2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II

[Liver_Pooty]

In that case MKG and Biyombo need to play as well. Don't know if I can stomach another summer league like they had last season though. I was expecting them to dominate.

MKG & Biyombo are above summer league. They've ironed out their niche in the league at their respective areas. Now they both need to work on heavy offensive repetitions in the solace of a lonely gym with them and a individual personal trainer

And thats an understatement.

[mrknowitall215]

In that case MKG and Biyombo need to play as well. Don't know if I can stomach another summer league like they had last season though. I was expecting them to dominate.

MKG & Biyombo are above summer league. They've ironed out their niche in the league at their respective areas. Now they both need to work on heavy offensive repetitions in the solace of a lonely gym with them and a individual personal trainer

And thats an understatement.

How is that a understatement if they both have proved to be above average in particular aspects of the game, and have shown that they can hold their own on the floor? Both of MKG & Biyombo showed that they belong on the floor during that Heat series, Zeller on the other hand looked like a deer in headlights, and if I didn't know any better I would've thought he was only playing because a few players on the depth chart were injured

[Liver_Pooty]

MKG & Biyombo are above summer league. They've ironed out their niche in the league at their respective areas. Now they both need to work on heavy offensive repetitions in the solace of a lonely gym with them and a individual personal trainer

And thats an understatement.

How is that a understatement if they both have proved to be above average in particular aspects of the game, and have shown that they can hold their own on the floor? Both of MKG & Biyombo showed that they belong on the floor during that Heat series, Zeller on the other hand looked like a deer in headlights, and if I didn't know any better I would've thought he was only playing because a few players on the depth chart were injured

Meant them being locked in a gym working on their offensive games. Not SL.

[mrknowitall215]

Meant them being locked in a gym working on their offensive games. Not SL.

Oh, ok. Sorry about my misapprehension. MKG need to work on his midrange jump shot from 10 feet and gradually expand out to the corner 3-pointer by the end of the summer. Biyombo has a little more work to do, starting with post moves that involve catching a entry pass & finishing through contact, and when he's not doing that he should shoot 10-15 foot jump shots combined with free throw practice in heavy repetition

[Liver_Pooty]

Meant them being locked in a gym working on their offensive games. Not SL.

Oh, ok. Sorry about my misapprehension. MKG need to work on his midrange jump shot from 10 feet and gradually expand out to the corner 3-pointer by the end of the summer. Biyombo has a little more work to do, starting with post moves that involve catching a entry pass & finishing through contact, and when he's not doing that he should shoot 10-15 foot jump shots combined with free throw practice in heavy repetition

I think MKG has more work to do than Biyombo to be honest since hes a wing player. Biyombo already has something resembling a hook shot. MKG really has nothing other than driving to the rim where he gets dismantled with no call. I think MKG is another 2 years away from being able to make a corner 3. Id be thrilled if he can make a 15 footer with consistency next season. His upside is so great though that im willing to give him time.

[BigSlam]

So no love for Mitch McGary on the board?

[JDR720]

So no love for Mitch McGary on the board?

I'd take him in the 2nd round, good energy rebounder

[Liver_Pooty]

So no love for Mitch McGary on the board?

I was really high on him last year, but big men and back problems are an issue. I would easily trade our 45th pick and cash to move up to around 34 or so and nab him. He has big time potential. I also think it is absolutely ridiculous how an NCAA player can get banned for a year for smoking a joint. As if most of them in college don't at least try it or do it. Stupid as hell.

[Amateur Wannabe]

April 29, 2014
Dario Saric led his Cibona team to a historic Adriatic League Championship this past weekend, with wins over Red Star and Cedevita at Kombank arena in Belgrade. This was the first Adriatic League championship Cibona has ever won despite being inaugural members of the competition in 2001, and the first time a Croatian team has captured the title since KK Zadar won it in 2003 (back when only one Serbian team, Red Star, participated).

Saric, the reigning MVP of the league, who turned 20 years old just three weeks ago, was absolutely huge in the two game, single-elimination Final Four format, totaling 44 points, 26 rebounds, 13 assists and 5 blocks in 77 minutes, shooting a blistering 8-16 from beyond the arc. He was in turn named MVP of the Final Four as well.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz30VywJ6Kn
http://www.draftexpress.com

Not very familiar with this, but it sounds rather impressive.

Dario plays like he's 30, not 20. In final game he had 5 blocks, and threes were just going in (5/8). He is McBob-ish kind of player, but with much higher ceiling. He doesn't force too much, he lets the game come to him and runs his team in process. Shows much potential on midrange shooting, he's got better midrange than McBob already. I'd like to see McBob run his thing for another year, and Dario spending a year in Euroleague to get even better, then come to Hornets and upgrade McBob's role. By the way, this was his first season at any serious level of professional basketball - and he MVPed the Adriatic.

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Dario_Saric/KK_Cibona_VIP_Zagreb/172734

Rebounds 2/5 Whoever made this report That boy is insane rebounder. As I said here previously, his team would have been relegated, if it hadn't been for him. Half of their best players left, they had one center, were barely paid anything... and Dario took them to the trophy bigstyle, on away court. Trust me, he's a gem. Pure talent, basketball is running through his veins.

I'd say, to fully understand how good he is, you'd have to watch a game. Stats can't tell everything here. He is focal point of his tim, e.g. Big Al for Charlote.

[doc.end]

Well, as we have Clifford now who can hide poor defense, Saric should be ok. If we din't (have Clifford), Saric would be a turnstile.

[Amateur Wannabe]

I wouldn't call it poor defense. He had block party in Adriatic finals. Surely has yet to fully develop, but for his first pro season he was nothing short of great. I'd really like too see him play Euroleague first (hopefully with a decent team around him this time) and gets as sharp as possible before NBA. I'd always take him before Aaron Gordon for example, but I guess people just don't trust Euro talent too much.

[LamarMatic7]

I think I recall this prospect being discussed in this thread recently, now Jeff Goodman has Kristaps Porzingis in his latest mock to be drafted by Charlotte at #24th overall

sign me up for this!

I think I recall this prospect being discussed in this thread recently, now Jeff Goodman has Kristaps Porzingis in his latest mock to be drafted by Charlotte at #24th overall

I imagined whole (or most of) Latvian fan base getting on our side and finding out their top basketball journalist is actually a die hard fan already. The more spotlight for Lamar the better.

Haha, thanks, Doc. I don't know whether our board would be visited but people would definitely jump on the bandwagon. Many people in Latvia started following the NBA during Biedrins's best years and became huge Warriors fans who watched games live, during the night. Nowadays Biedrins's name is the equivalent to the word "rubbish" and people are ready to support the next generation of our players. And we do have some nice prospects, as I said before there are 3 Latvian players who have signed up for the draft. Porzingis is by far the best prospect though, alongside the already drafted 6-10 marksman Davis Bertans who has been stashed in Europe by the Spurs. He was involved in the Kawhi-Hill deal, and of course the fact that San Antonio drafted him makes me more confident about his potential (he basically looks like Austin Daye 2.0, as good or bad as it sounds).

[doc.end]

I wouldn't call it poor defense. He had block party in Adriatic finals. Surely has yet to fully develop, but for his first pro season he was nothing short of great. I'd really like too see him play Euroleague first (hopefully with a decent team around him this time) and gets as sharp as possible before NBA. I'd always take him before Aaron Gordon for example, but I guess people just don't trust Euro talent too much.

I admit I didn't watch any footage of him this year. But his defense was (the main thing) why he fell in mock drafts last year to the extent he didn't stay in the draft. I remember that after watching his DX scouting video back then I kind of didn't want.

[Eoghan]

So no love for Mitch McGary on the board?

I'd take him 24th if his back checked out. He'd very plausibly be the BPA then. He wouldn't play alongside Jefferson very well (think Boozer) but a future pairing of Mitch and Biz would be decent.

Well, as we have Clifford now who can hide poor defense, Saric should be ok. If we din't (have Clifford), Saric would be a turnstile.

To use a cliche, Saric is "a basketball player." He's really hard to compartmentalize. He sucks at jumping but if you combine the floor vision of McBob and the high motor of Zeller, you have Saric in a nutshell. If he gets that shooting consistent out to three, he could be a hell of a nice player.

[Eoghan]

So no love for Mitch McGary on the board?

I'd take him 24th if his back checked out. He'd very plausibly be the BPA then. He wouldn't play alongside Jefferson very well (think Boozer) but a future pairing of Mitch and Biz would be decent.

Well, as we have Clifford now who can hide poor defense, Saric should be ok. If we din't (have Clifford), Saric would be a turnstile.

To use a cliche, Saric is "a basketball player." He's really hard to compartmentalize. He sucks at jumping but if you combine the floor vision of McBob and the high motor of Zeller, you have Saric in a nutshell. If he gets that shooting consistent out to three, he could be a hell of a nice player.

[Liver_Pooty]

Nine NBA teams were in Badalona, Spain, scouting point guard Guillem Vives (Joventut Badalona) and center Walter Tavares (Gran Canaria). The Spurs sent general manager Rodney Buford and two scouts, Dave Telep and international scouting director Claudio Crippa. Clippers general manager Gary Sacks was there too. The other teams sending people to scout the players were the Bucks, Bobcats, Heat, Lakers, Hawks, Suns and Rockets

No idea who these guys are.

[JDR720]

Nine NBA teams were in Badalona, Spain, scouting point guard Guillem Vives (Joventut Badalona) and center Walter Tavares (Gran Canaria). The Spurs sent general manager Rodney Buford and two scouts, Dave Telep and international scouting director Claudio Crippa. Clippers general manager Gary Sacks was there too. The other teams sending people to scout the players were the Bucks, Bobcats, Heat, Lakers, Hawks, Suns and Rockets

No idea who these guys are.

No clue who Vives is, but Tavares is a big shot blocking/rebounding center

[JDR720]

just looked up the Vives dude, seems to be a pretty big (6-4 180lb) pass first PG

[mrknowitall215]

Nine NBA teams were in Badalona, Spain, scouting point guard Guillem Vives (Joventut Badalona) and center Walter Tavares (Gran Canaria). The Spurs sent general manager Rodney Buford and two scouts, Dave Telep and international scouting director Claudio Crippa. Clippers general manager Gary Sacks was there too. The other teams sending people to scout the players were the Bucks, Bobcats, Heat, Lakers, Hawks, Suns and Rockets

No idea who these guys are.

Rodney Buford or R.C. Buford?

...because the only Rodney Buford I know played for the Sixers a while ago, and I know damn well he's not the Spurs GM

[JDR720]

out of curiosity i found out who Charlotte has as the director of international scouting, its Adam Filippi and he can freaking shoot the ball, used to be a shooting coach and even has his own website
http://probasketballtraining.com/