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OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1481 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:31 am

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TheKingofSting wrote:I will be thrilled if MKG averages around 12 PPG this season.


Agreed. I think 13 ppg is far fetched for him this season. Baby steps for MKG. If he scored 11 game on good efficiency with a respectable jumper this season id be happy. Next season is when I think he will truly break through. This season is going to be an improvement for sure though.

11ppg with his defense essentially makes him Andre Iguodala without the ability to run point. I'll take that considering MKG is 21. :nod:


Exactly. If MKG averaged 13/7 this year I would be beyond ecstatic, but I don't see it happening. Its almost doubling his ppg total from last season, and that is a monumental jump. 11 a game is just fine to me.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1482 » by HornetJail » Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:23 am

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Agreed. I think 13 ppg is far fetched for him this season. Baby steps for MKG. If he scored 11 game on good efficiency with a respectable jumper this season id be happy. Next season is when I think he will truly break through. This season is going to be an improvement for sure though.

11ppg with his defense essentially makes him Andre Iguodala without the ability to run point. I'll take that considering MKG is 21. :nod:


Exactly. If MKG averaged 13/7 this year I would be beyond ecstatic, but I don't see it happening. Its almost doubling his ppg total from last season, and that is a monumental jump. 11 a game is just fine to me.

I'd be cool with 10/8. I think his rebounding is going to be big time this year.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1483 » by BeesWax » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:50 pm

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Agreed. I think 13 ppg is far fetched for him this season. Baby steps for MKG. If he scored 11 game on good efficiency with a respectable jumper this season id be happy. Next season is when I think he will truly break through. This season is going to be an improvement for sure though.

11ppg with his defense essentially makes him Andre Iguodala without the ability to run point. I'll take that considering MKG is 21. :nod:


Exactly. If MKG averaged 13/7 this year I would be beyond ecstatic, but I don't see it happening. Its almost doubling his ppg total from last season, and that is a monumental jump. 11 a game is just fine to me.

It is not as far fetched as it seems since he played only 24 minutes last year. Getting to 13/7 if he gets 30 minutes a night won't be terribly far off his pace last year.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1484 » by fatlever » Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:23 pm

my predictions in the stats thread for MKG were fairly conservative

10ppg, 6.5rpg, 2apg

i just think it will be tough for him to average more than that as the 4th option at all times. he will still have a lot of games where he scores in single digits.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1485 » by TheKingofSting » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:28 am

I think MKG's rebounds should go up regardless.
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Post#1486 » by vorbis » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:33 am

MKG's counting stats last season were skewed by his extreme unreliability on offense and thus being benched in crunch time. same with dunlap. if he's got a passable jumper and will take and hit the open shot, he'll see more consistent minutes and his averages could go up significantly even without significant improvement.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1487 » by EwingSweatsALot » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:27 pm

I wouldn't expect MKG much over 11-12 ppg. If he gets to 30 mpg (which I doubt), then He might even get to 12.5, but I would say around 10-10.5 is what should be expected. This is even with improvements in all areas of his point scoring game.

I would expect his minutes and usage to go up, but not by much. We can see in preseason he is more confident in the offense and with his shot so I would expect him to shoot at least one more time because of that.

I would also expect him to shoot, just a little better in all areas of the field. He has gotten stronger so I can see him finishing better. The new shot should allow him to shoot better from all other areas (it really can't get any worse.

Projections based on 28 mpg. 3.8 minutes more than last year. I think he will be used more than last year in crunch time, but at the same time we are so deep at the wing, with scorers on the bench, that he will still be replaced.

Based on the 28 minutes I would say he shoots right around 8 times a game. Not much better inside 3 feet but some, say he shoots 32.2% from 3 feet to the 3 point line ( a couple percentage points better than last year). Not as high as people think, but he is going to shoot more MR shots this year and more than likely his driving % will suffer. Add in the fact he was unlucky getting to the line last year, so if he gets to the line at the average rate for a player of his style then he will shoot about 2.5 more FTs a game than last year. I expect him to shoot better at the line this year, but not quite as good as he did his rookie year. I think he can get to about 70% or so.

With all that factored in, I think he can get to about 11.5-11.8 points a game. His rebounding should go up as well, the more minutes will help, I don't think he gets much more than 6 rebounds this year. We are replacing Henderson in the lineup with Stephenson who is a terrific rebound stealer. Part of that is probably because Indiana just had Hibbert block out and let the rest get the boards, we won't do that with Al. MKGs assists should go up because of his confidence, usage and overall involvement in the offense.

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1488 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:34 pm

I think the difference between MKG averaging 10-12 points and 13-15 points is whether he play 28 minutes per game or 32 minutes per game. The real question should be "why would we hold him back?" when it's evident that MKG's emergence as a player could mean great dividends in Charlotte being a playoff contender or a championship contender. Is it worth it to play Henderson and Neal minutes and hinder MKG's progress & net positive impact on the floor in the process just because he's not currently a legitimate threat from range with shooting? I don't think so, but that's just my prerogative. I feel like MKG should play as many minutes as his body is capable in the same vein as Kemba Walker & Al Jefferson as long as he has a positive impact when he's on the floor
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1489 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:49 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:I think the difference between MKG averaging 10-12 points and 13-15 points is whether he play 28 minutes per game or 32 minutes per game. The real question should be "why would we hold him back?" when it's evident that MKG's emergence as a player could mean great dividends in Charlotte being a playoff contender or a championship contender. Is it worth it to play Henderson and Neal minutes and hinder MKG's progress & net positive impact on the floor in the process just because he's not currently a legitimate threat from range with shooting? I don't think so, but that's just my prerogative. I feel like MKG should play as many minutes as his body is capable in the same vein as Kemba Walker & Al Jefferson as long as he has a positive impact when he's on the floor

I don't think a 4-minute increase all of the sudden would mean a bump in his scoring.
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Post#1490 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:58 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:I think the difference between MKG averaging 10-12 points and 13-15 points is whether he play 28 minutes per game or 32 minutes per game. The real question should be "why would we hold him back?" when it's evident that MKG's emergence as a player could mean great dividends in Charlotte being a playoff contender or a championship contender. Is it worth it to play Henderson and Neal minutes and hinder MKG's progress & net positive impact on the floor in the process just because he's not currently a legitimate threat from range with shooting? I don't think so, but that's just my prerogative. I feel like MKG should play as many minutes as his body is capable in the same vein as Kemba Walker & Al Jefferson as long as he has a positive impact when he's on the floor

I don't think a 4-minute increase all of the sudden would mean a bump in his scoring.


I think it would as he's currently a opportunistic scorer. The shorter his minutes trend, the less likely he'll get those advantageous opportunities

During MKG's rookie season (when the offense wasn't intentionally ran to keep the ball away from him) he averaged 13.4 points per game in the 21 games that Dunlap allowed him to play over 30 minutes (averaged out to 32.8 minutes per game) http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... lits/2013/

Oddly but somewhat knowingly since Clifford didn't seem to value him that much, MKG only played over 30 minutes in 10 games out of the 62 games he played last season
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1491 » by yosemiteben » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:16 pm

Interesting stats. I agree that if MKG has a mindset of having the green light to look for his own scoring opportunities more we should see a bump in his ppg - I think that is much more significant than the 4 minute playing time difference.
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Post#1492 » by TheKingofSting » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:56 am

Two days until our MKG is unleashed!
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Post#1493 » by trins » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:01 am

Need gifs of that 2 MKG jump shots, I was only able to see the last 5 minutes of the game.
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Post#1494 » by catch20two » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:06 am

MKG gonna be our 3rd leading scorer if Cliff give him the minutes. I'm sticking to that prediction.
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Post#1495 » by HornetJail » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:15 am

catch20two wrote:MKG gonna be our 3rd leading scorer if Cliff give him the minutes. I'm sticking to that prediction.

If Lance continues to play the role of the facilitator nightly, I may take you up on that. He looked fantastic
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Post#1496 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:13 am

So this kinda slipped under the radar tonight: http://www.nba.com/hornets/hornets-exer ... and-zeller

"October 29, 2014 – Charlotte Hornets General Manager Rich Cho announced today that the team has exercised its fourth-year option on forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and its third-year option on forward Cody Zeller.

“We are excited to keep both of these young talents as part of our core for another season,” Cho said. “We have been very pleased with their improvement and look forward to seeing them continue to grow alongside the great group of guys we have in our locker room.”

The second overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft, Kidd-Gilchrist has played in 140 career games over two seasons in Charlotte, averaging 8.2 points and 5.6 rebounds in 25.2 minutes. He ranked second on the team in rebounds (5.2) and was fourth in both field goal percentage (.473) and steals (0.7). Kidd-Gilchrist earned Second Team All-Rookie honors in 2012-13 after averaging 9.0 points, 5.8 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 78 games played. As a rookie, he became only the second player in NBA history to post two games with at least 25 points and at least 12 rebounds before his 20th birthday and became just the fourth player in 20 years to record two such games in the first 25 games of his career."
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Post#1497 » by Elden Payton » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:46 am

I missed the game but I'm going to say that MKG will probably be our most important player by the end of this season.
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Post#1498 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:58 am

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MKG deciding to take matters in his own hands after all the missed calls against him these last two years.
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Post#1499 » by BeesWax » Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:57 am

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MKG deciding to take matters in his own hands after all the missed calls against him these last two years.

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Post#1500 » by EwingSweatsALot » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:08 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:Image

MKG deciding to take matters in his own hands after all the missed calls against him these last two years.


The best part is when he drills the ref with his mouthpiece!

I mean who throws a mouth piece mid game?

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