2025 General Draft Discussion 2

MasterIchiro · Post #141 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 10:27 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Trading up for Harper would be the dream scenario. I really think he's a future superstar.

You're not alone.

Spurs must know by now some team out there values him like a superstar, and San Antonio might be one of those teams. But knowing someone out there sees a superstar, they will price him accordingly.

The price would be a nightmare. Getting a superstar for a non-superstar price is a dream that has no chance of coming true.

JMAC3 · Post #142 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:45 pm

Current Big Board.

Tier1- Superstar
1. Cooper Flagg

Tier2- Franchise Player
2. Dylan Harper

Tier3- Allstar
3. Ace Bailey
4. Tre Johnson
5. Jeremiah Fears
6. VJ Edgecomb
7. Derik Queen

Tier4- Starters
8. Carter Bryant
9. Kasparas Jakucionis
10. Khaman Maluach
11. Kon Kneuppel
12. Noa Essengue
13. Egor Demin
14. Thomas Sorber
15. Nolan Traore

Tier5 - Rotation players
16. Cedric Coward
17. Asa Newell
18. Rasheer Fleming
19. Collin Murray Boyles
20. Danny Wolf
21. Maxime Raynaud
22. Jase Richardson
23. Nique Clifford
24. Walter Clayton Jr
25. Will Riley
26. Hugo Gonzalez
27. Noah Penda
28. Ben Saraf
29. Ryan Kalkbrenner
30. Bogoljub Markovic
31. Liam McNeely
32. Drake Powell
33. Adou Thiero
34. Joan Beringer
35. Chaz Lanier

Tier6- Best of the rest
36. Max Shulga
37. Hansen Yang
38. Rocco Zikarsky
39. Yanic Konan Niederhauser
40. Hunter Salis
41. Will Richard
42. Koby Brea
43. Tyrese Proctor
44. Jamir Watkins
45. Alex Toohey

JustBuzzin · Post #143 » by **JustBuzzin** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:52 pm

Me and Jmac got the same top 5.

What the helly!

JustBuzzin · Post #144 » by **JustBuzzin** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:53 pm

Just to make it clear Ace is my #3

If he's not available I would take both Tre and Fears ahead of VJ.

Post #145 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:59 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Me and Jmac got the same top 5.

What the helly!

I thought you had demin as your #2?

Or was that just a one day blip.

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JustBuzzin · Post #146 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:13 am

fatlever wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Me and Jmac got the same top 5.

What the helly!
I thought you had demin as your #2?
Or was that just a one day blip.

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Nah that was a trade back scenario.

Post #147 » by **Diop** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:18 am

fatlever wrote:she did nail the tiddy grab last year

Liver_Pooty · Post #148 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:01 am

I’m honestly okay with anyone not named Maluach. Prefer VJ, however.

Post #149 » by **Diop** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:52 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I’m honestly okay with anyone not named Maluach. Prefer VJ, however.

this is it for me. Malauch might end up great, but I don't see how he's gone from a solid looking centre to a top 5 pick.

Snidely FC · Post #150 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 11:17 am

If Carter Bryant can be ranked as high as 8 can he go at 4?

If this teams biggest need is a perimeter defender then might Bryant’s size and defensive ability (#4 ranked DBPM among freshman) make him a better fit than VJ?

Just asking

Liver_Pooty · Post #151 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:58 pm

Has us, or any team for that matter released any workout footage of the top prospects? Those videos is what i get off to and sway who i do or dont want even though they definitely shouldn't.

JMAC3 · Post #152 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:15 pm

Snidely FC wrote:If Carter Bryant can be ranked as high as 8 can he go at 4?

If this teams biggest need is a perimeter defender then might Bryant’s size and defensive ability (#4 ranked DBPM among freshman) make him a better fit than VJ?

Just asking

Idk I think that puts him on the Patrick Williams career arc, where he shows flashes but you are always expecting more.

Carter projects as a 4th or 5th starter to me, but his archetype is valuable but I would rather swing for a guy with more star upside at #4.

JustBuzzin · Post #153 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:34 pm

Snidely FC wrote:If Carter Bryant can be ranked as high as 8 can he go at 4?

If this teams biggest need is a perimeter defender then might Bryant’s size and defensive ability (#4 ranked DBPM among freshman) make him a better fit than VJ?

Just asking

Good point.

Considering most view VJ as the best fit not the best prospect available this is a legit question. I haven't been watching Carter Bryant film, but I will today. If he brings defense and has the size my only question is his ball handling and 3pt shooting compared to VJ.

If the skills matchup and they both have similar skill sets I would always favored the bigger player in that scenario.

SWedd523 · Post #154 » by **SWedd523** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:45 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:If Carter Bryant can be ranked as high as 8 can he go at 4?

If this teams biggest need is a perimeter defender then might Bryant’s size and defensive ability (#4 ranked DBPM among freshman) make him a better fit than VJ?

Just asking

Good point.

Considering most view VJ as the best fit not the best prospect available

I must have missed that

JustBuzzin · Post #155 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:52 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:If Carter Bryant can be ranked as high as 8 can he go at 4?

If this teams biggest need is a perimeter defender then might Bryant’s size and defensive ability (#4 ranked DBPM among freshman) make him a better fit than VJ?

Just asking

Good point.

Considering most view VJ as the best fit not the best prospect available

I must have missed that

Not this board in particular, but other message boards the main reason he's getting mocked to us is because he fits with Melo/Miller.

His lack of ball handling and shot creation is why he's getting the fit narrative from others. It screams role player imo.

JMAC3 · Post #156 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:54 pm

Read on Twitter

JMAC3 · Post #157 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 3:42 pm

Last year, I was down on Reed Sheppard and made the comparison a few times of him to Cam Spencer. Now this isn't a which guy is better convo but more so if you were trying to replace him at .40 of the cost who would be the next best thing.

Cooper Flagg = Kobe Sanders
Dylan Harper = Kam Jones
Ace Bailey = RJ Luis
Tre Johnson = Jaxson Robinson
Jeremiah Fears = Javon Small
VJ Edgecombe = Alijah Martin
Derik Queen = Johni Broome
Kasparas Jakucionis = Ben Saraf
Carter Bryant = Drake Powell
Khaman Maluach = Victor Goldin
Kon Kneuppel = Max Shulga
CMB = Obinna Anochili-Killen

JMAC3 · Post #158 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:03 pm

JMAC3 wrote:CMB = Obinna Anochili-Killen

Hornets worked him out yesterday.
6-8 in shoes, 7-4 wingspan, 225 lbs and averaged 4.1 Stocks per game

Bassman · Post #159 » by **Bassman** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:24 pm

JMAC3 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

I know I’m not in the loop, but please tell me…

Who the heck are these people?

Aren’t we expecting to draft at the TOP of the second round?

JMAC3 · Post #160 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:29 pm

Bassman wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

I know I’m not in the loop, but please tell me…

Who the heck are these people?

Aren’t we expecting to draft at the TOP of the second round?

This is pretty normal, best names don't typically start working out until 10-14 days before the draft. Early workouts are typically SL and Potential Two-Way types.