Fried Chicken and Bonghits: The Al Jefferson Thread 2.0

[Eoghan]

Hes probably worth 5-8 mil/year, but he will probably get 10-12. I hope we aren't the team paying him next year regardless but its probably happening.

Lol 5 a year is kind of low don't you think?

I wouldn't pay him minimum wage.

~9M is what he should make.

[Liver_Pooty]

Looking forward to another round of sig bets in the offseason. I hit Lance's right on the button last year.

[BlackOutBuzz]

$5m is pretty absurd, that's Pachulia and Trevor Booker money.

Wherever he is he'll make 8 figures next year, I mean there are 28 bigs making at least $10 million.

[Liver_Pooty]

$5m is pretty absurd, that's Pachulia and Trevor Booker money.

Wherever he is he'll make 8 figures next year, I mean there are 28 bigs making at least $10 million.

Exactly.

[catch20two]

Looking forward to another round of sig bets in the offseason. I hit Lance's right on the button last year.

He ain't opting out. If he opt out then he's a goner. No way we re-sign him based on his current play.

[Liver_Pooty]

Looking forward to another round of sig bets in the offseason. I hit Lance's right on the button last year.

He ain't opting out. If he opt out then he's a goner. No way we re-sign him based on his current play.

Great. We can only hope so.

[TheKingofSting]

He'd be a fool to leave that money on the table but lets hope he does.

[yosemiteben]

Looking forward to another round of sig bets in the offseason. I hit Lance's right on the button last year.

He ain't opting out. If he opt out then he's a goner. No way we re-sign him based on his current play.

At this stage in his career he should be getting all the guaranteed money he can. Why would he not opt out? He could get a multi-year deal that triples the amount of guaranteed money he has coming his way if he opts in.

[MasterIchiro]

Al knows he doesn't really have to motivate until next season, and he's playing like he's not trying for a longterm contract right now, let himself get out of shape, not playing D, loafing around. I feel he will opt in and turn it on next year. I also feel Hendo will opt in but that is for another thread. He's down to 42% shooting and he brings nothing else to the offense and is above average on D but not elite.

Next year we will have 39 million in expiring contracts. That space won't matter if free agents don't want to sign here but we can always trade those contracts next year to teams angling for big fish free agents in 2016. So even if we have to suffer through one more year of alfense and return nearly the exact same roster, the 2016 team could be fun. Yes we just lost 2 years of our lives in the Al era with 1 more owed but most of you guys are younger and you don't value time the same way as someone who is much closer to dying.

[MasterIchiro]

Cho is asking you for one more year of patience. But he is asking me to fast-forward one year closer to death.

[JDR720]

I think its 50/50 whether he opts in or not, pretty strong FA center class this year with Gasol and Jordan

[yosemiteben]

Not sure how going to the playoffs last year was losing a year but the 21 win season the year before was not. It's also cool how you've written off a season with thirty games left.

I also think you seriously underestimate the value of guaranteed money to a thirty year old NBA big man. If his plan is to play for a big multi-year contract when he is 31 years old, that's a bad plan.

[MasterIchiro]

I think its 50/50 whether he opts in or not, pretty strong FA center class this year with Gasol and Jordan

The man has 13.5 in the bank, thinks highly of himself and likely believes he can save his energy for now and preserve his body (never bangs around this year for boards), until the spotlight is really on him next year. He knows he can turn it on when he wants to and has to. In Al's mind, I don't believe he feels he's in a contract year or else he'd be playing with more urgency. When Biz put his spot on the line, that caused a blip, but that wasn't Al's plan (for Biz to push him before year 3). Al is lazing it out this year. If his market is 3 years 10 million/per that's 30 million. He's already halfway there after next year and likely feels he can have a great year next year and get to 30 million in just 2 years. The calculus does not work in our favor.

[LofJ]

I don't see either Gasol or Jordan going to a new team but crazier things have happened. That said San Antonio, the Knicks, and the Lakers are all going to be in the market for a big. Outside of those two plus Monroe and Asik those are the only starter quality bigs that will be available. Someone is going to strike out, especially if Gasol/Jordan stay put. It's a good market for Jefferson this year for that reason.

Edit: Toronto will be in the market for a big too, although I doubt they'll go for a big money guy with Valanciunas there. Milwaukee needs one as well, but who knows what they want to do.

[yosemiteben]

He would be one major injury from reducing his potential guaranteed money for the duration of his career by 60-70% if he opts in. There's no way that does not factor in.

[Liver_Pooty]

Jefferson is opting out for a longer deal. I'll put a sig bet on it right now. His agent would be stupid not to talk him into it.

Don't know what that longer deal might be, but im guessing 11/33 with a team option on the third year.

Edit: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if were the team that gives him that kind of deal. Not surprised at all.

[LofJ]

Jefferson is opting out for a longer deal. I'll put a sig bet on it right now. His agent would be stupid not to talk him into it.

Don't know what that longer deal might be, but im guessing 11/33 with a team option on the third year.

Edit: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if were the team that gives him that kind of deal. Not surprised at all.

What has he done to earn an extension from us? He's half-assed it all year.

[Liver_Pooty]

Jefferson is opting out for a longer deal. I'll put a sig bet on it right now. His agent would be stupid not to talk him into it.

Don't know what that longer deal might be, but im guessing 11/33 with a team option on the third year.

Edit: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if were the team that gives him that kind of deal. Not surprised at all.

What has he done to earn an extension from us? He's half-assed it all year.

Nothing, but I would not put it against our front office at all.

[MasterIchiro]

Jefferson is opting out for a longer deal. I'll put a sig bet on it right now. His agent would be stupid not to talk him into it.

Don't know what that longer deal might be, but im guessing 11/33 with a team option on the third year.

Edit: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if were the team that gives him that kind of deal. Not surprised at all.

Al likes it here, can't beat 13.5 and is good at turning it on when he has to and lazing the rest of the time to insulate himself from burnout and/or injury.

Which team is going to give a 31 year old hobbled center 11 million per year? He'd be lucky to get 10 per and 3. 13.5 is a huge chunk of that and he likes it here.

[Liver_Pooty]

Jefferson is opting out for a longer deal. I'll put a sig bet on it right now. His agent would be stupid not to talk him into it.

Don't know what that longer deal might be, but im guessing 11/33 with a team option on the third year.

Edit: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if were the team that gives him that kind of deal. Not surprised at all.

Al likes it here, can't beat 13.5 and is good at turning it on when he has to and lazing the rest of the time to insulate himself from burnout and/or injury.

Which team is going to give a 31 year old hobbled center 11 million per year? He'd be lucky to get 10 per and 3. 13.5 is a huge chunk of that and he likes it here.

Like I said, Ill make a sig bet right now that he opts out. 13.5 right now or a longer contract with more money. Up to him. Its a piss poor free agent market next year with teams with some money to spend. They will spend it.