Don't Be Hurtin' Lin - The Jeremy Lin Thread 2

[Flip Murray]

I don't know. Good game from Lin. Very good game for the most part. Made a few TOs he didn't have to make, didn't get a friendly whistle. Just wish he'd look to be more of a game changer in the 4th. That quality needs to come out more in him to help Charlotte win games and take pressure off of Kemba.

This seems to be common for Lin actually. I feel like he gets the short end of the stick from the refs pretty often

Is it because he falls so much in general? Or non-star status? If the latter, he needs to up his game to near-star which he sometimes scratches on.

I really don't know. It just seems like he gets less foul calls than he should given the amount of contact he creates. I base that off no statistics

[TinmanZBoy]

That's asking too much of a $2M role player imo. Outside of Linsanity, I've never considered Lin as big time closer and I don't think he needs to prove that here.

I don't understand. I think his salary is irrelevant, we know the quality of player he is. Lin has had huge 4Qs for Houston even after playing terribly quarters 1-3. He closed games because he was clutch and made big plays. That's something that helps Charlotte because it doesn't have to all be on Kemba.

This. He missed a couple of shots so he started deferring uneededly. Still played a good game overall though, nice seeing him string together a handful of solid to very good games lately.

i don't think he was deferring or the let's say the deferring is by design from coaches, when kemba and Nic are on the court, the hornets run a lot sets on the strong side between kemba and Nic...lin is on the weak side as a shooter to stretch the floor... the situation is a lot different from when D'antoni designed even double screens for lin to free him up to score or make decisions... he had the full control of the offense by then... he was like a QB surveying the defense, then attacking...now he is playing a complimentary role

[TinmanZBoy]

This seems to be common for Lin actually. I feel like he gets the short end of the stick from the refs pretty often

Is it because he falls so much in general? Or non-star status? If the latter, he needs to up his game to near-star which he sometimes scratches on.

I really don't know. It just seems like he gets less foul calls than he should given the amount of contact he creates. I base that off no statistics

Lin has two nightmare referees, one is Violet Palmer, the other is Bill Kennedy (needs more evidences though)...lol...is it reverse discrimination?

[rayfantastic]

Is it because he falls so much in general? Or non-star status? If the latter, he needs to up his game to near-star which he sometimes scratches on.

I really don't know. It just seems like he gets less foul calls than he should given the amount of contact he creates. I base that off no statistics

Lin has two nightmare referees, one is Violet Palmer, the other is Bill Kennedy (needs more evidences though)...lol...is it reverse discrimination?

https://www.google.com/?q=bill+kennedy+sbnation
https://www.google.com/?q=violet+palmer+sbnation

coincidence?

[Flip Murray]

I really don't know. It just seems like he gets less foul calls than he should given the amount of contact he creates. I base that off no statistics

Lin has two nightmare referees, one is Violet Palmer, the other is Bill Kennedy (needs more evidences though)...lol...is it reverse discrimination?

https://www.google.com/?q=bill+kennedy+sbnation
https://www.google.com/?q=violet+palmer+sbnation

coincidence?

i feel like I should just put on the record that I disagree with what you're implying if you're being serious

[leeramundo]

I don't understand. I think his salary is irrelevant, we know the quality of player he is. Lin has had huge 4Qs for Houston even after playing terribly quarters 1-3. He closed games because he was clutch and made big plays. That's something that helps Charlotte because it doesn't have to all be on Kemba.

This. He missed a couple of shots so he started deferring uneededly. Still played a good game overall though, nice seeing him string together a handful of solid to very good games lately.

i don't think he was deferring or the let's say the deferring is by design from coaches, when kemba and Nic are on the court, the hornets run a lot sets on the strong side between kemba and Nic...lin is on the weak side as a shooter to stretch the floor... the situation is a lot different from when D'antoni designed even double screens for lin to free him up to score or make decisions... he had the full control of the offense by then... he was like a QB surveying the defense, then attacking...now he is playing a complimentary role

I can see that. But I still would've liked to have seen him be a bit more assertive and maybe call for a screen. I guess that might be difficult if what you described is what was the team was supposed to run. Who knows.

[rayfantastic]

Lin has two nightmare referees, one is Violet Palmer, the other is Bill Kennedy (needs more evidences though)...lol...is it reverse discrimination?

https://www.google.com/?q=bill+kennedy+sbnation
https://www.google.com/?q=violet+palmer+sbnation

coincidence?

i feel like I should just put on the record that I disagree with what you're implying if you're being serious

I'm not serious. It's just a coincidence obviously. The coincidence could be they both prefer McDonald's to KFC for all it matters.



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[Flip Murray]

https://www.google.com/?q=bill+kennedy+sbnation
https://www.google.com/?q=violet+palmer+sbnation

coincidence?

i feel like I should just put on the record that I disagree with what you're implying if you're being serious

I'm not serious. It's just a coincidence obviously. The coincidence could be they both prefer McDonald's to KFC for all it matters.



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i mean yeah i figured. just getting it down on paper so I don't get fined

[bigbob]

https://www.google.com/?q=bill+kennedy+sbnation
https://www.google.com/?q=violet+palmer+sbnation

coincidence?

i feel like I should just put on the record that I disagree with what you're implying if you're being serious

I'm not serious. It's just a coincidence obviously. The coincidence could be they both prefer McDonald's to KFC for all it matters.



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maybe its NOT a coincidence...?? Lin is very religous, a devout Christian, so I wouldn't be surprised if he has some strong feelings about the LGBT community. haha...i doubt it though, hopefully just some bad luck overall.

[TinmanZBoy]

i feel like I should just put on the record that I disagree with what you're implying if you're being serious

I'm not serious. It's just a coincidence obviously. The coincidence could be they both prefer McDonald's to KFC for all it matters.



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maybe its NOT a coincidence...?? Lin is very religous, a devout Christian, so I wouldn't be surprised if he has some strong feelings about the LGBT community. haha...i doubt it though, hopefully just some bad luck overall.

dude, cut it off.... I don't even think they intentionally target lin, lin just never got favorite calls from them, particularly those 50/50 situations, that's all...

[bigbob]

I'm not serious. It's just a coincidence obviously. The coincidence could be they both prefer McDonald's to KFC for all it matters.



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maybe its NOT a coincidence...?? Lin is very religous, a devout Christian, so I wouldn't be surprised if he has some strong feelings about the LGBT community. haha...i doubt it though, hopefully just some bad luck overall.

dude, cut it off.... I don't even think they intentionally target lin, lin just never got favorite calls from them, particularly those 50/50 situations, that's all...

your the one who brought it up, no one said anything or even noticed anything wierd until you alluded to it..SMH lol

[kinein]

That's asking too much of a $2M role player imo. Outside of Linsanity, I've never considered Lin as big time closer and I don't think he needs to prove that here.

2M is irrelevant, everyone knows he took a pay cut. Using that to start your comment is a cheap tactic.

Lin is a big time closer, he should run the show when hes the only one that shows up to play - ie yesterday - and score in bunches when necessary and feed/move/call the shots for others as he deems fit.

Last night's game was a wash, Kemba had a very poor shooting night and his fatigue was showing as his D on Wall was fairly ineffective (Wall 20pts before half time).

Batum duplicated Kemba's 1-7 from beyond the arc as well.

[13th Man]

I don't understand. I think his salary is irrelevant, we know the quality of player he is. Lin has had huge 4Qs for Houston even after playing terribly quarters 1-3. He closed games because he was clutch and made big plays. That's something that helps Charlotte because it doesn't have to all be on Kemba.

This. He missed a couple of shots so he started deferring uneededly. Still played a good game overall though, nice seeing him string together a handful of solid to very good games lately.

i don't think he was deferring or the let's say the deferring is by design from coaches, when kemba and Nic are on the court, the hornets run a lot sets on the strong side between kemba and Nic...lin is on the weak side as a shooter to stretch the floor... the situation is a lot different from when D'antoni designed even double screens for lin to free him up to score or make decisions... he had the full control of the offense by then... he was like a QB surveying the defense, then attacking...now he is playing a complimentary role

Good post. I think the Raptors game set up some unrealistic expectations on how Lin should be performing. Lin wasn't hitting his shots in the 2nd half so deferred to Kemba and Batum as he should, only problem was that those 2 weren't on their games either. Whenever Lin does do this, I consider it a bonus for the team not an obligation of him.

[TinmanZBoy]

This. He missed a couple of shots so he started deferring uneededly. Still played a good game overall though, nice seeing him string together a handful of solid to very good games lately.

i don't think he was deferring or the let's say the deferring is by design from coaches, when kemba and Nic are on the court, the hornets run a lot sets on the strong side between kemba and Nic...lin is on the weak side as a shooter to stretch the floor... the situation is a lot different from when D'antoni designed even double screens for lin to free him up to score or make decisions... he had the full control of the offense by then... he was like a QB surveying the defense, then attacking...now he is playing a complimentary role

Good post. I think the Raptors game set up some unrealistic expectations on how Lin should be performing. Lin wasn't hitting his shots in the 2nd half so deferred to Kemba and Batum as he should, only problem was that those 2 weren't on their games either. Whenever Lin does do this, I consider it a bonus for the team not an obligation of him.

the fact is he was not deferring at all, he had plenty touches in this one, he made plays, a couple of open jumpers did not fall, very normal.... this team needs balanced attack, they did it well... again, the offense was not the problem except a couple of crucial TOs, the defense was the issue, they gave up 3 consecutive easy baskets by missing rotations (PnR defense) after 98;99, that's a NO NO...

[bws94]

TZB I think he didn't shoot the ball a few times he could of and dished to a big. You were at the game so I agree that you see far more at the game than on TV. At any rate, in the future, if Batum and Kemba can't get it going I hope Cliff recognizes that and has Lin more involved in the offense and taking shots. Really, he's not there just to play defense, he's an offensive weapon and scoring threat as well. It's on the team to recognize that and Lin to be ready to step up if and when the time comes.

[TinmanZBoy]

TZB I think he didn't shoot the ball a few times he could of and dished to a big. You were at the game so I agree that you see far more at the game than on TV. At any rate, in the future, if Batum and Kemba can't get it going I hope Cliff recognizes that and has Lin more involved in the offense and taking shots. Really, he's not there just to play defense, he's an offensive weapon and scoring threat as well. It's on the team to recognize that and Lin to be ready to step up if and when the time comes.

again, lin was very involved down the stretch on offense, i counted the possessions after I re-watched the game on TV...

[Vae Victus]

Lin is putting together a string of good games. His avgs across the board are going up, especially in regards to shooting %. He's looking more aggressive with the rock and getting alot of penetrations leading to good things. Even though he still has issues putting together 2 good halves, at least in the good halves theyre really really good (IE the last 2 games) so even with a weak 2nd half it still avgs out well. Increased PT has helped him get into the flow better but it wont last when Batum gets back to full health.

Has his shooting finally come around? Can he maintain the aggressiveness when Batum comes back fully healthy? Will Cliff put more trust in him making things happen or will it still remain Kemba/Batum ball dominated. Last game, i felt that even though his shot was off he still shoulda just kept taking it to the rack and try to draw fouls (heh despite getting zero respect from refs) or keep dishing off as those are still much better looks than a Kemba or Batum straight ISO.

His defense doesnt look to have slipped much despite increased offensive usage, so that's a good sign. Just hope he can get more consistent and be good all game instead of great in a half and crap in the other.

[gafun]

It will be a big game tomorrow. Rockets just beat Clippers without much help from Harden. It would be tough for Hornets to beat them on the road. Hope it would be good match and exciting game.


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[TinmanZBoy]

Jeremy Lin returned to Toyota Center on Sunday for the Hornets practice, averaging 11.7 points, roughly what he averaged with the Lakers last season and less than in either season with the Rockets. But he has played exceedingly well, especially in December when he has made 46.7 percent of his shots and had 35 points in a game last week against Toronto.

Lin signed a two-year, $4.4 million contract with the Hornets so given all the moves in his career, he could not say if he had found a home, but he did choose a very good fit for his style and strengths.

“It’s too early for that,” he said. “I don’t really know what that means now. I’ve been in situations where I didn’t play well enough and that’s why I got moved or I played well and I still got moved. If I sign a longer deal I might be more ready to call it home.”

The Hornets have been a good fit because they have effectively spread the court, allowing Lin to use his speed off the dribble in the middle of the floor.

“I like to play with open space. I guess the more space I have, the easier the game becomes for me. When the ball is coming through you or you are in there for x amount of time, I get my rhythm and I get comfortable. In general, the more comfortable I am, the more instinctual I’ll play which is usually a good thing.”

Lin said he liked being back in Houston because he knows so many people and the “familiar feel.” But it was odd to know Kevin McHale was no longer the Rockets coach.

“I feel even more appreciative of the time I spent with him and the two years I spent here,” Lin said.

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[Liver_Pooty]

I like Lin. Really good, solid backup PG and role player.