Rookie of the Year: The Marco Belinelli Thread

[BigSlam]

what more could there be though?

Who knows, it's really odd. To me the big question is why does it need to be structured like this? Why not include all the pieces involved?

Doesn't Lamb have some sort of poison pill provision that prevents him from being traded until July or something?

I could be completely wrong.


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[yosemiteben]

this probably is all the pieces involved. they view marco as a cheaper lee replacement and we know they liked him quite a bit from last offseason.

Definitely possible, but why earlier in the day were they trying to create space, only to a couple hours later take on salary?

[Kembastockton]

There is more though towards the bottom of the page Cho says he is still in trade discussions he cannot discuss. Cho is not through. He can't draft worth much, but he can trade his back end off.



http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article85642502.html

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

The reason it couldn't go down last night was that it has to wait until Lamb's salary goes up or the Hornets clear space, neither of which will happen right away.

[powerforward]

Well I think I am the only one that is ok with this trade, so I am probably wrong.
He is better than who we would have probably drafted at 22 but I am worried that this means no lee return.

Here is a highlight for him from last year, maybe we will see more of this instead of the rest of his season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOQuRvlsMr0

[Diop]

this probably is all the pieces involved. they view marco as a cheaper lee replacement and we know they liked him quite a bit from last offseason.

Definitely possible, but why earlier in the day were they trying to create space, only to a couple hours later take on salary?

Couldn't create space, so gave up on Lee and replace him with cheaper Marco. Makes it easier to sign Lin and Marv?

[JDR720]

if we are trading Lamb + 22 for Marco, i dont see how that gets us anywhere. or the kings for that matter, they drafted Richardson who is basically Lamb 2.0 and have McLemore.

stats from last season.

Lamb-9/4/1 on 45/30/72
Marco- 10/2/2 on 38/30/83

[yosemiteben]

The reason it couldn't go down last night was that it has to wait until Lamb's salary goes up or the Hornets clear space, neither of which will happen right away.

Is that true? I thought you used average of current plus extension, which is right around $6M. Seems like it would have gone through.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I'm OK with this too. I'm not jumping for joy, but the move makes sense to me.

Lee has always been really unlikely to be back, and he's a guy I really like too. Lin is the one I worry about the most, in terms of being affected by this trade. I do think that the team will try Beli and Batum on the floor together.

[predators]

I can't help thinking we wanted to spend the #9 pick on stauskas a couple years ago and his ceiling is bellinelli.

[powerforward]

I don't know how this helps bringing Lin back but it looks like it probably means no lee, but if we bring back batum, Lin and marvin I'm good with that.

Kemba/Lin
Batum/ Belinelli
MKG/ Batum/Belinelli
Marvin/Frank/MKG/Batum
Cody/ Frank/ Hopefully some rim defender

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

The reason it couldn't go down last night was that it has to wait until Lamb's salary goes up or the Hornets clear space, neither of which will happen right away.

Is that true? I thought you used average of current plus extension, which is right around $6M. Seems like it would have gone through.

The Hornets are technically over the cap until they start renouncing folks due to all the cap holds. Until his salary actually goes up Lamb is technically a poison pill contract (#90 on the CBA FAQ). This mean that Charlotte would have treated Lamb's salary as roughly $3M in terms of what they sent out, but the Kings would have treated it as the average. The deal would still work from their side, but Charlotte wouldn't have opened enough space to take Beli back. After Lamb's salary officially goes up he's not a poison pill and the salaries match well for a trade.

I also take into account that the pre-draft rumors were Lamb + 22 for space. This was the next best thing for the Hornets, and likely means that Lin is gone.

[LofJ]

It's probably dumb but I'm going to hold out hope that we will receive a draft pack back. And if not that we should at the very least be moving a contract.

[yosemiteben]

This mean that Charlotte would have treated Lamb's salary as roughly $3M in terms of what they sent out, but the Kings would have treated it as the average. The deal would still work from their side, but Charlotte wouldn't have opened enough space to take Beli back.

Ah, there we go.

[BlackOutBuzz]

The Lamb contract is a great point that had slipped my mind. I suppose he COULD be a part 2 of this deal, but likely to a third team as I'm not sure Sacramento would want/need him.

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[BigSlam]

what more could there be though?

Who knows, it's really odd. To me the big question is why does it need to be structured like this? Why not include all the pieces involved?

Doesn't Lamb have some sort of poison pill provision that prevents him from being traded until July or something?

I could be completely wrong.


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[Kembastockton]

The reason it couldn't go down last night was that it has to wait until Lamb's salary goes up or the Hornets clear space, neither of which will happen right away.

Is that true? I thought you used average of current plus extension, which is right around $6M. Seems like it would have gone through.

The Hornets are technically over the cap until they start renouncing folks due to all the cap holds. Until his salary actually goes up Lamb is technically a poison pill contract (#90 on the CBA FAQ). This mean that Charlotte would have treated Lamb's salary as roughly $3M in terms of what they sent out, but the Kings would have treated it as the average. The deal would still work from their side, but Charlotte wouldn't have opened enough space to take Beli back. After Lamb's salary officially goes up he's not a poison pill and the salaries match well for a trade.

I also take into account that the pre-draft rumors were Lamb + 22 for space. This was the next best thing for the Hornets, and likely means that Lin is gone.

Lin has already said that he wants to start. There is no realistic reason to expect him back.

[MKGsMotor]

Why in the hell is a contract that we just freaking signed 8 months ago now destroying our team. Does our front office not **** think

[JDR720]

Why in the hell is a contract that we just freaking signed 8 months ago now destroying our team. Does our front office not **** think

it shows how bad moves from one offseason can impact you for years.

this goes all the way back to the Lance/Hayward offseason.

[MKGsMotor]

Why in the hell is a contract that we just freaking signed 8 months ago now destroying our team. Does our front office not **** think

it shows how bad moves from one offseason can impact you for years.

this goes all the way back to the Lance/Hayward offseason.

Yea but that's just a history of bad moves. Signing lamb when we did was a separate bad move by itself. Not waiting to see who is on the board at 22 and Chu busting his nut early for Marco was a separate bad move