2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II

Post #1341 » by **JDR720** » Thu May 1, 2014 11:38 pm

we dont need no project bigs, we need some perimeter scorers that pick is wack

Eoghan · Post #1342 » by **Eoghan** » Thu May 1, 2014 11:47 pm

ARHornet wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
ARHornet wrote:I am a Tennessee fan so I've watched a lot of Stokes in college. In my opinion, his game isn't going to translate well to the NBA. He is strong, but he's undersized and really struggled to score over length. At this point, he doesn't stretch the floor at all with even a mid range jumper, though that is something he's working on. Defensively he's gonna struggle to guard quicker players because of his lack of foot speed and inside, again, he's strong so can hold his own but he's gonna struggle vs anyone with length. The one thing he does at a high rate that I think will translate to the NBA level is rebound.

I like Stokes a lot and hope he does well. But I just don't see his game translating well to the next level and don't really want to see Charlotte take him at 24.

That description reads a lot like Randle without athleticism but more length to me. I would take that in a late 1st rounder. I think he'll translate to the NBA just as much as DeJuan Blair and other stocky built power forwards before him. Stokes has a very soft touch and array of moves in the paint to be efficient, and if you believe his rebounding will translate, what more would you want out of a reserve PF that isn't void of offensive ability? So, essentially he's Reggie Evans, but he can score?

He could score in college. But whenever we played someone who had a center with length, like Stokes will face every night in the NBA, he struggled. There just are not that many centers like that in the SEC. My concern is that he will really struggle to finish vs longer players.

I don't know, maybe my expectations are too high for pick 24? I just think we can do better.

Nah, you're right. He's pretty much Jason Maxiell 2.0.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1343 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu May 1, 2014 11:48 pm

JDR720 wrote:we dont need no project bigs, we need some perimeter scorers that pick is wack

Draft prospects that had a reputation for being perimeter scorers in college that fall to late in the 1st round usually turn out to be project wing players in the first 2-3 years in the league

I personally view Porzingis as a solid 'stash' pick. The type of prospect that a team like the Spurs would draft and not expect him to come over to the States until after a few years. Porzingis is a well rounded talent for his size. I wouldn't be opposed to it

However, I have other options in mind that I would favor over Porzingis

Elden Payton · Post #1344 » by **Elden Payton** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:16 am

I'm not sure what people expect out of pick 24?

If we can land a Lavine, Hood, Warren, Grant, Payton, Christon, Adams, Micic, Capela or Stokes etc then we are laughing.

Any one of those guys could potentially be 'elite' role players in this league, which is exactly the type of player we usually pick in the lottery.

If anything, having pick 24 puts a safety net on the potential of disappointment.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1345 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:26 am

I think Hood will be a solid pick personally. Great shooter. Could work on putting the ball on the floor.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1346 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:42 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Hood will be a solid pick personally. Great shooter. Could work on putting the ball on the floor.

Rodney Hood is too much of a brain fart to me. He's skilled & versatile, but not overtly athletic, and as aforementioned his basketball IQ is lacking, so that'll prevent him from seeing extended or quality minutes on a team that's in win-now mode adverse of development like previous years, especially under Clifford's watch

Liver_Pooty · Post #1347 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:44 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Hood will be a solid pick personally. Great shooter. Could work on putting the ball on the floor.

Rodney Hood is too much of a brain fart to me. He's skilled & versatile, but not overtly athletic, and as aforementioned his basketball IQ is lacking, so that'll prevent him from seeing extended or quality minutes on a team that's in win-now mode adverse of development like previous years, especially under Clifford's watch

Id be content with him, Lavine, or Payne at 24.

I think Payne would be an incredible steal.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1348 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:46 am

If we somehow get the Pistons pick would any of you want Dario Saric? Can play both SF and PF. Probably a year or two away, but hes definitely one to look after.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1349 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:48 am

April 29, 2014
Dario Saric led his Cibona team to a historic Adriatic League Championship this past weekend, with wins over Red Star and Cedevita at Kombank arena in Belgrade. This was the first Adriatic League championship Cibona has ever won despite being inaugural members of the competition in 2001, and the first time a Croatian team has captured the title since KK Zadar won it in 2003 (back when only one Serbian team, Red Star, participated).

Saric, the reigning MVP of the league, who turned 20 years old just three weeks ago, was absolutely huge in the two game, single-elimination Final Four format, totaling 44 points, 26 rebounds, 13 assists and 5 blocks in 77 minutes, shooting a blistering 8-16 from beyond the arc. He was in turn named MVP of the Final Four as well.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz30VywJ6Kn
http://www.draftexpress.com

Not very familiar with this, but it sounds rather impressive.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1350 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:49 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Hood will be a solid pick personally. Great shooter. Could work on putting the ball on the floor.

Rodney Hood is too much of a brain fart to me. He's skilled & versatile, but not overtly athletic, and as aforementioned his basketball IQ is lacking, so that'll prevent him from seeing extended or quality minutes on a team that's in win-now mode adverse of development like previous years, especially under Clifford's watch

Id be content with him, Lavine, or Payne at 24.

I think Payne would be an incredible steal.

Payne got exposed by Kevin Ollie's NBA-style defensive approach. I liked his prospects at #24 until then. I guess he'd still be a solid pick, but at 23 years old he didn't show me the seasoned performance that I expected of him against quality competition in the tournament

mrknowitall215 · Post #1351 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:50 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:If we somehow get the Pistons pick would any of you want Dario Saric? Can play both SF and PF. Probably a year or two away, but hes definitely one to look after.

Saric isn't a scorer or shooter, much of the same like a sleeker McRoberts. I would rather McDermott if they opt to go the SF/PF route

Liver_Pooty · Post #1352 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 12:51 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:If we somehow get the Pistons pick would any of you want Dario Saric? Can play both SF and PF. Probably a year or two away, but hes definitely one to look after.

Saric isn't a scorer or shooter, much of the same like a sleeker McRoberts. I would rather McDermott if they opt to go the SF/PF route

I think Saric is going to be a fine player, but I would probably go with McDermott as well.

Post #1353 » by **BigSlam** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:27 am

Spencer Dinwiddie anyone?

mrknowitall215 · Post #1354 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:32 am

BigSlam wrote:Spencer Dinwiddie anyone?

Dinwiddie wouldn't be available for summer league due to rehabbing his ACL injury. Add Taylor, that'll leave Charlotte without two prospects in summmer league. I guess he wouldn't be a bad get in the 2nd round, but the risk is a risk to put it lightly

I thought he was solid late 1st round material before the injury though

Post #1355 » by **JDR720** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:32 am

BigSlam wrote:Spencer Dinwiddie anyone?

2nd round maybe, he torn his ACL this season

Liver_Pooty · Post #1356 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:33 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Spencer Dinwiddie anyone?

Dinwiddie wouldn't be available for summer league due to rehabbing his ACL injury. Add Taylor, that'll leave Charlotte without two prospects in summmer league. I guess he wouldn't be a bad get in the 2nd round, but the risk is a risk to put it lightly

I thought he was solid late 1st round material before the injury though

I think this was answered earlier this season, but I could have swore that a player is only eligible to play in two summer leagues. Someone posted something saying if it was true or not. Wish I could find it .

mrknowitall215 · Post #1357 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:37 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Spencer Dinwiddie anyone?

Dinwiddie wouldn't be available for summer league due to rehabbing his ACL injury. Add Taylor, that'll leave Charlotte without two prospects in summmer league. I guess he wouldn't be a bad get in the 2nd round, but the risk is a risk to put it lightly

I thought he was solid late 1st round material before the injury though

I think this was answered earlier this season, but I could have swore that a player is only eligible to play in two summer leagues. Someone posted something saying if it was true or not. Wish I could find it .

Clifford on whom he wants playing in summer league: “Cody and the draft picks,” adding the injured Jeff Taylor wants to play but might not be ready in July.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/04/30/ ... steve.html

Post #1358 » by **JDR720** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:39 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Spencer Dinwiddie anyone?

Dinwiddie wouldn't be available for summer league due to rehabbing his ACL injury. Add Taylor, that'll leave Charlotte without two prospects in summmer league. I guess he wouldn't be a bad get in the 2nd round, but the risk is a risk to put it lightly

I thought he was solid late 1st round material before the injury though

I think this was answered earlier this season, but I could have swore that a player is only eligible to play in two summer leagues. Someone posted something saying if it was true or not. Wish I could find it .

you can play in more than 2, unless you're a certain age or have a certain number of starts

Liver_Pooty · Post #1359 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:39 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Dinwiddie wouldn't be available for summer league due to rehabbing his ACL injury. Add Taylor, that'll leave Charlotte without two prospects in summmer league. I guess he wouldn't be a bad get in the 2nd round, but the risk is a risk to put it lightly

I thought he was solid late 1st round material before the injury though

I think this was answered earlier this season, but I could have swore that a player is only eligible to play in two summer leagues. Someone posted something saying if it was true or not. Wish I could find it .

Clifford on whom he wants playing in summer league: “Cody and the draft picks,” adding the injured Jeff Taylor wants to play but might not be ready in July.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/04/30/ ... steve.html

In that case MKG and Biyombo need to play as well. Don't know if I can stomach another summer league like they had last season though. I was expecting them to dominate.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1360 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri May 2, 2014 1:43 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:In that case MKG and Biyombo need to play as well. Don't know if I can stomach another summer league like they had last season though. I was expecting them to dominate.

MKG & Biyombo are above summer league. They've ironed out their niche in the league at their respective areas. Now they both need to work on heavy offensive repetitions in the solace of a lonely gym with them and a individual personal trainer