2014 College/Draft Prospects Thread II

Liver_Pooty · Post #1421 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat May 10, 2014 12:39 am

This time of year always brings bloodshed in arguing for prospects.

Eoghan · Post #1422 » by **Eoghan** » Sat May 10, 2014 2:02 am

Link to my Lottery Mafia top 14 big board: http://thelotterymafia.com/nba-draft/lottery-gold-mining-the-top-14-big-board.html

TL;DR version:

1. Wiggins.
2. Parker
3. Embiid
4. Randle
5. Exum
6. Gordon
7. McDermott
8. Young
9. Smart
10. LaVine
11. Anderson
12. Ennis
13. Saric
14. Vonleh

Edit: List is just a general ranking, not a traditional mock draft of where I think each player should go.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1423 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat May 10, 2014 2:14 am

BrotherDave wrote:Link to my Lottery Mafia top 14 big board: http://thelotterymafia.com/nba-draft/lottery-gold-mining-the-top-14-big-board.html

TL;DR version:

1. Wiggins.
2. Parker
3. Embiid
4. Randle
5. Exum
6. Gordon
7. McDermott
8. Young
9. Smart
10. LaVine
11. Anderson
12. Ennis
13. Saric
14. Vonleh

I think Detroit would jump all over Smart.

HornetJail · Post #1424 » by **HornetJail** » Sun May 11, 2014 4:31 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Detroit would jump all over Smart.

Detroit drafting Rodney Stuckey all over again would be excellent for our 2015 draft.

Snidely FC · Post #1425 » by **Snidely FC** » Sun May 11, 2014 5:12 pm

BrotherDave wrote:Link to my Lottery Mafia top 14 big board: http://thelotterymafia.com/nba-draft/lottery-gold-mining-the-top-14-big-board.html

TL;DR version:

1. Wiggins.
2. Parker
3. Embiid
4. Randle
5. Exum
6. Gordon
7. McDermott
8. Young
9. Smart
10. LaVine
11. Anderson
12. Ennis
13. Saric
14. Vonleh

Edit: List is just a general ranking, not a traditional mock draft of where I think each player should go.

Adam Silver: "There's been a trade. The Charlotte Bobcats trade Cody Zeller + #24 to SAC for Doug McDermott."

Post #1426 » by **JDR720** » Sun May 11, 2014 6:20 pm

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catch20two · Post #1427 » by **catch20two** » Sun May 11, 2014 7:19 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Adam Silver: "There's been a trade. The Charlotte Bobcats trade Cody Zeller + #24 to SAC for Doug McDermott."

This would almost be like a dream come true. Cho don't got the balls to do it though.

Eoghan · Post #1428 » by **Eoghan** » Sun May 11, 2014 9:39 pm

catch20two wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Adam Silver: "There's been a trade. The Charlotte Bobcats trade Cody Zeller + #24 to SAC for Doug McDermott."

This would almost be like a dream come true. Cho don't got the balls to do it though.

For sure, especially since the rest of management was against his last white guy pick (allegedly). Cho is oddly not a mover and shaker during the draft. Weirdly, his only draft day trade has been trading up for Biyombo, hasn't it?

I love Biz and I think he'll justify his draft selection eventually (or at least come close) but there were so many easier moves Cho probably could have done during his tenure.

24 and Zeller might be a slight overpay for McDermott but yeah, I'd probably do it just to get out of Zeller's contract.

BeesWax · Post #1429 » by **BeesWax** » Sun May 11, 2014 10:58 pm

BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Adam Silver: "There's been a trade. The Charlotte Bobcats trade Cody Zeller + #24 to SAC for Doug McDermott."

This would almost be like a dream come true. Cho don't got the balls to do it though.

For sure, especially since the rest of management was against his last white guy pick (allegedly). Cho is oddly not a mover and shaker during the draft. Weirdly, his only draft day trade has been trading up for Biyombo, hasn't it?

I love Biz and I think he'll justify his draft selection eventually (or at least come close) but there were so many easier moves Cho probably could have done during his tenure.

24 and Zeller might be a slight overpay for McDermott but yeah, I'd probably do it just to get out of Zeller's contract.

If someone would take Zeller and 24 for McDermott I would consider it a steal for us. We get the far better player and it only costs a late first.

catch20two · Post #1430 » by **catch20two** » Sun May 11, 2014 11:07 pm

BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:Adam Silver: "There's been a trade. The Charlotte Bobcats trade Cody Zeller + #24 to SAC for Doug McDermott."

This would almost be like a dream come true. Cho don't got the balls to do it though.

For sure, especially since the rest of management was against his last white guy pick (allegedly). Cho is oddly not a mover and shaker during the draft. Weirdly, his only draft day trade has been trading up for Biyombo, hasn't it?

I love Biz and I think he'll justify his draft selection eventually (or at least come close) but there were so many easier moves Cho probably could have done during his tenure.

24 and Zeller might be a slight overpay for McDermott but yeah, I'd probably do it just to get out of Zeller's contract.

24 and Zeller for Mcdermott isn't a slight overpay. Paying Zeller top 5 pick rookie scale money is a overpay.

Post #1431 » by **JDR720** » Mon May 12, 2014 1:40 am

the draft is June 26th, closer that i thought it was

Liver_Pooty · Post #1432 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:12 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:I think Detroit would jump all over Smart.

Detroit drafting Rodney Stuckey all over again would be excellent for our 2015 draft.

I think Smart is exponentially more talented than Stuckey.

MasterIchiro · Post #1433 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:09 am

Say Shabazz Napier is there at 24 and the Knicks really needing a PG call up and offer Tim Hardaway Jr.

Would you make that swap?

Liver_Pooty · Post #1434 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:10 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Say Shabazz Napier is there at 24 and the Knicks really needing a PG call up and offer Tim Hardaway Jr.

Would you make that swap?

Knicks aren't going to give up Hardaway, at all. The fans love him dearly, and he is a really good prospect.

That being said, absolutely.

HornetJail · Post #1435 » by **HornetJail** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:34 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Say Shabazz Napier is there at 24 and the Knicks really needing a PG call up and offer Tim Hardaway Jr.

Would you make that swap?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I have to think long and hard about that one. I absolutely love Napier, but we'd be drafting him as a career backup. Shabazz is an absolute steal that far down. I'd take him over Marcus Stupid ten times out of ten. On the other hand, Tim Hardaway Jr is already a decent player in the league- a legit scorer, with a solid touch from the NBA three. I'd try to make them eat Haywood or Neal's contract and consider the deal with one of them included.

I honestly don't know which one I'd pick.

Post #1436 » by **JDR720** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:39 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Say Shabazz Napier is there at 24 and the Knicks really needing a PG call up and offer Tim Hardaway Jr.

Would you make that swap?

Yes, for the hope that one day, Gerald will be shipped out of Charlotte

Post #1437 » by **BigSlam** » Mon May 12, 2014 1:14 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Say Shabazz Napier is there at 24 and the Knicks really needing a PG call up and offer Tim Hardaway Jr.

Would you make that swap?

Is the difference between Hardaway Jr and CDR that great?

BeesWax · Post #1438 » by **BeesWax** » Mon May 12, 2014 4:44 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Say Shabazz Napier is there at 24 and the Knicks really needing a PG call up and offer Tim Hardaway Jr.

Would you make that swap?

Easily but I am not a huge Napier fan. I really doubt we could get a good player like Hardaway for him.

Eoghan · Post #1439 » by **Eoghan** » Mon May 12, 2014 5:31 pm

BigSlam wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Say Shabazz Napier is there at 24 and the Knicks really needing a PG call up and offer Tim Hardaway Jr.

Would you make that swap?

Is the difference between Hardaway Jr and CDR that great?

For us, in basketball terms, oh yeah.

MasterIchiro · Post #1440 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon May 12, 2014 6:33 pm

I also think the difference between Napier and Felton is significant if the Knicks plan on rebuilding. We will have to see what happens with Carmelo Anthony. There's no cap space for a significant free agent PG for the Knicks, I don't think. And they don't have a draft pick. Also Napier has visibility in the NYC market and MSG due to the old Big East and the Huskies. He's a guy I think they'd target. And obviously Hardaway Jr. fits our needs. I'd definitely ask about him if put in the position to do so.