2013 NBA draft prospects chatter

[fatlever]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... -thin.html

bonnell gets these ideas in his head and then beats them into his articles over and over. from his most recent draft article he beats home two of his favorite points of the year, damian lillard and alex len.

lillard - bonnell wrote a while back that he would trade anyone on the bobcats roster for lillard. lillard is a nice point guard, but he is statistically basically the same player as kemba walker. even if lillard is better than walker the different isnt so much that anyone should talk about it for more than 5 seconds. but here bonnell is again talking up lillard

Now the bad news: Various scouts around the NBA see the 2013 draft as nothing special. Even if everyone eligible turns pro, there won’t be any player with the potential of New Orleans big man Anthony Davis or Portland point guard Damian Lillard.

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he says that there are no players in the 2013 draft that have the potential of lillard. really bonnell? lillard, the same guy that was such a sure-fire cant miss prospect in the last draft that he went #6. the same guy who had 4 years of experience in college compared to most everyone else's one year. you mean to tell me right now that there is no way that mclemore, shabazz, smart or olidipo have no chance at reaching lillards potential? are you certain? smart is a freshman and is already a beast. can you imagine what kind of numbers that kid would put up with four years of college playing in a small conference like lillard? lillard, the same player who averaged 11.5ppg and 2.9apg as a freshman for weber st. none of the freshman in this draft have that kind of potential? really rick? come on.

and of course, next he goes on to talk about alex len again

There are others out there, like Kansas shooting guard Ben McLemore and Maryland big man Alex Len, who could help the Bobcats. But it’s hard to picture the 2013 draft as a panacea.

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i dont really have a problem with that quote, just odd that bonnell has been fixated on len all season. len might be a great player and he might be the best fit for us considering we need a center badly, but he's not the only player that can help us. pretty much any of the top 8 guys could probably start for us next season (assuming smart can play shooting guard, which i think he can). the only guy in the top 10 who probably wouldnt start for us next year would be otto porter since he would be stuck behind MKG.

then again, MKG is only our "5th best asset" so maybe that spot is up for grabs as well.

[MasterIchiro]

Looking around the league. The only centers that interest me are Greg Monroe and Demarcus Cousins. Next years draft doesn't have a clear winner at the position either.

So maybe we should figure out a way to add a second high pick and draft Len.

Supposedly Minnesota is willing to trade first round picks for wing players or at least they were at the trade deadline.

McLemore and Len would be a solid draft if Cho can pull it off.

[BlackOutBuzz]

I feel like Bonnell, like many of us in the southeast, suffers from ACC-centricity when it comes to college basketball. (NOTE: Centricity may or may not be a real word, just saying that a lot of people down here tend to view the ACC and its prospects as the cream of the crop year in and year out.)

I'm sure Len, McAdoo, Plumlee, Leslie, Bullock, Snaer, Brown, Howell, and Sulaimon are all relatively high on his big board. I'm sure Kelly and Curry are probably on there too.

[thruthefire]

...wait, our first for Klay Thompson? I see no reason to think McLemore won't be better. Just as good of a shooter, much better athlete.

Id love to give up our first for Thompson.

I'm not sure why. He's not of any help when his outside shots aren't falling.

Here's how he stacks up to Hendo, for instance: http://bkref.com/tiny/MjyqP

[MasterIchiro]

Where is Cauley-Stein going to go in the draft? He's really athletic.

[BlackOutBuzz]

I like Klay, but not for a top 5 pick. I'd give up the PDX pick for him though.

[SWedd523]

I wouldn't necessarily mind trading the pick for a player either. Don't think Klay Thompson has that value though. Be interesting to see what sort of guys we can come up with

[BobsBuddy]

The way I see the 2013 draft is that their is Shabazz and then a few sleepers Noel with blown out knee will now drop to somewhere top 5. HE IS TOO Skinny at 215. BIZ is Better.
Mclemore has behavior issues but still should go top 2. You are right that Minnesota is interested. so if we pick 2 or 3 our best bet is to trade the pick and ( Gordon,Haywwod,Adrien)Trade Checker 6249185 to Minnesota for (DWilliams,Roy, Ridnour, Stiemsma,)their 9th pick in the 2013 first round and their 2nd round pick in 2014. We then select Archie Goodwin (Kentucky 6'5" 200lb SG) at 9 . (If Portlands Protected pick is available to us at 14 we pick best available player(C.J. McCullum) otherwise Portlands pick will be in 2014 which should actually be better for us.) If we can pull this off Gordon is gone and in a weak draft we got Derrick Williams (2nd overall pick 2 years ago) /Stiemsma 7' 260 23 year old backup center, Roy for 3pt specialist and Ridenhour as 3rd point or 2guard and drafted Goodwin who is a project but could have major upside at 2.And got an extra 2nd round pick in the deep 2014 draft.
Next season lineup
KW, Sessions(contractextension signed),Ridnour(or MCCollum),
Hendo RFA(or Ridhour) ,Roy,Goodwin
Mkg,JT,
DWilliams,MCRob,TT
Mully(extension signed),Biz,Stiemsma,

With this lineup,extensions signed, and deep at every postion we will probably win 25 games in 2013-2014 season,but still have our1st round top 10 protected pick from that awful Chicago trade that brought us the 6 million$ bench shinner TT. In the 2014 draft,we should have our #1 pick top 10, Portlands top 12 protected pick(Assuming they keep loosing this season), Our 2014 Second round pick and maybe Minnesota's 2nd round pick.

We won't draft top 3 in 2014 but should be able to draft 3 good young players to replace next years expiring contracts and Roy,TT,Ridnour to start 2015 and our first apperance in the playoffs.

[Eoghan]

DO NOT WANT GOODWIN.

Anywhere he's likely to be drafted is probably a reach b/c of this weak draft.

[Liver_Pooty]

McLemore is plummeting on my board lately.

[catch20two]

McLemore is just a case of this newfound infatuation of advanced stats. The eye test for me when watching him since the beginning never showed me much but a player that had talent but wasn't aggressive enough to be an elite scorer and lacked the ability to create his own shot.

[Diop]

Didn't his own coach say he hasn't got the personality to be the man and take over in crunch time.

Doesn't necessarily make him a bad pick, actually reminds me more of Ray Allen.

It would mean we would still need our go to scorer.

[Kembastockton]

I feel like Bonnell, like many of us in the southeast, suffers from ACC-centricity when it comes to college basketball. (NOTE: Centricity may or may not be a real word, just saying that a lot of people down here tend to view the ACC and its prospects as the cream of the crop year in and year out.)

I'm sure Len, McAdoo, Plumlee, Leslie, Bullock, Snaer, Brown, Howell, and Sulaimon are all relatively high on his big board. I'm sure Kelly and Curry are probably on there too.

I seriously doubt Bonnell even watches much basketball outside the ACC.

Where is Cauley-Stein going to go in the draft? He's really athletic.

Probably somewhere mid to the back of the lottery.

I like Klay, but not for a top 5 pick. I'd give up the PDX pick for him though.

I agree. I love Klay and would love to have him here, but not for a top five pick. Maybe Klay and Harrison for Jeff and the pick, but they probably wouldn't.

Didn't his own coach say he hasn't got the personality to be the man and take over in crunch time.

Doesn't necessarily make him a bad pick, actually reminds me more of Ray Allen.

It would mean we would still need our go to scorer.

I thought his coach was quoted as saying that he was the most talented kid he had ever coached.

[Snidely FC]

Do people think we are going to get the POR pick this year? I had concluded that POR was in full tank mode, realizing they wanted to keep this year's pick (confirmed by their shopping Hickson at the trade deadline). But then it occurred to me, maybe they realize that they're better off letting the pick go this year with '14 looking like a better year to have a pick?

[Liver_Pooty]

Do people think we are going to get the POR pick this year? I had concluded that POR was in full tank mode, realizing they wanted to keep this year's pick (confirmed by their shopping Hickson at the trade deadline). But then it occurred to me, maybe they realize that they're better off letting the pick go this year with '14 looking like a better year to have a pick?

I don't think we will get it, and I hope we don't get it.

[JT2006]

Didn't his own coach say he hasn't got the personality to be the man and take over in crunch time.

Doesn't necessarily make him a bad pick, actually reminds me more of Ray Allen.

It would mean we would still need our go to scorer.

what? ray allen has more clutch threes than 99% of players in this league.

[doc.end]

McLemore is just a case of this newfound infatuation of advanced stats. The eye test for me when watching him since the beginning never showed me much but a player that had talent but wasn't aggressive enough to be an elite scorer and lacked the ability to create his own shot.

Sounds like Redick.

[MasterIchiro]

I watched Ray Allen at UConn. He was not very aggressive his freshman year. He needed a year to learn how much better he was than the competition. I don't think young players are always aware of how gifted they are and how much faster and more athletic they are. Ben McLemore might need a year or two more at the most before he's comfortable as a go-to guy. He has more talent/potential than anyone in the draft to be that option. He just needs repetition. The Bobcats would be a perfect situation for him. He would be forgotten about by the NBA because nobody talks about us. He could rack up a high volume of shots here including misses and not be grilled for it. It won't be long before he's automatic.

[fatlever]

carrying over from the kemba thread....

if beal was a freshman this year, would he be rated higher than mclemore?

[James Gatz]

carrying over from the kemba thread....

if beal was a freshman this year, would he be rated higher than mclemore?

I think McLemore would be higher rated just due to height alone.