Signed By Indiana - The Jeremy Lamb Thread

[catch20two]

so you pay lamb 10 mil because you don't want to risk looking for anyone better?

how is this different than cody again?

I fully expect us to lose Lamb. We don’t have the cap space.

But if our cap situation wasn’t so bad and tied into players that never deserved the contracts in the first place I’d be a-ok with paying Lamb $10-12M annually in a 5 year deal and $12-14M annually in a 3 year deal (w/ 3rd year being a team option).

Cody never deserved to get a contract over $10M annually nevertheless $14M. I was saying $8M was acceptable back then but everyone was high on him.

[JMAC3]

Lamb shot 5/18 tonight in a game we really could of used a win. Again not saying he is trash or I wouldn’t like to have him back. Just don’t think the money makes sense when you look at everything, if you sign him back you are saying Monk is no more than a bench player (same thing we did with Frank).

I would deal him now and hope to capitalize on his trade value, maybe helps dump biz for an expiring? Or use him in a deal instead of Monk or our first. A team with cap space this summer may value his bird rights.


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[yosemiteben]

Tonight was a good example of why I won't cry if Lamb walks. Lamb disappears in Q4 and in pressure situations. He hit one game winner, but usually he disappears.

[catch20two]

Lol. Lamb is easily the most hated player on this team. Even the people that usually make excuses for every player find a way to get in on the Lamb cons in a sheepish manner. He mucked up tonight when we needed him so there’s only so much I can say. Statistically he had the type of game Monk has when given extended minutes.

[yosemiteben]

Lol. Lamb is easily the most hated player on this team.

You can't be serious

[catch20two]

Lol. Lamb is easily the most hated player on this team.

You can't be serious

Hated could be replaced with under appreciated. But I’m serious.

[JDR720]

Tonight was a good example of why I won't cry if Lamb walks. Lamb disappears in Q4 and in pressure situations. He hit one game winner, but usually he disappears.

He would be a lot better if he could dribble.

[yosemiteben]

Lol. Lamb is easily the most hated player on this team.

You can't be serious

Hated could be replaced with under appreciated. But I’m serious.

Like the whole board resents Batum. The dislike between the two isn't comparable. This is full fledged victim complex.

[316Hornets]

Lol. Lamb is easily the most hated player on this team.

You can't be serious

Hated could be replaced with under appreciated. But I’m serious.

Lamb gets hate because he's easy guy to attack and get rid of. We've got much worse, less contributing, guys on the roster but Lamb is the problem. Lamb is the problem that he can't get any space to work. It's not the guys that pass up every shot and stand still when Lamb has the ball. No, it's all Lamb's fault. The guy that has worked hard to earn his spot. The guy that puts this team on his back. It's all his fault.

[catch20two]

You can't be serious

Hated could be replaced with under appreciated. But I’m serious.

Like the whole board resents Batum. The dislike between the two isn't comparable. This is full fledged victim complex.

If Batum was putting up Lamb’s numbers the board would be ready to give him near the max. Oh, wait! That already happened lol.

[yosemiteben]

They both disappear in Q4. Batum is constantly roasted for it. Lamb isn't.

[316Hornets]

They both disappear in Q4. Batum is constantly roasted for it. Lamb isn't.

Marvin is shooting a 60% 3 point shot attempt rate. This is up from his previous high last year of 54.2% 3 point attempt rate. Pretty hard for Lamb to create any offense when the other guys on our team can't do anything but stand in 1 spot.

[316Hornets]

Batum has a 13% usage rate this season. This is the lowest of his career and more than 5% less of his previous 3 seasons. Lamb is the problem that these guys don't do anything though. I guess we should just hold the ball for 24 seconds guys and noone take shots.

[yosemiteben]

Batum has a 13% usage rate this season. This is the lowest of his career and more than 5% less of his previous 3 seasons. Lamb is the problem that these guys don't do anything though. I guess we should just hold the ball for 24 seconds guys and noone take shots.

Lamb is specifically supposed to be a primary scorer and ISO guy. That's theoretically a big part of his role.

Kemba gets to complain about there not being enough help, he tries to make things happen to make up for the lack of help. Lamb doesn't, he knows we need help and still doesn't try to step up.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I almost feel like we as a fan base are just approaching this offseason with blind optimism.

I just want to note for the record that 'blind optimism' is not something that I associate this this board. Like ever.

Like the whole board resents Batum. The dislike between the two isn't comparable.

Agreed.

I do think that folks here sometimes underestimate Lamb's contribution this year and how hard it would be for the team to replace that if he were traded.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Lamb is specifically supposed to be a primary scorer and ISO guy. That's theoretically a big part of his role.

Disagree.

That was Lamb's role last year as the leading option for the 2nd unit. This year is supposed to feature more passing and good shots being generated off that.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Double submitted

[JMAC3]

Lamb is a great example of over valuing a player just because your cupboards are bare. Sure Lamb contributes to this team and is a big reason we are where we are this season. However, take a second to look where we are- 23 wins and 25 losses.

I think he is a fringe starter in the NBA, same as Cody, Marvin and MKG. Just because we made those mistakes before doesn’t mean we should make them again. Is Lamb slightly better than those guys now? Yes, but it’s not by much. I am just afraid that if we pay him he will fall into that same category.

It’s tough to be a good team when you are paying fringe starters 8 figures. If we had a bunch of guys on cheap deals and had a lot of cap space, sure pay Lamb. However we are so tight that every dollar is going to matter and I don’t think Lamb is a game changer.

I think he is talented and can help an NBA team, probably best fit as a 6th man type. That’s nothing bad, I would just prefer to not lose him for nothing.

We can either do nothing with him, continue to play him this year and then wait around this summer for a team to offer him a contract we can’t match. Or have to renounce his rights to sign Kemba right away.

Or

We can be aggressive and package him with another player on our team to dump salary biz+Lamb for big expiring or we can use him in a deal to bring in a second star player and look to dump money another way.

Lamb might be a good fit on the Kings- they have a lot of larger expirings and cap space this summer to bring him back.


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[yosemiteben]

Lamb is specifically supposed to be a primary scorer and ISO guy. That's theoretically a big part of his role.

Disagree.

That was Lamb's role last year as the leading option for the 2nd unit. This year is supposed to feature more passing and good shots being generated off that.

Maybe that's the problem come closing time. Ball movement breaks down and no one but Kemba wants to take the shot.

Either Lamb needs to be that guy or we need someone else on the floor, because what we do now clearly isn't working.

[DY_nasty]

Lol. Lamb is easily the most hated player on this team.

You can't be serious

this is the moment i knew that catch had caught feelings for lamb