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Post#142 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun May 25, 2014 1:16 am

To use contrast, I think Nik Stauskas will be the shooting guard version of Chandler Parsons in the NBA. I like his skill sets and believe he'll make for a very productive player in the league. My only concern is can he be as productive of a player off the ball for Charlotte with a lesser usage as he was as a de facto point guard in his sophomore season at Michigan. I understand that he's great in catch-and-shoot situations, but does not having the ball in his hands as much as the primary ball handler take away from his assertiveness

As a fan of Trey Burke, I watched a lot of Michigan games during Stauskas' freshman year, and only occasionally during Stauskas' sophomore year after Burke's departure
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Post#143 » by BeesWax » Sun May 25, 2014 1:27 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:To use contrast, I think Nik Stauskas will be the shooting guard version of Chandler Parsons in the NBA. I like his skill sets and believe he'll make for a very productive player in the league. My only concern is can he be as productive of a player off the ball for Charlotte with a lesser usage as he was as a de facto point guard in his sophomore season at Michigan. I understand that he's great in catch-and-shoot situations, but does not having the ball in his hands as much as the primary ball handler take away from his assertiveness

As a fan of Trey Burke, I watched a lot of Michigan games during Stauskas' freshman year, and only occasionally during Stauskas' sophomore year after Burke's departure

His freshman season he was still very good percentages wise. If you give the kid shots he makes them. If you put it in his hands he can even get the ball to others in the right spots. The more I dig into this kid the more his numbers really separate him. He has everything you want in a shooting guard. His defense needs work but he has the athletic ability to be able to defend and we have a coach that can teach it.

I think he would be great playing off Kemba drives and Al double teams. Also he can run the pick and roll with McRoberts and get some great chances for both of them.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#144 » by MasterIchiro » Sun May 25, 2014 1:31 am

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mrknowitall215 wrote:To use contrast, I think Nik Stauskas will be the shooting guard version of Chandler Parsons in the NBA. I like his skill sets and believe he'll make for a very productive player in the league. My only concern is can he be as productive of a player off the ball for Charlotte with a lesser usage as he was as a de facto point guard in his sophomore season at Michigan. I understand that he's great in catch-and-shoot situations, but does not having the ball in his hands as much as the primary ball handler take away from his assertiveness

As a fan of Trey Burke, I watched a lot of Michigan games during Stauskas' freshman year, and only occasionally during Stauskas' sophomore year after Burke's departure

His freshman season he was still very good percentages wise. If you give the kid shots he makes them. If you put it in his hands he can even get the ball to others in the right spots. The more I dig into this kid the more his numbers really separate him. He has everything you want in a shooting guard. His defense needs work but he has the athletic ability to be able to defend and we have a coach that can teach it.

I think he would be great playing off Kemba drives and Al double teams. Also he can run the pick and roll with McRoberts and get some great chances for both of them.


I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this kind of stuff. I hope the blurb about the Hornets definitely seriously considering Harris and Young is a decoy and that they're trying to get people off their scent about Nik Stauskas, especially with the Kings having their 'FOR SALE' billboard plastered across the NBA at pick 8.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#145 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun May 25, 2014 1:35 am

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mrknowitall215 wrote:To use contrast, I think Nik Stauskas will be the shooting guard version of Chandler Parsons in the NBA. I like his skill sets and believe he'll make for a very productive player in the league. My only concern is can he be as productive of a player off the ball for Charlotte with a lesser usage as he was as a de facto point guard in his sophomore season at Michigan. I understand that he's great in catch-and-shoot situations, but does not having the ball in his hands as much as the primary ball handler take away from his assertiveness

As a fan of Trey Burke, I watched a lot of Michigan games during Stauskas' freshman year, and only occasionally during Stauskas' sophomore year after Burke's departure

His freshman season he was still very good percentages wise. If you give the kid shots he makes them. If you put it in his hands he can even get the ball to others in the right spots. The more I dig into this kid the more his numbers really separate him. He has everything you want in a shooting guard. His defense needs work but he has the athletic ability to be able to defend and we have a coach that can teach it.

I think he would be great playing off Kemba drives and Al double teams. Also he can run the pick and roll with McRoberts and get some great chances for both of them.


That's precisely why I'm almost completely positive that Stauskas will be productive and the reason why he's on my shortlist
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#146 » by MasterIchiro » Sun May 25, 2014 1:39 am

Nik Stauskas moving up:

While the basketball skills are the primary evaluation piece for the NBA draft, it’s much tougher to evaluate desire, work ethic and passion.

Stauskas proved he was a better athlete than most expected in the athletic testing. He finished fourth or fifth among shooting guards in most events, including showing off a max vertical of 35.5 inches, which will improve his stock.


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Post#147 » by JDR720 » Sun May 25, 2014 1:41 am

I really cant wait until Charlotte starts working out players
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Post#148 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun May 25, 2014 1:42 am

Would be nice having a SG that can create off the dribble unlike Henderson.
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Post#149 » by JDR720 » Sun May 25, 2014 1:43 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Would be nice having a SG that can create off the dribble unlike Henderson.

Nik is basically the complete opposite of Henderson
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Post#150 » by BeesWax » Sun May 25, 2014 2:02 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Would be nice having a SG that can create off the dribble unlike Henderson.

Nik is basically the complete opposite of Henderson

I am afraid he is going to pull an Oladipo and rise out of our range. Last year I was excited to have Oladipo as an option at this time of the year then by draft time I knew he was gone before us.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#151 » by MasterIchiro » Sun May 25, 2014 2:13 am

jdm3 wrote:
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Liver_Pooty wrote:Would be nice having a SG that can create off the dribble unlike Henderson.

Nik is basically the complete opposite of Henderson

I am afraid he is going to pull an Oladipo and rise out of our range. Last year I was excited to have Oladipo as an option at this time of the year then by draft time I knew he was gone before us.


Top 4 is out of the question but the rest is open. Let's look at them.

Jazz - 5 (Hayward seems redundant)

Celtics - 6 (very small front court, major issues there)
LAL- 7 (Marcus Smart)
Kings- 8 (advertising this pick for trade)

I'd say the Kings are the biggest threat.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#152 » by JDR720 » Sun May 25, 2014 2:14 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Nik is basically the complete opposite of Henderson

I am afraid he is going to pull an Oladipo and rise out of our range. Last year I was excited to have Oladipo as an option at this time of the year then by draft time I knew he was gone before us.


Top 4 is out of the question but the rest is open. Let's look at them.

Jazz - 5 (Hayward seems redundant)

Celtics - 6 (very small front court, major issues there)
LAL- 7 (Marcus Smart)
Kings- 8 (advertising this pick for trade)

I'd say the Kings are the biggest threat.

i dont even think the kings are a threat because they just drafted McLemore
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Post#153 » by BeesWax » Sun May 25, 2014 2:15 am

JDR720 wrote:
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jdm3 wrote:I am afraid he is going to pull an Oladipo and rise out of our range. Last year I was excited to have Oladipo as an option at this time of the year then by draft time I knew he was gone before us.


Top 4 is out of the question but the rest is open. Let's look at them.

Jazz - 5 (Hayward seems redundant)

Celtics - 6 (very small front court, major issues there)
LAL- 7 (Marcus Smart)
Kings- 8 (advertising this pick for trade)

I'd say the Kings are the biggest threat.

i dont even think the kings are a threat because they just drafted McLemore

I think he means as a trade out to someone who wants Nik. Scares me that he could jump ahead of us.
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Post#154 » by BeesWax » Sun May 25, 2014 2:20 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Nik is basically the complete opposite of Henderson

I am afraid he is going to pull an Oladipo and rise out of our range. Last year I was excited to have Oladipo as an option at this time of the year then by draft time I knew he was gone before us.


Top 4 is out of the question but the rest is open. Let's look at them.

Jazz - 5 (Hayward seems redundant)

Celtics - 6 (very small front court, major issues there)
LAL- 7 (Marcus Smart)
Kings- 8 (advertising this pick for trade)

I'd say the Kings are the biggest threat.

I could see the Jazz too. I would gladly take both Hayward and Nik here. There are 96 minutes to divide between MKG, Hayward and Nik. Everybody takes 32 and does what they do best and all can play well off each other since both MKG and Hayward can defend the SG and SF spots. I know we won't use them exclusively but there are enough minutes for all three if we wanted to use them as a wing trio. Also with. McRoberts we could play all three at once and put MKG on some PGs for some stretches.
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Post#155 » by SpearNMgicHelmt » Sun May 25, 2014 4:18 am

jdm3 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:To use contrast, I think Nik Stauskas will be the shooting guard version of Chandler Parsons in the NBA. I like his skill sets and believe he'll make for a very productive player in the league. My only concern is can he be as productive of a player off the ball for Charlotte with a lesser usage as he was as a de facto point guard in his sophomore season at Michigan. I understand that he's great in catch-and-shoot situations, but does not having the ball in his hands as much as the primary ball handler take away from his assertiveness

As a fan of Trey Burke, I watched a lot of Michigan games during Stauskas' freshman year, and only occasionally during Stauskas' sophomore year after Burke's departure

His freshman season he was still very good percentages wise. If you give the kid shots he makes them. If you put it in his hands he can even get the ball to others in the right spots. The more I dig into this kid the more his numbers really separate him. He has everything you want in a shooting guard. His defense needs work but he has the athletic ability to be able to defend and we have a coach that can teach it.

I think he would be great playing off Kemba drives and Al double teams. Also he can run the pick and roll with McRoberts and get some great chances for both of them.


Stauskas seems like the perfect fit for us given our current roster, plus he's not a reach at #9.

Everybody else would benefit from having this kid on the floor. Teams would be punished for doubling Al. We'd have another ball handler to take some pressure off of Kemba. Things will open up for MKG to drive, plus having more scoring punch out there will allow him to play more minutes. And McRoberts will have somebody dependable to whip crafty passes to for the 3.

One trouble our offense has had is that we'll do the right things to get somebody an open shot, but then they turn it down because they're not a good enough shooter, which then ultimately leads to somebody taking a bad shot when the clock runs down (usually Kemba).

Stauskas would hopefully fix that.
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Post#156 » by W_HAMILTON » Sun May 25, 2014 5:22 am

I like the videos of him showing off his handles and athleticism.

At the same time, I remember seeing some random video of Matt Carroll dribbling in practice somewhere and he looked like some street baller; unfortunately, those sorts of skills didn't exactly translate into the NBA very well.

As good as Stauskas looks in his training videos, I'm worried that some of the skills that he shows off in those videos won't exactly translate to the NBA.

Either way, he does seem to be very motivated to train and improve himself, and that is always a good sign.
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Post#157 » by W_HAMILTON » Sun May 25, 2014 5:25 am

MasterIchiro wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this kind of stuff. I hope the blurb about the Hornets definitely seriously considering Harris and Young is a decoy and that they're trying to get people off their scent about Nik Stauskas, especially with the Kings having their 'FOR SALE' billboard plastered across the NBA at pick 8.


Hmm, I wonder if there is anything we could give them to get that #8 pick? I'd love to have a similar draft (pick-wise) to the one where we get Biyombo and Walker.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#158 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun May 25, 2014 6:02 am

If any team is going to trade up and take a player it will be Lavine. Hes a massive risk/bust potential that a borderline team like Phoenix would use their picks to get.
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Post#159 » by Radu_Hornets » Sun May 25, 2014 7:15 am

I really like Stauskas because He looks "Aware" ... I don't know how to explain myself.

He seams to have a really high BBIQ
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Post#160 » by Dr Positivity » Sun May 25, 2014 7:18 am

He's the best offensive talent in the whole draft. Not only is his shooting/passing combination very rare, but he's one of the best at attacking the basket for perimeter players in the class. He could be as good at driving as Manu Ginobili is. Plays like :20 and 2:15 in the "Nik Stauskas torches Iowa" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBRnDM_a_TU are that rare, players don't just get into the paint past traffic that easily like they're guys lie Harden and Wade. A lot of successful drives in college the defender is staying in front of them but funneling them, or it's off an open lane from an overeager closeout. At :20 he drives through an entire defense in position without a pick. I'm convinced he will be a plus NBA slasher at the next level, the only possible concern is he's not that strong (which is the biggest reason Jamal Crawford never put it together more driving despite his handles and athleticism), but his frame looks like it can add weight

IMO the way the NBA is rating Jabari Parker who is considered the best offensive prospect and Nik Stauskas is because they are slow to adapt. Jabari is a 1985 20ppg SF in 2014. The problem is in the modern NBA you don't want a SF who hangs around at 15-20 feet posting up. First, it leads to inefficient shots, Jabari's fancy post fadeaways won't be valued if they go in 35% of the time. Secondly, a SF hanging around the midrange area is bad for spacing in today's NBA. Third, it probably leads to the ball stopping. Finally, with all the salivating about a player like Jabari "creating his own shot" from 15-20 Carmelo style, one of the problems with this is midrange shots barely need to be created anymore because teams are leaving them open. As a Raptors fan I can say while Derozan is one of the highest usage midrange scorers in the league, he's barely doing any work "creating" those shots. They're open and he takes them, or he's pretty good at making a dribble or two to set it up, but it's not like he needs an advanced "shot creation" skillset to do it. There's plenty of players who can "create" midrange shots nowadays just by dribbling into it. Shabazz Napier's skillset may be as midrange volume friendly as Jabari's, just by dribbling into the paint and pulling up however many times he wants.

Anyways, the start of the "who the best offensive prospect is" convo should start with how good a player is at driving to the rim, taking 3s, or creating for others, before finally considering the midrange. That's why I think the media considering Jabari the best offensive prospect in the draft is getting it all wrong because it's unclear whether he'll be great at any of driving to the basket, hitting 3s, or passing. But I think Stauskas combination of those 3 things is the best in the draft unless Exum starts bombing 3s or something or Zach Lavine becomes insane
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