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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1421 » by gehenherzog » Mon Feb 3, 2014 4:30 pm

Number 1 option for me...Trade up and get Dante Exum. We need scorers, obviously.

next, with our possible selections (if we don't trade), I want, in no particular order.

with Detroit's pick (depending on who's available) :
Rodney Hood
Zach Lavine
Greg McDermott
Glenn Robinson III
TJ Warren (flat out scorer)


with Blazers pick: (pick could continue to get better)
TJ Warren (might still be available)
PJ Hairston
Deonte Burton
Montrezl Harrell
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Post#1422 » by BeesWax » Mon Feb 3, 2014 4:42 pm

Sik Infant wrote:What a boss!

He really is a mind boggling player at the collegiate level.


I agree but what worries me is could he be another Wally Szczerbiak.
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Post#1423 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Feb 3, 2014 4:56 pm

Wally had a nice career and even snuck onto an all-star team. Wouldn't hate that with a mid-round pick.

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Post#1424 » by fatlever » Mon Feb 3, 2014 5:13 pm

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BigSlam wrote: "big mane" players


Unfortunately, this draft seems to lack a real franchise-changing mane, there's no Olynyk or even a Morrison.

Though it seems Wiggins could grow out a nice fro...

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i'd even be happy with a robin lopez
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Post#1425 » by gehenherzog » Mon Feb 3, 2014 6:10 pm

jdm3 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:What a boss!

He really is a mind boggling player at the collegiate level.


I agree but what worries me is could he be another Wally Szczerbiak.

Man I'd really hate to have a career 15ppg and a career 40% 3pt shooter. If you give me a Wally Szczerbiak in his prime on the Bobcats right now, we are 3 or 4 seed in the East
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Post#1426 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 7:15 pm

jdm3 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:What a boss!

He really is a mind boggling player at the collegiate level.


I agree but what worries me is could he be another Wally Szczerbiak.


If I was a GM, and a fortune teller told & guaranteed me that Doug McDermott's career would mirror Wally Szczerbiak's, I wouldn't hesitate to draft him in the lottery. That was a great comparison by you as well. Many have compared McDermott to Kyle Korver and/or Mike Dunleavy Jr., but I think the Szczerbiak comp is dead on
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Post#1427 » by BeesWax » Mon Feb 3, 2014 7:30 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:What a boss!

He really is a mind boggling player at the collegiate level.


I agree but what worries me is could he be another Wally Szczerbiak.


If I was a GM, and a fortune teller told & guaranteed me that Doug McDermott's career would mirror Wally Szczerbiak's, I wouldn't hesitate to draft him in the lottery. That was a great comparison by you as well. Many have compared McDermott to Kyle Korver and/or Mike Dunleavy Jr., but I think the Szczerbiak comp is dead on

The thing that worries me is his defense. For Wally to be useful he needed to be surrounded by defenders and having Al in the middle hurts his value. He would be better on a team with a rim protector.
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Post#1428 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 7:36 pm

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I agree but what worries me is could he be another Wally Szczerbiak.


If I was a GM, and a fortune teller told & guaranteed me that Doug McDermott's career would mirror Wally Szczerbiak's, I wouldn't hesitate to draft him in the lottery. That was a great comparison by you as well. Many have compared McDermott to Kyle Korver and/or Mike Dunleavy Jr., but I think the Szczerbiak comp is dead on

The thing that worries me is his defense. For Wally to be useful he needed to be surrounded by defenders and having Al in the middle hurts his value. He would be better on a team with a rim protector.


I think we all expect McDermott to struggle on defense, but his perimeter shooting & knack as a scorer is what this team need, and he could provide that. Charlotte won't do much anytime soon regardless until they put a rim protector alongside Jefferson no matter what perimeter-oriented player they draft. Jabari Parker & Andrew Wiggins could fall into their hands, and they would still need a rim protector
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Post#1429 » by BeesWax » Mon Feb 3, 2014 7:55 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:
If I was a GM, and a fortune teller told & guaranteed me that Doug McDermott's career would mirror Wally Szczerbiak's, I wouldn't hesitate to draft him in the lottery. That was a great comparison by you as well. Many have compared McDermott to Kyle Korver and/or Mike Dunleavy Jr., but I think the Szczerbiak comp is dead on

The thing that worries me is his defense. For Wally to be useful he needed to be surrounded by defenders and having Al in the middle hurts his value. He would be better on a team with a rim protector.


I think we all expect McDermott to struggle on defense, but his perimeter shooting & knack as a scorer is what this team need, and he could provide that. Charlotte won't do much anytime soon regardless until they put a rim protector alongside Jefferson no matter what perimeter-oriented player they draft. Jabari Parker & Andrew Wiggins could fall into their hands, and they would still need a rim protector

Our problem will be finding a 4 who can rim protect and not clog the lane on offense. Also if McDermott plays the 4 who would be the help. If we draft him it would almost be better to draft a new SF who can score and just try to out score teams in a shoot out.
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Post#1430 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 8:14 pm

jdm3 wrote:Our problem will be finding a 4 who can rim protect and not clog the lane on offense. Also if McDermott plays the 4 who would be the help. If we draft him it would almost be better to draft a new SF who can score and just try to out score teams in a shoot out.


I don't think McDermott would start for Charlotte if drafted by them unless he eventually supplanted MKG as the starting SF, but he could give a lot of spot minutes at either forward position off the bench similar to how Anthony Tolliver currently does. McDermott is primarily a SF (a slow-footed one might I add) that could play some PF in small-ball lineups
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Post#1431 » by JDR720 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 8:44 pm

if McDermott can be anything like Wally Szczerbiak i would be very happy
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Post#1432 » by JDR720 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 8:45 pm

not to many stretch 4's that also protect the paint, only one i can think of is Ibaka
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1433 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 9:10 pm

JDR720 wrote:not to many stretch 4's that also protect the paint, only one i can think of is Ibaka

that's why Rasheed Wallace was so damn valuable.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1434 » by fatlever » Mon Feb 3, 2014 10:43 pm

two perfect PFs in history that would be ideal for the bobcats

rasheed wallace and cliff robinson - both were fantastic defenders (mostly below the rim) and both were 3pt shooters.
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Post#1435 » by BeesWax » Mon Feb 3, 2014 10:49 pm

JDR720 wrote:not to many stretch 4's that also protect the paint, only one i can think of is Ibaka

That is what makes covering up for Al's weaknesses so hard. Can't get a perimeter 4 who can cover the rim. Makes him a hard guy to build around.
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Post#1436 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Feb 3, 2014 10:56 pm

I'm beginning to like Jordan Mickey from LSU as a possible athletic defensive PF for Charlotte in the draft. Mickey is a freshman that is kind of floating under the radar that I can see entering the draft & moving up draft boards into late lottery conversation. Mickey has enough quickness to defend small forwards & stretch 4's out to the perimeter as well as the defensive prowess & length to protect the rim
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Post#1437 » by catch20two » Mon Feb 3, 2014 11:22 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:I'm beginning to like Jordan Mickey from LSU as a possible athletic defensive PF for Charlotte in the draft. Mickey is a freshman that is kind of floating under the radar that I can see entering the draft & moving up draft boards into late lottery conversation. Mickey has enough quickness to defend small forwards & stretch 4's out to the perimeter as well as the defensive prowess & length to protect the rim

I like him a little bit more than Noah Vonleh and a lot more than Aaron Gordon. I remember seeing him at a HS showcase and it look like he's grown a few inches since then because I thought he was going to be a SF but he's looking about 6'9" instead of 6'7" these days. I looked it up and he's averaging almost 4 blocks a game. Wow.
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Post#1438 » by BeesWax » Mon Feb 3, 2014 11:49 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:I'm beginning to like Jordan Mickey from LSU as a possible athletic defensive PF for Charlotte in the draft. Mickey is a freshman that is kind of floating under the radar that I can see entering the draft & moving up draft boards into late lottery conversation. Mickey has enough quickness to defend small forwards & stretch 4's out to the perimeter as well as the defensive prowess & length to protect the rim

I like him a little bit more than Noah Vonleh and a lot more than Aaron Gordon. I remember seeing him at a HS showcase and it look like he's grown a few inches since then because I thought he was going to be a SF but he's looking about 6'9" instead of 6'7" these days. I looked it up and he's averaging almost 4 blocks a game. Wow.

Don't know much about him. Can he stretch the floor?
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Post#1439 » by catch20two » Tue Feb 4, 2014 12:13 am

jdm3 wrote:
catch20two wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I'm beginning to like Jordan Mickey from LSU as a possible athletic defensive PF for Charlotte in the draft. Mickey is a freshman that is kind of floating under the radar that I can see entering the draft & moving up draft boards into late lottery conversation. Mickey has enough quickness to defend small forwards & stretch 4's out to the perimeter as well as the defensive prowess & length to protect the rim

I like him a little bit more than Noah Vonleh and a lot more than Aaron Gordon. I remember seeing him at a HS showcase and it look like he's grown a few inches since then because I thought he was going to be a SF but he's looking about 6'9" instead of 6'7" these days. I looked it up and he's averaging almost 4 blocks a game. Wow.

Don't know much about him. Can he stretch the floor?

Nope, not really, at least not yet but he has a solid handle, a decent midrange, and can dunk over anybody. His offensive game is like a poor man's Blake Griffin but that's not a insult. Mickey's offensive game is more rounded than Gordon's and more fluid than Vonleh's.
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Re: 2014 Draft Prospects Thread 

Post#1440 » by yosemiteben » Tue Feb 4, 2014 12:23 am

fatlever wrote:two perfect PFs in history that would be ideal for the bobcats

rasheed wallace and cliff robinson - both were fantastic defenders (mostly below the rim) and both were 3pt shooters.

Too bad the Bobcats didn't find a way to grab Ryan Kelly in the draft - maybe send a future 2nd and a little cash, wouldn't have been hard because he was hurt at the time. He would've been a great fit.

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