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Sachmo wrote:they're still using him as a stretch 4, but he seems to be doing all of his scoring inside.
mainly on garbage points.
would like to see him get it in the post once or twice.
Sik Infant wrote:Sachmo wrote:they're still using him as a stretch 4, but he seems to be doing all of his scoring inside.
mainly on garbage points.
would like to see him get it in the post once or twice.
I think it shows that he's finding a balance between his natural game and the player we want him to be.
As our FO has said, they see him as a better version of McBob (eventually)
In this draft you'd have to take that.
jdm3 wrote:Sik Infant wrote:Sachmo wrote:they're still using him as a stretch 4, but he seems to be doing all of his scoring inside.
mainly on garbage points.
would like to see him get it in the post once or twice.
I think it shows that he's finding a balance between his natural game and the player we want him to be.
As our FO has said, they see him as a better version of McBob (eventually)
In this draft you'd have to take that.
If we were shooting for a better version of McBob with the 4th pick our management needs to hang it up and pass the reins to someone else. That is a weak target and his shoot 3-8 mostly on garbage put backs is no where near the skill set McBob has.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
Sik Infant wrote:Sachmo wrote:they're still using him as a stretch 4, but he seems to be doing all of his scoring inside.
mainly on garbage points.
would like to see him get it in the post once or twice.
I think it shows that he's finding a balance between his natural game and the player we want him to be.
As our FO has said, they see him as a better version of McBob (eventually)
In this draft you'd have to take that.
Sik Infant wrote:jdm3 wrote:Sik Infant wrote:
I think it shows that he's finding a balance between his natural game and the player we want him to be.
As our FO has said, they see him as a better version of McBob (eventually)
In this draft you'd have to take that.
If we were shooting for a better version of McBob with the 4th pick our management needs to hang it up and pass the reins to someone else. That is a weak target and his shoot 3-8 mostly on garbage put backs is no where near the skill set McBob has.
Look at this current rookie class, in hindsight I'd take MCW (and Oladipo) over him, Oladipo was taken second and ten other teams passed on MCW (and we already have a PG)
If Zeller can consistently hit that 18-20 foot jumper and get those garbage points then he will be fine offensively imo, whether he can get to that point is a good question.
He can rebound a bit, he passes the ball pretty well for a big, he hustles and tries to play defense, he can defintely be a rich man's McBob imo.
It's not like he is a lost cause.
Liver_Pooty wrote:You guys sure do bash Zeller an awful lot, even when he is playing well.
I could only imagine if we picked Bennett, Porter, Len, or McLemore. Some of you may have committed suicide by now.
mrknowitall215 wrote:Who do you think is better (and is going to have a better career)? Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk?
jdm3 wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:You guys sure do bash Zeller an awful lot, even when he is playing well.
I could only imagine if we picked Bennett, Porter, Len, or McLemore. Some of you may have committed suicide by now.
At least the fans of those other teams can say, well our guy was hurt maybe when he gets better he will be good. Our guy has been heathly and awful. I am waiting on him to play well. 10 points on 37% shooting for a 7 footer is not a good game. He had some rebounds and hustled but not what I want from a guy picked that high. Also all three of his made baskets are from 5 feet or in this past game along with three in the lane misses and he missed his only two jump shots from mid range.
He was touted as a ready made player and has not been good at all this year. It is easy to bash him as he lays on the court after getting blocked by guards.
mrknowitall215 wrote:Who do you think is better (and is going to have a better career)? Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk?
Biz Gilwalker wrote:jdm3 wrote:Liver_Pooty wrote:You guys sure do bash Zeller an awful lot, even when he is playing well.
I could only imagine if we picked Bennett, Porter, Len, or McLemore. Some of you may have committed suicide by now.
At least the fans of those other teams can say, well our guy was hurt maybe when he gets better he will be good. Our guy has been heathly and awful. I am waiting on him to play well. 10 points on 37% shooting for a 7 footer is not a good game. He had some rebounds and hustled but not what I want from a guy picked that high. Also all three of his made baskets are from 5 feet or in this past game along with three in the lane misses and he missed his only two jump shots from mid range.
He was touted as a ready made player and has not been good at all this year. It is easy to bash him as he lays on the court after getting blocked by guards.
He simply isn't going to be "good" by any stretch until he bulks up. Last night was by far the best night of his career and he got 10/8 and got laid out by Doris Miaw at least once.
Biz Gilwalker wrote:mrknowitall215 wrote:Who do you think is better (and is going to have a better career)? Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk?
If he bulks up? Zeller.
mrknowitall215 wrote:Who do you think is better (and is going to have a better career)? Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk?
JDR720 wrote:mrknowitall215 wrote:Who do you think is better (and is going to have a better career)? Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk?
Zeller, he is more athletic and better on defense, the only think Kelly has on Zeller right now is shooting
mrknowitall215 wrote:Who do you think is better (and is going to have a better career)? Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk?
jdm3 wrote:JDR720 wrote:mrknowitall215 wrote:Who do you think is better (and is going to have a better career)? Cody Zeller or Kelly Olynyk?
Zeller, he is more athletic and better on defense, the only think Kelly has on Zeller right now is shooting
Olynyk is just as good passing the ball and seeing the floor, if not better, than Zeller. Kelly has much better offense right now and neither looks like much on the defensive end right now. Now the defense can be chalked up a little to speed of the game and both being rookies. Zeller tested as a better athlete but does not seem to work it into his game enough. If he can learn to use his god given gifts on the court I agree, but that is a big if since he hasn't in his first 21 years of life.
