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Post#1321 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Feb 8, 2021 6:59 pm

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Braggins wrote:Trae Young is insanely skilled offensively, but I don't think his IQ has caught up to his skill level yet and hes an atrocious defender. LaMelo is either already ahead of him in terms of IQ, or will be soon imo, and he projects to be at least above average defensively. Hes also a way better rebounder.

Agreed.

I cringe when I watch Young play. The super long range 3’s are kinda fun sometimes but his shot selection is atrocious IMO and like you said, his D terrible.

LaMelo is, and the very least, seen to give a massive amount of effort of both ends at all times - and is actually a pretty effective defender.


Sometimes he actually gives too much effort. Dudes all over the place at all times. I love it.
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Post#1323 » by KembaWalker » Tue Feb 9, 2021 2:26 am

I dunno if there are any young PGs I'd trade melo for at this point. pretty confident I'd take him over Morant, Fox, Trae. Not sure if Simmons still counts as young but I think I'd roll the dice on Melo over him long term too
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Post#1324 » by euphorbus » Tue Feb 9, 2021 2:37 am

We out-rebounded Houston 51-39, including 11 offensive rebounds. That is impressive. More, please.
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Post#1325 » by penquin11 » Tue Feb 9, 2021 5:38 am

KembaWalker wrote:I dunno if there are any young PGs I'd trade melo for at this point. pretty confident I'd take him over Morant, Fox, Trae. Not sure if Simmons still counts as young but I think I'd roll the dice on Melo over him long term too



I was thinking about this earlier today. We legitimately might have the best PG in the NBA in several years.
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Post#1326 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Feb 9, 2021 5:46 am

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KembaWalker wrote:I dunno if there are any young PGs I'd trade melo for at this point. pretty confident I'd take him over Morant, Fox, Trae. Not sure if Simmons still counts as young but I think I'd roll the dice on Melo over him long term too



I was thinking about this earlier today. We legitimately might have the best PG in the NBA in several years.


Sooner than that way things are going. Kid is so special.
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Post#1327 » by anish23 » Tue Feb 9, 2021 7:50 am

LaMelo Ball is the REAL DEAL. And oh my is he fun to watch.

Something I have noticed is the coach is still not completely buying up to the fact that this is now LaMelo's team and it should be constructed accordingly.
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Post#1328 » by -Ian- » Tue Feb 9, 2021 8:45 am

I've been thinking who's the ideal pair with LaMelo who's under 25? Assuming that Melo commits here for the long haul, I reckon other young stars would want to be play together with him.
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Post#1329 » by BleedGreen1989 » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:31 pm

-Ian- wrote:I've been thinking who's the ideal pair with LaMelo who's under 25? Assuming that Melo commits here for the long haul, I reckon other young stars would want to be play together with him.


Jayson Tatum.

So do us a favor and trade him to Boston :D
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Post#1330 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Feb 9, 2021 1:59 pm

-Ian- wrote:I've been thinking who's the ideal pair with LaMelo who's under 25? Assuming that Melo commits here for the long haul, I reckon other young stars would want to be play together with him.


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Post#1331 » by BigSlam » Tue Feb 9, 2021 2:05 pm

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-Ian- wrote:I've been thinking who's the ideal pair with LaMelo who's under 25? Assuming that Melo commits here for the long haul, I reckon other young stars would want to be play together with him.


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Post#1332 » by yosemiteben » Tue Feb 9, 2021 2:20 pm

Interesting stuff here:

https://theboonedocs.substack.com/p/one-third-of-the-way-into-their-season

“Well, it’s difficult on a defense,” Borrego said. “If he’s going to make those shots, it’s going to be difficult to stay in front of him. It opens up the court for everybody. You see that when ball-handlers, point guards can step out and shoot it with range — and Devonte’ is one of those guys. You remember last year and even this year, he has that range to pull up. When he expands his game, it opens up the floor for everybody.

“So, I’m not sure where the respect level is for his shot yet. Every team is a little bit different with him. But he’ll continue to prove that he can shoot it and he shoots it with confidence. The range he’s shot it with has really surprised me. The way that he shoots it with ease from range, it’s almost the same effortless shot whether he’s at the line or two feet behind the line. It’s almost effortless.”

And wild considering how people have tried to alter Ball’s funky stroke to no avail.

“Definitely,” Ball said. “It’s a ton of stories for real. Everywhere I went, they usually try to change my shot. But I always stick with myself and said, ‘This is how I shoot. I’m confident in it. I feel good letting it go.’ I came here and and they low-key tried to adjust it a little. But I was like, ‘Nah, this is how I shoot.’ And pretty much my whole life I’ve just stuck with it.”

Borrego didn’t know exactly what to expect when initially eyeing Ball in person.

“There was concern on my part, obviously watching him and not knowing the kid and not being around to evaluate,” he said. “When we went to L.A. to interview him and watch him, there was just a confidence about him when he shot. As I sat there with (GM) Mitch (Kupchak), I looked over and I said, ‘He’s going to be fine.’ The kid oozes confidence. He believes it’s going in. That’s at least half the battle in this thing and he’s going to continue that.

“He’s fearless. He believes it’s going in. He’s going to continue to shoot it. And I think I said that after we drafted him that was one of my questions. Everyone was concerned about his shot. In the end, he has great confidence in it and he’s going to keep getting reps and better shots as he goes. That’s a great weapon to have, though, and it sets up a lot of his game. He can get to the rim. I know he missed a lot of bunnies tonight, but he got to the rim. Most of those he’s finishing.”
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Post#1333 » by LofJ » Tue Feb 9, 2021 3:02 pm

There are some impressive quotes from Monk as well in that article. He has really matured, the organization should be proud of him.
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Post#1334 » by KembaWalker » Tue Feb 9, 2021 3:36 pm

if he can be a 34% 3pt shooter with the types of shots he's taking, I'm fine with it. After watching the MKG shot rebuild debacle I'm not too keen on going through that again. NBA coaches aren't around long enough to see a project like that all the way through and it was painful seeing MKGs form progress and regress after Price left. in the end he was a slightly better shooter but at the cost of what in his other development we'll never know
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Post#1335 » by LofJ » Tue Feb 9, 2021 3:50 pm

Melo doesn't even need to change his shot, he just needs to work on his foot placement (especially when he's shooting off the dribble).

And speaking of MKG his lack of confidence is what killed his career. There could not be anymore of a contrast compared to LaMelo. We should be thankful for that.
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Post#1336 » by Soul Rebel » Tue Feb 9, 2021 4:03 pm

-Ian- wrote:I've been thinking who's the ideal pair with LaMelo who's under 25? Assuming that Melo commits here for the long haul, I reckon other young stars would want to be play together with him.


This thought has crossed my mind a bit lately since LaMelo has been starting. If you're a star player on a crappy team with a bad gameplan and ball movement, and you watch Ball, do you begin to scratch your head? Much the way star players flocked to GS, BK, CLE, MIA, etc. Having a dynamic up and coming stud franchise guard that can facilitate will help you break out and get fed the ball.
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Post#1337 » by LofJ » Tue Feb 9, 2021 4:28 pm

Marvin Bagley grades out as one of the worst defensive players in the league. But then again he plays for the Kings. A dude that athletic should not be so bad on that end unless they're a complete idiot. He would be a beast on offense though playing with LaMelo. He's bigger and more athletic than Bridges.

Edit: And holy ****, the MBx2 moniker would work perfectly - MBx3. It has to happen now, get on it Mitch.
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Post#1338 » by BigSlam » Tue Feb 9, 2021 5:35 pm

LofJ wrote:Marvin Bagley grades out as one of the worst defensive players in the league. But then again he plays for the Kings. A dude that athletic should not be so bad on that end unless they're a complete idiot. He would be a beast on offense though playing with LaMelo. He's bigger and more athletic than Bridges.

Edit: And holy ****, the MBx2 moniker would work perfectly - MBx3. It has to happen now, get on it Mitch.

Should see what’s up with Malcolm Brogdon and Mo Bamba as well.

Melo Ball - Malcolm Brogdon - Miles Bridges - Marvin Bagley - Mo Bamba

MBx5!!!!!
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Post#1339 » by LofJ » Tue Feb 9, 2021 5:39 pm

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LofJ wrote:Marvin Bagley grades out as one of the worst defensive players in the league. But then again he plays for the Kings. A dude that athletic should not be so bad on that end unless they're a complete idiot. He would be a beast on offense though playing with LaMelo. He's bigger and more athletic than Bridges.

Edit: And holy ****, the MBx2 moniker would work perfectly - MBx3. It has to happen now, get on it Mitch.

Should see what’s up with Malcolm Brogdon and Mo Bamba as well.

Melo Ball - Malcolm Brogdon - Miles Bridges - Marvin Bagley - Mo Bamba

MBx5!!!!!


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Post#1340 » by euphorbus » Tue Feb 9, 2021 6:18 pm

LaMelo tied the franchise record for three-pointers by a rookie last night, with seven. There is something called Lonzowire, which despite the name is pretty objective.

https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2021/02/08/lamelo-ball-stats-news-3-pointer-record-hornets/

At the start of the season, I was hyped to see Ball, Bridges, and Monk coming off the bench together. Alas, Coach Borrego saw it differently, until the last eight games:

"Ball alone wasn’t responsible for Monday’s win, but he was on the court for the run in the fourth which proved to be the final blow. Alongside Miles Bridges and Malik Monk, the trio took over in the fourth as the Hornets moved to within one game of .500 with a second-straight win.

The 22-1 run set the tone in the fourth as the Hornets allowed just seven points from the Rockets in the final frame"

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