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OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1321 » by Lottery_Mafia » Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:26 am

JMAC3 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4lpP0Pa1Kg&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Love this Mark Price hire. I can already tell significant differences in his shot.

His elbow in under the ball and not flying out to the side like it was last year.

He is shooting ball more at the top of his jump.

His release is much quicker.

All that is really wrong with it now is that hitch, but even that looks like its getting smaller.

If this guy gets a consistent jump shot, he will be an NBA Star.


This video was taken before summer league, I agree the release looks quicker and the hitch is slightly better. However, both in NBA summer league and team USA it looked exactly the same as last season.

People must understand that we won't see the effect if Price until the all star break period IMO. MKG has been shooting this way for the last 19 years of his life, it will take some time for it to change. I understand as fans we are looking for improvements, but I don't see the Price effect being a quick easy fix.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1322 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:28 am

Its easy to switch your form in practice, but in an actual game it will take a very long time for him to actually shoot that way.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1323 » by lmcguir5 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:34 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Its easy to switch your form in practice, but in an actual game it will take a very long time for him to actually shoot that way.


You've gotta learn to walk before you can run. It may be small baby steps, but progress is progress in my book. Imagine if we could get 14/8 out of MKG this year :D
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1324 » by Elden Payton » Mon Aug 5, 2013 12:53 am

I think that 14/8 would be a big ask and I only say that because of the additions of both Big Al and Zeller, both of those guys will be given the ball a lot and both score from similar places on the court as Gilly.

MKG's foul concerns were overblown although he was very swipe happy early in the season, I think the refs are used to his physical nature by now and it wouldn't surprise me if his all world D broke through this season as the refs swallow their whistles.

11/7/3/1/1 is a very real possibility and I believe it will be more of an indication of our frontcourt that he won't average more and nothing to do with his "scoring ability"
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1325 » by mcaponi2 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 1:45 pm

Any statistical improvement from MKG has to be a good sign this year because of how raw he is. I see some progress in his shot but really, it comes down to your confidence. You can have a flawed shot and still knock it down consistently. Just ask Shawn Marion and Kevin Martin. Once he builds hat confidence he sholdn't be afraid to tweak the shot ofr take an 18 ft jumper. Any way the results will not be a quick fix. His jump shot is at least a 2 year project. Hiring one of the most efficient shooters of all time though does indeed help the process.
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Post#1326 » by Joest2003 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 2:26 pm

Will MKG ever be a All Star? I know everyones first answer is no but before you make up your mind you have to remember hes VERY young and unpolished still. I also feel Dunlap limited him last year and should have given him A LOT more minutes. Im getting flash backs of the Monroe dunk and I cant begin to imagine when hes like 23 and fully grown. I know his jumpshot is a little shakey to say the least but we all know how dunking on people gets you a first class ticket to the all star game (Blake Griffin). If MKG can come back his second season as improved as Kemba did we will make some real noise in the east and possibly get a 8th seed even though id rather be in the lottery for the 2014 draft.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1327 » by mcaponi2 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 2:50 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Will MKG ever be a All Star? I know everyones first answer is no but before you make up your mind you have to remember hes VERY young and unpolished still. I also feel Dunlap limited him last year and should have given him A LOT more minutes. Im getting flash backs of the Monroe dunk and I cant begin to imagine when hes like 23 and fully grown. I know his jumpshot is a little shakey to say the least but we all know how dunking on people gets you a first class ticket to the all star game (Blake Griffin). If MKG can come back his second season as improved as Kemba did we will make some real noise in the east and possibly get a 8th seed even though id rather be in the lottery for the 2014 draft.


I couldn't agree more with you. The guy just oozes potential. The only thing is you want someone like MKG to be fundamentally sound in all areas of his game. It will come though. You can sense it in his attitude with he speaks in interviews.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1328 » by Badd_Intentions » Mon Aug 5, 2013 3:04 pm

Looked good in the vids, but like stated earlier..in actual game situations you go with what you know. It will take thousands upon thousands of reps until this is in his muscle memory. I know he'll continue to work diligently on it with coach Price.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1329 » by JMAC3 » Mon Aug 5, 2013 5:20 pm

I think Mkg is on the road to stardom.

He was the youngest player in the league this year, and that really does matter when you are going against guys in their primes and playing the hardest position every single night.

He is a lot like Paul George and George is three years older than him right now. George is being considered a young superstar at this point and I would not be surprised if MKG is the same way when he is 21 or 22.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2011

Just look at the comparison of their rookie seasons, especially by per36, because MKG played a little bit heavier minutes, but outside of three point shooting they are very similar with MKG besting him in a lot of categories.

Even George has improved his three point shooting from 29% to 38% to 36%. I really think MKG is going to be a solid low 30's% three point shooter in a season or two, and even after that he is tons of time to keep improving it.

I really hope to see him take the right steps and follow in Paul Georges footsteps with things like flirting with triple doubles, playing more point forward, and guarding other teams best player.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1330 » by HornetJail » Mon Aug 5, 2013 7:22 pm

The only thing holding MKG back is his jumper. Once he gets that down, everything else will come to him.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1331 » by James Gatz » Mon Aug 5, 2013 8:13 pm

I disagree with the above poster who said most people around here don't think MKG will make an all star game. I think the majority believe he make at least one.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1332 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:10 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EJvBkIBrU4&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Starting at around 2:30 it shows MKG working in the gym for a few moments.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1333 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:28 am

Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1334 » by HornetJail » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:41 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kentucky-s-michael-kidd-gilchrist-no-longer-bothered-by-his-stuttering.html

Not to take anything away from this nice article, but that was written before MKG was even drafted.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1335 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:47 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kentucky-s-michael-kidd-gilchrist-no-longer-bothered-by-his-stuttering.html

Not to take anything away from this nice article, but that was written before MKG was even drafted.


Lol ah my bad, sorry. I thought it said 2013. I Google each players name once a week to try to find anything new since our beat writer only covers tennis or whatever on his twitter.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1336 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:25 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kentucky-s-michael-kidd-gilchrist-no-longer-bothered-by-his-stuttering.html

Not to take anything away from this nice article, but that was written before MKG was even drafted.


Lol ah my bad, sorry. I thought it said 2013. I Google each players name once a week to try to find anything new since our beat writer only covers tennis or whatever on his twitter.


At least this is current. http://instagram.com/p/dULtyLBafs/
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1337 » by countryboi » Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:36 pm

What kinda play is this is it a gym and a church?
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Post#1338 » by Snidely FC » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:11 pm

David Thorpe, ESPN:
"The list of No. 2 overall picks who have been huge disappointments is a long and scary one. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist did not impress anyone last season, but he still is young. His length and power -- huge advantages when he was playing with high school and college players -- are not close to being as advantageous now and suggest he has to develop far more skill to be even a reasonably good NBA player. To be a great player, something the Bobcats desperately need, Kidd-Gilchrist will have to make huge strides in both offensive skill and assertiveness. For starters, Charlotte would be happy to simply see him emerge as a special wing defender, knowing that there still remains some time for him to grow on offense. But that growth must start in 2013-14."

Jimmy Butler went from looking like a player who wouldn't stick in year 1 to one of the young guys everyone in the league is excited about in year 2. I look for MKG to make that same kind of leap this yr. Thorpe's wrong on MKG.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1339 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:07 pm

Thorpes actually right on, but its nothing we didn't already know. Even Henderson has stated in an interview that all MKG knows how to do right now is play hard. Once he gets even a little bit of skill he will be dangerous. Also MKGs body isn't even done developing yet, and he still looks rather beastly. His power and strength may not be too advantageous right now as opposed to college, but it most certainly will be in a couple years.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1340 » by HornetJail » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:47 pm

Snidely FC wrote:David Thorpe, ESPN:
"The list of No. 2 overall picks who have been huge disappointments is a long and scary one. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist did not impress anyone last season, but he still is young. His length and power -- huge advantages when he was playing with high school and college players -- are not close to being as advantageous now and suggest he has to develop far more skill to be even a reasonably good NBA player. To be a great player, something the Bobcats desperately need, Kidd-Gilchrist will have to make huge strides in both offensive skill and assertiveness. For starters, Charlotte would be happy to simply see him emerge as a special wing defender, knowing that there still remains some time for him to grow on offense. But that growth must start in 2013-14."

Jimmy Butler went from looking like a player who wouldn't stick in year 1 to one of the young guys everyone in the league is excited about in year 2. I look for MKG to make that same kind of leap this yr. Thorpe's wrong on MKG.

The main difference is that Jimmy Butler has been under the wing of Tom Thibodeau over the least two years. MKG's had who? Mike Freakin' Dunlap. I disagree that MKG "has" to emerge as a legit offensive threat this year, as his jumpshot was known to be a significant project. I'd start to worry if he's still like this at the end of next year though.
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