Fake Trade Thread III

[BleedGreen1989]

Uff, that Bogans contract is stinky limburger cheese, man. That smell will never wash out.
Three years you will have to sit there and watch his big old head bob like a coconut on the ocean at the end of our bench.
Call em and see if we can get Courtney Lee instead.

Keith Bogans has a team option at the end of this season which absolutely will not be picked up. He was signed only to make the BOS-BRK trade work financially.

He's essentially a $5mill expiring.

[mrknowitall215]

Uff, that Bogans contract is stinky limburger cheese, man. That smell will never wash out.
Three years you will have to sit there and watch his big old head bob like a coconut on the ocean at the end of our bench.
Call em and see if we can get Courtney Lee instead.

Keith Bogans has a team option at the end of this season which absolutely will not be picked up. He was signed only to make the BOS-BRK trade work financially.

He's essentially a $5mill expiring.

Thank you for the knowledge. In that case, if I were Charlotte, I would prefer Keith Bogans' expiring contract (due to a team option) over Courtney Lee in such a deal

[fatlever]

great work KIA...

my guess is we would have to include the detroit pick instead of the portland pick. that portland pick has very little value at this point. team's would probably rather have an early 2nd, than a late 1st. not sure

i wonder how the celtics feel about losing green and a 1st for asik and taylor.

MKG would have to play minutes at SG and SF and hopefully we could still find 25mpg for him with green on the roster.

in the end, i still dont like it for the cats though. we lose a 1st round pick, we lose solid wing depth in taylor, we lose 13 mil in cap space (although, not sure we could sign anyone better than green), green and MKG are very similar, less minutes for MKG at his natural position, makes us good enough for a 5th seed, but doesnt really help our future.

[MasterIchiro]

I'm starting to kind of believe that Rich Cho might very well indeed be involved in the trade talks with the Rockets & Omer Asik, but I don't think inquiry is about Asik coming to Charlotte, and neither does it implicate MKG no longer wearing a Bobcats uniform. However, it does entail Houston receiving the two 1st rounders that they sought out for in exchange of Asik in a 3-team trade

CHA in: Jeff Green, Keith Bogans
CHA out: Ben Gordon, Jeff Taylor, POR 1st rounder (top 12 protected)
*Charlotte get instant offensive help in Green that'll help their playoff aspirations

HOU in: Ben Gordon, BKN 1st rounder (w/ ATL rights to swap), POR 1st rounder (top 12 protected)
HOU out: Omer Asik, Ronnie Brewer
*Houston get the two 1st rounders they sought out for in exchange for Asik & cap flexibility in Gordon's expiring

BOS in: Omer Asik, Jeff Taylor, Ronnie Brewer
BOS out: Jeff Green, BKN 1st rounder (w/ ATL rights to swap)
*Boston get their starting center for the future in Asik

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If Jeff Green is coming to Charlotte then I can see why Ford has heard rumblings of MKG going on the block when he gets back. So with Green at SF, MKG can be flipped for a SG.

[mrknowitall215]

If Jeff Green is coming to Charlotte then I can see why Ford has heard rumblings of MKG going on the block when he gets back. So with Green at SF, MKG can be flipped for a SG.

I see no reason why MKG & Jeff Green couldn't co-exist in a dual wing lineup that exploits size advantage over most of their opponents with Gerald Henderson coming off the bench as a 6th man, in which I believe is his rightful role. With that said, I'd also like to state that I don't see no reason why Jeff Green couldn't take on the 6th man role initially upon being acquired by Charlotte until they figure out what is the best way to incorporate him, even if that does mean trading MKG down the road

I wouldn't recommend any trade of MKG though. He's exactly the type of lock down defender that any team trying to seriously contend for a championship need to nullify the impact of superstar scoring wings

[BleedGreen1989]

Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI 16 Dec
Nothing to Omer Asik-Jeff Green talk, per source. Celtics very happy with Green.

[MasterIchiro]

If Jeff Green is coming to Charlotte then I can see why Ford has heard rumblings of MKG going on the block when he gets back. So with Green at SF, MKG can be flipped for a SG.

I see no reason why MKG & Jeff Green couldn't co-exist in a dual wing lineup that exploits size advantage over most of their opponents with Gerald Henderson coming off the bench as a 6th man, in which I believe is his rightful role. With that said, I'd also like to state that I don't see no reason why Jeff Green couldn't take on the 6th man role initially upon being acquired by Charlotte until they figure out what is the best way to incorporate him, even if that does mean trading MKG down the road

I wouldn't recommend any trade of MKG though. He's exactly the type of lock down defender that any team trying to seriously contend for a championship need to nullify the impact of superstar scoring wings

Still doesn't account for why Ford has heard rumblings MKG will be put on the block shortly.

[MasterIchiro]

MKG on the block?

I'll do the honors since I love his skillset for our top 3 defense last place offense.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... rade-Talks

[mrknowitall215]

MKG is somewhat of a local kid around here in Philly, being that his family is originally from Camden, NJ, and he stayed in Somerdale, NJ during his high school years while commuting to St. Benedict's Prep

Question: If my Sixers offered Evan Turner + Pelicans' 1st rounder (top 5 protected) for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + Bismack Biyombo, how many of you Bobcats fans would say "yes" to such a deal?

[mrknowitall215]

MKG on the block?

I'll do the honors since I love his skillset for our top 3 defense last place offense.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... rade-Talks

That wiretap is from the same Chad Ford report that started the rumblings of MKG possibly being traded. Nothing new to build on from RealGM finally putting it on WT

[fatlever]

MKG is somewhat of a local kid around here in Philly, being that his family is originally from Camden, NJ, and he stayed in Somerdale, NJ during his high school years while commuting to St. Benedict's Prep

Question: If my Sixers offered Evan Turner + Pelicans' 1st rounder (top 5 protected) for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + Bismack Biyombo, how many of you Bobcats fans would say "yes" to such a deal?

only if the sixers promise to start this lineup - MCW, wroten, MKG, noel, biz - and try for a d-rating of 75.

[MasterIchiro]

MKG is somewhat of a local kid around here in Philly, being that his family is originally from Camden, NJ, and he stayed in Somerdale, NJ during his high school years while commuting to St. Benedict's Prep

Question: If my Sixers offered Evan Turner + Pelicans' 1st rounder (top 5 protected) for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + Bismack Biyombo, how many of you Bobcats fans would say "yes" to such a deal?

I sense a trade where the main pieces are Evan Turner and MKG is doable. The Sixers could build a better defense with MKG and especially when they get back his former teammate Noel. Their defense is horrible. The Bobcats have a top 3 defense and a last place offense. So I think there's a match there, especially with the Bobcats having cap space to lock up Evan Turner.

That's the main part of the trade.

I don't know how the rest of the transaction plays out though so I'm not going to tit-for-tat on the supporting pieces.

[MasterIchiro]

While Evan Turner is not an ideal floor spacer, he is a great passer. 4 assists/game from the SF spot is a clear-cut positional advantage over other teams. When the Bobcats move the ball well, they can wear down opposing defenders on the perimeter. Big Al, McBob, Turner and Kemba are all capable passers. I think ball movement would improve and scoring would follow despite Turner's poor 3-pt shooting. He's a scorer and he will draw defenders off Kemba and Al and he will find open guys. I don't know how you upgrade Henderson. Maybe with the DET pick you draft a sharp shooter with 6th man ability and starter potential as you phase out Henderson.

[mrknowitall215]

MKG is somewhat of a local kid around here in Philly, being that his family is originally from Camden, NJ, and he stayed in Somerdale, NJ during his high school years while commuting to St. Benedict's Prep

Question: If my Sixers offered Evan Turner + Pelicans' 1st rounder (top 5 protected) for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + Bismack Biyombo, how many of you Bobcats fans would say "yes" to such a deal?

only if the sixers promise to start this lineup - MCW, wroten, MKG, noel, biz - and try for a d-rating of 75.

That's the intent. I love defense. However, I wouldn't dare start Tony Wroten at SG unless we didn't have another viable option. I'm actually hoping that we could draft Jabari Parker. That would end our rebuild almost immediately. If we end up having to draft any other prospect, I won't be enthused, because we'd have another 2-3 years before we'd be able to reasonably compete

[JDuaneWayne]

While Evan Turner is not an ideal floor spacer, he is a great passer. 4 assists/game from the SF spot is a clear-cut positional advantage over other teams. When the Bobcats move the ball well, they can wear down opposing defenders on the perimeter. Big Al, McBob, Turner and Kemba are all capable passers. I think ball movement would improve and scoring would follow despite Turner's poor 3-pt shooting. He's a scorer and he will draw defenders off Kemba and Al and he will find open guys. I don't know how you upgrade Henderson. Maybe with the DET pick you draft a sharp shooter with 6th man ability and starter potential as you phase out Henderson.

Why would the Bobcats do this? You don't trade for someone due for a payday unless they have superstar potential. I think it would be detrimental to a franchise to trade someone who is likely to be overpaid for someone still on a rookie contract. That screams desperation and treadmill.

The problem with this team has been they have never simply let things ride out! They always blink first, they have got to stop doing that.

[MasterIchiro]

While Evan Turner is not an ideal floor spacer, he is a great passer. 4 assists/game from the SF spot is a clear-cut positional advantage over other teams. When the Bobcats move the ball well, they can wear down opposing defenders on the perimeter. Big Al, McBob, Turner and Kemba are all capable passers. I think ball movement would improve and scoring would follow despite Turner's poor 3-pt shooting. He's a scorer and he will draw defenders off Kemba and Al and he will find open guys. I don't know how you upgrade Henderson. Maybe with the DET pick you draft a sharp shooter with 6th man ability and starter potential as you phase out Henderson.

Why would the Bobcats do this? You don't trade for someone due for a payday unless they have superstar potential. I think it would be detrimental to a franchise to trade someone who is likely to be overpaid for someone still on a rookie contract. That screams desperation and treadmill.

The problem with this team has been they have never simply let things ride out! They always blink first, they have got to stop doing that.

I thought I made my point clear.

The Bobcats are a top 3 defense.

The Bobcats are a dead last offense.

So you trade a defender for a scorer and improve your team.

[thruthefire]

It goes MJ, LeBron, then Kemba.

must be ascending order

Word.

Kemba is shooting almost FORTY percent from the field, and averaging almost FIVE assists, yet he doesn't get any respect on this board. SMH.

[countryboi]

I am sick of talk of us putting our most tradeable asset on the block for peanuts....if you want MKG I am going to need some first rounders or boardline all star talent anything less is bull

[mrknowitall215]

As a Sixers fan, trading MKG for Evan Turner straight up would actually be a steal for us. That's why my proposal involves Philly including the Pelicans 1st rounder going to Charlotte as the entree, with Turner being a good side dish, in exchange for MKG & Biyombo. I know how much Bobcats fans love draft picks, and this upcoming draft is stocked with talent

[mrknowitall215]

MKG is somewhat of a local kid around here in Philly, being that his family is originally from Camden, NJ, and he stayed in Somerdale, NJ during his high school years while commuting to St. Benedict's Prep

Question: If my Sixers offered Evan Turner + Pelicans' 1st rounder (top 5 protected) for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + Bismack Biyombo, how many of you Bobcats fans would say "yes" to such a deal?

Yes? No?