NUMBER 1 AGAIN

Wot?


Lol, to sum it up, Melo is a great PG but not a great PLAYER. He benefits us being a FACE for the team... Doesn't hurt us by putting us as a 4 or 5 seed etc... Basically just keep him and the others and try and strike Gold in the draft... Don't trade anyone

Melo is such an asset for us...

PLAYERS I would take over melo - Cade, SGA, Greek Freak, Tatum, AE, Joker, D Mitch thats about it... *kwai, curry and bron all old*

Melo is great cause he gives us just enough excitement without crippling us making us mediocure... Just keep him around and try to land two other stars in the lottery to pair with him...

This!

You are 100% correct. Melo is a great talent not a great player. There is a difference. Cade is a great player. It's why he can take a team with not much talent to the playoffs. You can argue if you replaced Melo with Cade we are in the playoffs while Detroit is in our position.


Thank you for telling the truth. So many people want to ignore the difference between a great talent and a great player.

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1312 » by UNCNYC » Thu May 1, 2025 10:56 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
UNCNYC wrote:
luciano-davidwesley wrote:Wot?


Lol, to sum it up, Melo is a great PG but not a great PLAYER. He benefits us being a FACE for the team... Doesn't hurt us by putting us as a 4 or 5 seed etc... Basically just keep him and the others and try and strike Gold in the draft... Don't trade anyone

Melo is such an asset for us...

PLAYERS I would take over melo - Cade, SGA, Greek Freak, Tatum, AE, Joker, D Mitch thats about it... *kwai, curry and bron all old*

Melo is great cause he gives us just enough excitement without crippling us making us mediocure... Just keep him around and try to land two other stars in the lottery to pair with him...

This!

You are 100% correct. Melo is a great talent not a great player. There is a difference. Cade is a great player. It's why he can take a team with not much talent to the playoffs. You can argue if you replaced Melo with Cade we are in the playoffs while Detroit is in our position.


Thank you for telling the truth. So many people want to ignore the difference between a great talent and a great player.

*Good to see you btw. You will always be my favorite poster. I remember you welcomed me with open arms when I joined. Forever grateful my friend. :nod:


Awe thanks man... I welcomed you cause you kinda welcomed yourself... With your knowledge, and style of opinion!!! Thank you for being a HORNET fan and quality contributor to this board... Continue to be YOU!!!!
UPDATED 5-5-2025



These are who I want with our picks in order



R1 - Flagg, Harper, Carter Bryant, Maxine Raynaud, Jase Richardson
R2 - Milos Uzan, WC 2, Kam Jones, Chase Hunter, Tyrese Proctor, Max Shulga, NiQue Clifford, Will Richard, J. Tonji
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1313 » by GiggitySmalls » Thu May 15, 2025 1:21 am

I saw this posted somewhere else online so i have a question for everyone. How many years do we give Melo to see if he can stay healthy? For me personally this would be the final year. If he cant you gotta cut ties and get what you can. How many years for everyone else?

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Post#1314 » by KembaWalker » Thu May 15, 2025 1:27 am

He’s never been untradable so..somewhere between and including the first available opportunity and never?
Depends what you are offered in return
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1315 » by HornetJail » Thu May 15, 2025 1:29 am

I mean, I don't think we really have a choice but to let Melo run his course for the next couple years, it's kinda the Zion situation where if you're not getting a great return you might as well just hold onto him... and realistically we're not going to get a great return even now.

I think the team building strategy is kinda the same either way. We already need a good playmaker to take some pressure off of him, play with the second unit, and instead of him when he's hurt. Find that guy. If Melo is able to get healthy, great you have one of the best backcourts in the league. If not, you have Melo's replacement when this contract winds down.

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Post#1316 » by JustBuzzin » Fri May 16, 2025 9:21 pm

So apparently I just seen a video of the Ball brothers saying they have us trading up for Dylan Harper and trading LaMelo to the Clippers.

Let the rumors begin!
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Post#1317 » by fatlever » Fri May 16, 2025 9:38 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:So apparently I just seen a video of the Ball brothers saying they gave us trading up for Dylan Harper and trading LaMelo to the Clippers.

Let the rumors begin!


I think that's just Lonzo being a clown. I didn't hear him say that we would trade up for Harper only that the Hornets would draft Harper and melo would go to the Clippers. That's just ball family fantasy fiction because we all know that's the ball brothers dream location. There was also another clip where he was laughing at the Hornets for always picking in the top five. Like dude, we're in the top 5 because your brother can't stay **** healthy.
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Post#1318 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri May 16, 2025 9:40 pm

Lol yea in what world is Harper dropping to 4.
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Post#1319 » by KembaWalker » Sat May 17, 2025 1:48 am

The whole world knows Melo doesn’t wanna be here
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Post#1320 » by SWedd523 » Sat May 17, 2025 1:51 am

KembaWalker wrote:The whole world knows Melo doesn’t wanna be here

You know what would fix that?

Tanking for another year for a 13% chance to get the top pick
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