Z-Rex: The Cody Zeller Thread

BadMofoPimp · Post #1421 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:55 pm

Quick questions for Bobcats fans, before the trade deadline, over on the Magic board, they were talking about trading Afflalo for Zeller. Just curious, would you guys even consider that?

mrknowitall215 · Post #1422 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:02 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Quick questions for Bobcats fans, before the trade deadline, over on the Magic board, they were talking about trading Afflalo for Zeller. Just curious, would you guys even consider that?

The majority would say "yes", but Cho would say "no". Zeller is Cho's pet project (assuming)

Marvel · Post #1423 » by **Marvel** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:11 pm

thruthefire wrote:Cody reminds me so much of Hansbrough, I don't know why I didn't see that comparison earlier.

Someone mentioned this earlier and it didn't take long for me to realise the brute truth of it minus the Psycho part.

Post #1424 » by **JDR720** » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:58 pm

Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

Eoghan · Post #1425 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:08 am

JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

They don't make a machine at the gym for that.

Bassman · Post #1426 » by **Bassman** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:35 am

JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

I agree. Cody needs time to get stronger, more mature, and NBA-wise. This is the case with nearly every rookie, but this kid has skills that will help him succeed. Probably will never be anywhere close to a star, but I still think his ceiling is a decent starter with OK offense, good defense and solid rebounding. I'm pulling for him.

Biz has been given a lot more latitude by this board. He works his butt off and is showing some limited upside in his 3rd year. Give Cody the same amount of time and he'll be good.

Elden Payton · Post #1427 » by **Elden Payton** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:39 am

BrotherDave wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

They don't make a machine at the gym for that.

We should re-hire Charles Oakley.

Elden Payton · Post #1428 » by **Elden Payton** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:40 am

Bassman wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

I agree. Cody needs time to get stronger, more mature, and NBA-wise. This is the case with nearly every rookie, but this kid has skills that will help him succeed. Probably will never be anywhere close to a star, but I still think his ceiling is a decent starter with OK offense, good defense and solid rebounding. I'm pulling for him.

Biz has been given a lot more latitude by this board. He works his butt off and is showing some limited upside in his 3rd year. Give Cody the same amount of time and he'll be good.

Well said Bassman!

Post #1429 » by **Diop** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:10 am

BrotherDave wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

They don't make a machine at the gym for that.

they have one in the prison gym

Elden Payton · Post #1430 » by **Elden Payton** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:12 am

Sachmo wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

They don't make a machine at the gym for that.

they have one in the prison gym

We'll organise for Zody to train with Mullens or Felton in the offseason then.

Eoghan · Post #1431 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:02 am

Bassman wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

I agree. Cody needs time to get stronger, more mature, and NBA-wise. This is the case with nearly every rookie, but this kid has skills that will help him succeed. Probably will never be anywhere close to a star, but I still think his ceiling is a decent starter with OK offense, good defense and solid rebounding. I'm pulling for him.

Biz has been given a lot more latitude by this board. He works his butt off and is showing some limited upside in his 3rd year. Give Cody the same amount of time and he'll be good.

Heh, I'm pretty sure Biz came into the league with better looking form on his jumpshot. Any offense from Biz is found money, he was drafted for defense. Cody was drafted under the assumption he was NBA ready with stretch 4 ability. He's weightlifting and a mean streak from being a rich man's Joel Amundson right now, that's a tougher fix than some of you want to believe.

Post #1432 » by **JDR720** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:10 am

to be honest all Cody really needs is several large tattoos and some tribal's and a mohawk then the transformation will be complete

mrknowitall215 · Post #1433 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:20 am

Cody Zeller is a oversized (even though he consider himself undersized) & softer version of Tyler Hansborough. That's the conclusion I've come to. I compared Zeller's potential NBA impact to Hansborough's when I was scouting him at Indiana, which is a good & bad thing. That's a good thing because I think Hansborough is a quality backup PF in the league. It's a bad thing because I would've never drafted a player like Hansborough in the weakest of draft classes

JDuaneWayne · Post #1434 » by **JDuaneWayne** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:33 am

BrotherDave wrote:
Bassman wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Cody will play a lot better next season when he has a whole offseason to improve and also he just needs to get a mean streak in him, he doesn't have a mean bone in his body right now

I agree. Cody needs time to get stronger, more mature, and NBA-wise. This is the case with nearly every rookie, but this kid has skills that will help him succeed. Probably will never be anywhere close to a star, but I still think his ceiling is a decent starter with OK offense, good defense and solid rebounding. I'm pulling for him.

Biz has been given a lot more latitude by this board. He works his butt off and is showing some limited upside in his 3rd year. Give Cody the same amount of time and he'll be good.

Heh, I'm pretty sure Biz came into the league with better looking form on his jumpshot. Any offense from Biz is found money, he was drafted for defense. Cody was drafted under the assumption he was NBA ready with stretch 4 ability. He's weightlifting and a mean streak from being a rich man's Joel Amundson right now, that's a tougher fix than some of you want to believe.

Who the f is Joel Amundson?

JDuaneWayne · Post #1435 » by **JDuaneWayne** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:36 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:Cody Zeller is a oversized (even though he consider himself undersized) & softer version of Tyler Hansborough. That's the conclusion I've come to. I compared Zeller's potential NBA impact to Hansborough's when I was scouting him at Indiana, which is a good & bad thing. That's a good thing because I think Hansborough is a quality backup PF in the league. It's a bad thing because I would've never drafted a player like Hansborough in the weakest of draft classes

Zeller's release and form are worlds better than Hansbrough.

LamarMatic7 · Post #1436 » by **LamarMatic7** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:40 am

JDuaneWayne wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
Bassman wrote:
I agree. Cody needs time to get stronger, more mature, and NBA-wise. This is the case with nearly every rookie, but this kid has skills that will help him succeed. Probably will never be anywhere close to a star, but I still think his ceiling is a decent starter with OK offense, good defense and solid rebounding. I'm pulling for him.

Biz has been given a lot more latitude by this board. He works his butt off and is showing some limited upside in his 3rd year. Give Cody the same amount of time and he'll be good.

Heh, I'm pretty sure Biz came into the league with better looking form on his jumpshot. Any offense from Biz is found money, he was drafted for defense. Cody was drafted under the assumption he was NBA ready with stretch 4 ability. He's weightlifting and a mean streak from being a rich man's Joel Amundson right now, that's a tougher fix than some of you want to believe.

Who the f is Joel Amundson?

a Lou Amundson and Joel Przybilla hybrid.

JDuaneWayne · Post #1437 » by **JDuaneWayne** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:48 am

LamarMatic7 wrote:
JDuaneWayne wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Heh, I'm pretty sure Biz came into the league with better looking form on his jumpshot. Any offense from Biz is found money, he was drafted for defense. Cody was drafted under the assumption he was NBA ready with stretch 4 ability. He's weightlifting and a mean streak from being a rich man's Joel Amundson right now, that's a tougher fix than some of you want to believe.

Who the f is Joel Amundson?

a Lou Amundson and Joel Przybilla hybrid.

I was waiting to see what he came up with but he can't beat that. We have ties or been linked to both in the past so maybe we knew what we were doing all along.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1438 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:49 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Cody Zeller is a oversized (even though he consider himself undersized) & softer version of Tyler Hansborough. That's the conclusion I've come to. I compared Zeller's potential NBA impact to Hansborough's when I was scouting him at Indiana, which is a good & bad thing. That's a good thing because I think Hansborough is a quality backup PF in the league. It's a bad thing because I would've never drafted a player like Hansborough in the weakest of draft classes

Zeller's release and form are worlds better than Hansbrough.

I can name you plenty of players that had better release and form than Reggie Miller or to a lesser extent Kevin Martin, but their production wasn't even close. Either way, release and form has nothing to do with my comparison. Hansbrough started out his career trying to shoot jumpers to varying results, but he still shot the midrange better than Zeller has this season. Nowadays, Hansbrough just live in the paint, realizing that he's not a jump shooter, something I hope the coaches realize about Zeller, and make him stop taking jump shots that he's not comfortable taking

Moral of my post is, Zeller isn't a stretch 4, and he's not even a midrange jump shooting PF (yet). He's just a 7-footer with some agility & athleticism, and no real skill (yet)

Benjamin Linus · Post #1439 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:16 pm

BrotherDave wrote: He's weightlifting and a mean ponytail from being a rich man's Louis Amundson right now

FTFY

catch20two · Post #1440 » by **catch20two** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:38 pm

I'm happy that Zeller has been playing a little better lately but I still don't trust him in the game. Hopefully he'll have one of those Harrison Barnes like playoff breakthroughs after struggling all regular season as a rookie since it don't look like we'll be adding anyone to give him competition for his minutes. In fact Zeller hasn't had anyone on our roster to challenge him for minutes all season. Clifford restricted Biz and Adrien to primarily the C position and Tolliver was a backup PF until he started producing and Clifford moved him to SF. Zeller has been given playing time on a silver platter.