Offseason 2025 Thread

[Rich4114]

That's a no from me dawg, on Jalen Green. We have plenty of low IQ players as it is and he's not nearly consistent enough to warrant that type of salary. For anyone saying Ace Bailey is a bad fit on the Hornets but then suggests Jalen Green... c'mon bro

[fatlever]

no interest in green in any scenario. thats just not what melo/miller need to bring out their best selves.

[SWedd523]

Just be patient guys

[EmpireFalls]

Just be patient guys

There are hundreds of NC kids who were born, raised, graduated high school and college, and have even been married and become parents since we last won a playoff series. 23 years and counting. Worst part is, it’s definitely gonna be 24 next year too!

[Diop]

if a trade happened and someone wanted us to take on Jalen Green because of his terrible playoffs would you do it?

he is an athletic, plus defender who had a solid season. His decision making can be questionable though.

do you grab young talent when you can, hoping you can iron out the warts?

Jalen Green is known as a poor defender, not sure where you are getting plus defender from.

I was going by other posters on the trade board and his defensive win share.

[JustBuzzin]

Charlotte has to get serious at some point about trying to win games. This new ownership/staff is preaching a long-term vision.

I just want to go to a playoff game again. That's all I'm asking for!

[fatlever]

The **** up thing about that 2002 playoff win was it was painful and bitter. The team had already packed and the agreement was made to move to new Orleans as soon the season ended. Most local hornets fans I knew were too pissed or too apathetic to care. Hardly any local fans followed or rooted for them after they moved and most quit before when it was finalized.

There was a piece of me almost rooting for them to lose that series. Mash had weirdly disappeared because of his vertigo issues. And seeing baron go off knowing he'd be doing it in New Orleans next season was ruff.

It was not a fulfilling series win for most of us.

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[yosemiteben]

Just be patient guys

We have seen the show before of trying to jump start a rebuild - we did it with Big Al and we did it with Hayward. What we haven't seen here in Charlotte is holistically rebuilding from a position of strength in terms of prospects and draft assets, which is where we are now.

We just completely turned over our FO and our coaching staff, so it's not like anyone is saying we shouldn't make changes. I don't really think anyone is saying "let's not trade those picks we got, we should slow things down." But yeah IMO we should give the coaching staff and FO more than a year with the roster and the assets they've acquired before complaining about having to be patient.

[SWedd523]

Since 88-89 (Hornets first season), the Seattle Sonics have had more playoff success than Charlotte.

They stopped existing almost 20 years ago.

What's another year (or three). Just be patient. Tiddy and Nipples will be the missing pieces

[Diop]

Kemba deserved the 2nd round, they came stupidly close. Bloody purple shirt guy set Wade off

[Diop]

That's a no from me dawg, on Jalen Green. We have plenty of low IQ players as it is and he's not nearly consistent enough to warrant that type of salary. For anyone saying Ace Bailey is a bad fit on the Hornets but then suggests Jalen Green... c'mon bro

that was my initial gut feeling, but i got tempted, you guys have talked me back on the wagon

[Diop]

Charlotte has to get serious at some point about trying to win games. This new ownership/staff is preaching a long-term vision.

I just want to go to a playoff game again. That's all I'm asking for!

it was there year 1, so i get the long term vision stuff, but they will be bursting with young players after draft.

they have to add some proper win now veterans and play them.

Nurkic, Green and something to sweeten for Jrue Holiday. Boston get a reliable backup centre for when Porzingis strains his heart and Green's stats look solid for a 3 n D shooting guard. It's also not a big deal if Green does bugger all on offense there

[JustBuzzin]

Charlotte has to get serious at some point about trying to win games. This new ownership/staff is preaching a long-term vision.

I just want to go to a playoff game again. That's all I'm asking for!

it was there year 1, so i get the long term vision stuff, but they will be bursting with young players after draft.

they have to add some proper win now veterans and play them.

Nurkic, Green and something to sweeten for Jrue Holiday. Boston get a reliable backup centre for when Porzingis strains his heart and Green's stats look solid for a 3 n D shooting guard. It's also not a big deal if Green does bugger all on offense there

Bump Holiday let's go big game hunting.

Can we get something done for Jaylen Brown?

Miller/Nurkic/Grant/1st for Brown?

[SWedd523]

Charlotte has to get serious at some point about trying to win games. This new ownership/staff is preaching a long-term vision.

I just want to go to a playoff game again. That's all I'm asking for!

it was there year 1, so i get the long term vision stuff, but they will be bursting with young players after draft.

they have to add some proper win now veterans and play them.

Nurkic, Green and something to sweeten for Jrue Holiday. Boston get a reliable backup centre for when Porzingis strains his heart and Green's stats look solid for a 3 n D shooting guard. It's also not a big deal if Green does bugger all on offense there

Year 7 for Miles
Year 5 for Melo
Year 3 for Mark
Year 2 for Miller

Most have already conceded that next year be will another one more year, and i wouldn't be surprised if they preach patience another one from there.

So we're talking year 8 Melo, second contract Mark (but they just tried trading him so that signals kicking the can some more) and second contract Miller.

By that point don't be surprised if Melo demands a trade or at least one of the 3 gets traded because they can't afford the salaries (kicking the can another couple years).

[Braggins]

Charlotte has to get serious at some point about trying to win games. This new ownership/staff is preaching a long-term vision.

I just want to go to a playoff game again. That's all I'm asking for!

it was there year 1, so i get the long term vision stuff, but they will be bursting with young players after draft.

they have to add some proper win now veterans and play them.

Nurkic, Green and something to sweeten for Jrue Holiday. Boston get a reliable backup centre for when Porzingis strains his heart and Green's stats look solid for a 3 n D shooting guard. It's also not a big deal if Green does bugger all on offense there

Year 7 for Miles
Year 5 for Melo
Year 3 for Mark
Year 2 for Miller

Most have already conceded that next year be will another one more year, and i wouldn't be surprised if they preach patience another one from there.

So we're talking year 8 Melo, second contract Mark (but they just tried trading him so that signals kicking the can some more) and second contract Miller.

By that point don't be surprised if Melo demands a trade or at least one of the 3 gets traded because they can't afford the salaries (kicking the can another couple years).

Theres no reason they can't be like the 2023/2024 Rockets and make a big leap next year. Its a little trickier because they don't have much cap space and need to consolidate picks in trades, so they might need to wait for the right players to become available and can't just throw a bunch of money at solid vets in free agency, but they have the assets to be a playoff team within two seasons if the front office knows what they are doing.

[Diop]

Charlotte has to get serious at some point about trying to win games. This new ownership/staff is preaching a long-term vision.

I just want to go to a playoff game again. That's all I'm asking for!

it was there year 1, so i get the long term vision stuff, but they will be bursting with young players after draft.

they have to add some proper win now veterans and play them.

Nurkic, Green and something to sweeten for Jrue Holiday. Boston get a reliable backup centre for when Porzingis strains his heart and Green's stats look solid for a 3 n D shooting guard. It's also not a big deal if Green does bugger all on offense there

Bump Holiday let's go big game hunting.

Can we get something done for Jaylen Brown?

Miller/Nurkic/Grant/1st for Brown?

they aren't trading Brown. im all for big game hunting if something good is truly available

[Diop]

Charlotte has to get serious at some point about trying to win games. This new ownership/staff is preaching a long-term vision.

I just want to go to a playoff game again. That's all I'm asking for!

it was there year 1, so i get the long term vision stuff, but they will be bursting with young players after draft.

they have to add some proper win now veterans and play them.

Nurkic, Green and something to sweeten for Jrue Holiday. Boston get a reliable backup centre for when Porzingis strains his heart and Green's stats look solid for a 3 n D shooting guard. It's also not a big deal if Green does bugger all on offense there

Year 7 for Miles
Year 5 for Melo
Year 3 for Mark
Year 2 for Miller

Most have already conceded that next year be will another one more year, and i wouldn't be surprised if they preach patience another one from there.

So we're talking year 8 Melo, second contract Mark (but they just tried trading him so that signals kicking the can some more) and second contract Miller.

By that point don't be surprised if Melo demands a trade or at least one of the 3 gets traded because they can't afford the salaries (kicking the can another couple years).

i get that, but it was the front offices year 1. I get them wanted to gut everything and start from scratch. i would probably do the same.
and trading/signing for good players isn't as easy it sometimes seems. easy for Lakers, not for HorCats

Saying that, I'm not sure I could deal with a Philly style process. that would kill me

[Diop]

i'll take tari, jabari or reed

yep, and I think they're attainable.

Reed for his crappy year had some big games at the end of the season when he get some decent time.
I think Houston should have used Jabari more this playoffs, Green just wasn't doing it and you had brooks and thompson who could play Sg

In what Scenario would we end up with one of these three guys?

Only one that makes sense is if a team like Milwaukee or Suns don't value someone like Jabari and would rather a future first. I probably wouldn't give up a future first any of those 3 guys tbh.

If we are involved in a trade like that is more likely we take back unwanted salary like a Kuzma or Allen and we getting 2nd rounders back for helping to facilitate. They aren't throwing in Reed Sheppard or Jabari to a random 3rd team for peanuts.

if whoever is in the trade would prefer draft picks, Phoenix might not want Jabari

[JMAC3]

yep, and I think they're attainable.

Reed for his crappy year had some big games at the end of the season when he get some decent time.
I think Houston should have used Jabari more this playoffs, Green just wasn't doing it and you had brooks and thompson who could play Sg

In what Scenario would we end up with one of these three guys?

Only one that makes sense is if a team like Milwaukee or Suns don't value someone like Jabari and would rather a future first. I probably wouldn't give up a future first any of those 3 guys tbh.

If we are involved in a trade like that is more likely we take back unwanted salary like a Kuzma or Allen and we getting 2nd rounders back for helping to facilitate. They aren't throwing in Reed Sheppard or Jabari to a random 3rd team for peanuts.

if whoever is in the trade would prefer draft picks, Phoenix might not want Jabari

What first rounder are you giving up for Jabari?

[Diop]

In what Scenario would we end up with one of these three guys?

Only one that makes sense is if a team like Milwaukee or Suns don't value someone like Jabari and would rather a future first. I probably wouldn't give up a future first any of those 3 guys tbh.

If we are involved in a trade like that is more likely we take back unwanted salary like a Kuzma or Allen and we getting 2nd rounders back for helping to facilitate. They aren't throwing in Reed Sheppard or Jabari to a random 3rd team for peanuts.

if whoever is in the trade would prefer draft picks, Phoenix might not want Jabari

What first rounder are you giving up for Jabari?

Maybe that heat one that is turning to ****, I dunno I'm be brainstorming here