Struggle Street - The Gary Neal Thread

[mrknowitall215]

He's Ben Gordon with a better contract and a overrated perception since he played for the holier than thou Spurs with Popovich during a playoff run and even that might be generous because I think Gordon is better, even right now.

He hasn't reached the dark depths of Charlotte Ben Gordon but there are night where he gets close. Can't believe we kept this bum over CDR.

Ben Gordon might be having a better season in Orlando right now. And I'd take Gordon during the 1st half of the Dunlap season before the humbling over this Neal guy we got now.

Ben Gordon 'is' having a better season in Orlando this season than Gary Neal is having in Charlotte

[fatlever]

If there were any young guards who were playing half decent I'm sure we'd be seeing less of Neal and even Henderson for that matter. PJ is shooting 28%, Taylor isn't fully back yet, MKG is just now getting healthy and Lance was mostly a train wreck until he got hurt.

That's not to say that Clifford doesn't ride Neal too much and for too long of stretches, because he does, but we at least have to agree that there have been few options better, even when Neal has been awful.

The one option that Clifford has not done is playing Marvin more at small forward to give more minutes to Biz, Zeller, Vonleh and even Max (on nights when he is needed).

That being said, I do believe that Neal plays more than he should because of our serious need for a 2nd ball handler in the lineup. Lance and Kemba were working and the former isn't an option right now. McRoberts is gone. You can't seriously play Kemba and Roberts together for real minutes. Sadly, Henderson, PJ, MKG, Marvin and Zeller are not going to help at all in the ball handling and play making duties and Kemba can't do it all.

Once again, blame it on the lack of talent and poor roster composition filled with one-dimensional players.

[MasterIchiro]

poor roster composition

[LamarMatic7]

Last 15 games of Gary Neal:

8.5ppg, 2.9/9.7 FG (29.7%), 0.9/3.7 3PT (23.2%).

just brutal. if his shot isn't falling, you really might as well give our own Hairston a chance to chuck the same shots.

[LamarMatic7]

to put than into perspective, you really need to loosen the filters to find anything resembling that fora full season.

Austin Daye really is the closest one, with a season of 41 games, .322 FG, .210 3P. the rest have a dozen or so games.

as for his whole season, he's in the company of:

washed up Gilbert Arenas (2010-11), rookie Kemba Walker, Warriors John Starks (1998-99), the most erratic player ever - a chucking and old Mad Max (1999-00) and the current MCW season.

filters - FG% worse than 37%, more than 9 FGAs, 3PT% worse than 31%, more than 2 3PAs.

[TheKingofSting]

Biz does all of this in only 20 minutes? Don't tease me Biz!

[Liver_Pooty]

Last 15 games of Gary Neal:

8.5ppg, 2.9/9.7 FG (29.7%), 0.9/3.7 3PT (23.2%).

just brutal. if his shot isn't falling, you really might as well give our own Hairston a chance to chuck the same shots.

Hes just been absolutely pitiful lately.

Agreed about John Starks. Talk about an erratic player, damn.

[LamarMatic7]

Last 15 games of Gary Neal:

8.5ppg, 2.9/9.7 FG (29.7%), 0.9/3.7 3PT (23.2%).

just brutal. if his shot isn't falling, you really might as well give our own Hairston a chance to chuck the same shots.

Hes just been absolutely pitiful lately.

Agreed about John Starks. Talk about an erratic player, damn.

I actually attributed it to Vernon Maxwell. But, damn, you're right. I might as well could have said the same about Starks.

[BeesWax]

Maybe we can use him as the expiring contract that Boston wants in the Rivers deal. Problem is I don't want Farmar either.

[nickforthreee]

gary Neal & a 2nd rounder for jeremy lamb

[mrknowitall215]

gary Neal & a 2nd rounder for jeremy lamb

Without a doubt in my mind, I think Lamb is a wing player just waiting to exploit his talent & skills in the right situation where he has a lengthy leash similar to Gerald Green has had a breakthrough but better

[nickforthreee]

gary Neal & a 2nd rounder for jeremy lamb

Without a doubt in my mind, I think Lamb is a wing player just waiting to exploit his talent & skills in the right situation where he has a lengthy leash similar to Gerald Green has had a breakthrough but better

couldn't agree more, & I've always felt this was the perfect fit. kemba will bring out the best in him I really hope he gets here somehow

[DY_nasty]

i'll take farmar

gary Neal & a 2nd rounder for jeremy lamb

Without a doubt in my mind, I think Lamb is a wing player just waiting to exploit his talent & skills in the right situation where he has a lengthy leash similar to Gerald Green has had a breakthrough but better

his team just traded for dion waiters

they see lamb every day in practice and think that dion waiters is better

the jeremy lamb dream is dead. he's trash lol

[nickforthreee]

i'll take farmar

gary Neal & a 2nd rounder for jeremy lamb

Without a doubt in my mind, I think Lamb is a wing player just waiting to exploit his talent & skills in the right situation where he has a lengthy leash similar to Gerald Green has had a breakthrough but better

his team just traded for dion waiters

they see lamb every day in practice and think that dion waiters is better

the jeremy lamb dream is dead. he's trash lol

dumb statement. the NBA is all about opportunity & finding the right fit. sometimes a player needs a different team/coach to break through to them.

Scott brooks is trash, not jeremy lamb.

look at shabazz Muhammad, breaking out now that rick adelman doesn't have him on a leash. everyone thought he was a scrub last season.

when Lance was Indy & he made the choking sign to lebron while he was getting no playing time everyone was like "lol at that scrub he doesn't even play" & a couple seasons later he's a borderline allstar because he got his opportunity.

lamb has as much offensive talent as almost anyone in the league. talent isn't his problem.

[catch20two]

i'll take farmar

Without a doubt in my mind, I think Lamb is a wing player just waiting to exploit his talent & skills in the right situation where he has a lengthy leash similar to Gerald Green has had a breakthrough but better

his team just traded for dion waiters

they see lamb every day in practice and think that dion waiters is better

the jeremy lamb dream is dead. he's trash lol

dumb statement. the NBA is all about opportunity & finding the right fit. sometimes a player needs a different team/coach to break through to them.

Scott brooks is trash, not jeremy lamb.

look at shabazz Muhammad, breaking out now that rick adelman doesn't have him on a leash. everyone thought he was a scrub last season.

when Lance was Indy & he made the choking sign to lebron while he was getting no playing time everyone was like "lol at that scrub he doesn't even play" & a couple seasons later he's a borderline allstar because he got his opportunity.

lamb has as much offensive talent as almost anyone in the league. talent isn't his problem.

Lamb has had more 20 point games than Lance this season as a DNP-CD. He just need new scenery and to get away from that stupid ass coach Scott Brooks.

[DY_nasty]

brooks may be a terrible x and o's guy but he's developed enough talent to be taken seriously in that regard. if he feels it isn't there, then its not there.

[nickforthreee]

brooks may be a terrible x and o's guy but he's developed enough talent to be taken seriously in that regard. if he feels it isn't there, then its not there.

you think james harden would be the player he is today if he was still in OKC? nope.

[LofJ]

I think the trade for Waiters was probably more for Jackson insurance than it was finding a replacement for Lamb. I'd be surprised if OKC resigns Jackson this offseason, he's going to want more than OKC is willing to give.

[DY_nasty]

brooks may be a terrible x and o's guy but he's developed enough talent to be taken seriously in that regard. if he feels it isn't there, then its not there.

you think james harden would be the player he is today if he was still in OKC? nope.

of all the possible responses, this is by far the dumbest lol

[nickforthreee]

brooks may be a terrible x and o's guy but he's developed enough talent to be taken seriously in that regard. if he feels it isn't there, then its not there.

you think james harden would be the player he is today if he was still in OKC? nope.

of all the possible responses, this is by far the dumbest lol

how so? I'm not saying lamb is james harden or even close. but look back at hardens time in OKC, he was always viewed as a good player, sixth man of the year candidate. no one ever expected him to breakout and be a superstar.

he never started in OKC because brooks only wants a defensive minded player starting at SG next to westbrook & Durant.

he was never able to flourish completely offensively because he had 2 stars ahead of him in the pecking order.

he went to Houston & became the man, he would have never gotten the recognition he's getting now as the best 2 guard in the league coming off of the OKC bench.

Lamb could come here & be given an opportunity to flourish, give him many more shots & minutes than he recieved in OKC, don't keep him on a short leash, let him play through mistakes & defensive lapses to learn from them & get better. a couple seasons later you could be looking at an allstar caliber shooting guard.