Rhymes with Nintendo - The Gerald Henderson Thread

[Prokorov]

Hell to the mother fudgin yes

It's hilarious.

Some Nets fans are in disbelief that you'd guys would do such a deal and that we'd have to give you an asset or some incentive, while you guys see any team that takes them on as being idiotic.

What are the negatives for Hendo and Big Al that make y'all want them off the team so badly when they only have one year left?

Neither player makes his teammates better. JJ would by default for his spacing alone. Kemba and MKG really need that space to slash and drive.

johnson didnt really provide much space for us last year. while he shoots the 3 well, his real value is his post game. if you are expecting joe to be a floor spacing shooter, i think you will be a bit suprised. most of his touches are post touches. not that that is all bad, he is an outstanding post player.

when you stick him on the wings and ask him to catch and shoot he becomes virtually invisible. its something the nets have tried to get him to do for 4 straight coaches. if you arent getting him his post and iso touches, he kind of shuts down.

honestly i think joes days as a wing are limited. i think he is a small ball 4. he played it the last 3rd of the season for us a ton. its a good role for him in this stage of his career.

I think you guys are kind of assuming the wrong things if you view him as a wing player/wing scorer/shooter. that really isnt his game. especially on the defensive side. he cant really gaurd the position at least not SG. id view him as a SF/PF tweener right now. whose main asset is post offense

[MasterIchiro]

JJ is a weapon if his minutes are managed well. He definitely has some mileage.

[Flip Murray]

It's hilarious.

Some Nets fans are in disbelief that you'd guys would do such a deal and that we'd have to give you an asset or some incentive, while you guys see any team that takes them on as being idiotic.

What are the negatives for Hendo and Big Al that make y'all want them off the team so badly when they only have one year left?

Joe Johnson simply fills the need for a wing shooter/scorer that we've lacked since Stephen Jackson left us four years ago. Al doesn't fit us one bit, and Hendo has needed to be upgraded for a while. It's all a matter of fit. You guys would absolutely be getting the best player in the deal if Al stays in shape, but after a point, we just needed to move on from him. Everyone in the deal expires next summer, so we risk absolutely nothing and the payoff could be huge- likely for both teams.

Sounds like a win-win.

We'll call Billy. Can you guys reach out to Cho?

if anything leaks just know its coming from Billy and not from the hornets.

[NyCeEvO]

Joe Johnson simply fills the need for a wing shooter/scorer that we've lacked since Stephen Jackson left us four years ago. Al doesn't fit us one bit, and Hendo has needed to be upgraded for a while. It's all a matter of fit. You guys would absolutely be getting the best player in the deal if Al stays in shape, but after a point, we just needed to move on from him. Everyone in the deal expires next summer, so we risk absolutely nothing and the payoff could be huge- likely for both teams.

Sounds like a win-win.

We'll call Billy. Can you guys reach out to Cho?

if anything leaks just know its coming from Billy and not from the hornets.

Oh I know...Billy has been telling the whole world when and who he wants gone all season long. Smh...

[Snidely FC]

Hendo is in. So basically anybody we draft this year is going to get ZERO playing time. Great, I smell Devin Booker.

[Flip Murray]

It's hilarious.

Some Nets fans are in disbelief that you'd guys would do such a deal and that we'd have to give you an asset or some incentive, while you guys see any team that takes them on as being idiotic.

What are the negatives for Hendo and Big Al that make y'all want them off the team so badly when they only have one year left?

Neither player makes his teammates better. JJ would by default for his spacing alone. Kemba and MKG really need that space to slash and drive.

johnson didnt really provide much space for us last year. while he shoots the 3 well, his real value is his post game. if you are expecting joe to be a floor spacing shooter, i think you will be a bit suprised. most of his touches are post touches. not that that is all bad, he is an outstanding post player.

when you stick him on the wings and ask him to catch and shoot he becomes virtually invisible. its something the nets have tried to get him to do for 4 straight coaches. if you arent getting him his post and iso touches, he kind of shuts down.

honestly i think joes days as a wing are limited. i think he is a small ball 4. he played it the last 3rd of the season for us a ton. its a good role for him in this stage of his career

I don't care what his best role is. If he can stand in the corner and somebody on the other team at least has to stand beside him then he's probably a good option at this point.

[MasterIchiro]

Hendo is in. So basically anybody we draft this year is going to get ZERO playing time. Great, I smell Devin Booker.

Booker is money! You'll love him.

[MasterIchiro]

With Hendo and Big Al the Nets will be crashing into one another like clowns in a circus.

[Prokorov]

Neither player makes his teammates better. JJ would by default for his spacing alone. Kemba and MKG really need that space to slash and drive.

johnson didnt really provide much space for us last year. while he shoots the 3 well, his real value is his post game. if you are expecting joe to be a floor spacing shooter, i think you will be a bit suprised. most of his touches are post touches. not that that is all bad, he is an outstanding post player.

when you stick him on the wings and ask him to catch and shoot he becomes virtually invisible. its something the nets have tried to get him to do for 4 straight coaches. if you arent getting him his post and iso touches, he kind of shuts down.

honestly i think joes days as a wing are limited. i think he is a small ball 4. he played it the last 3rd of the season for us a ton. its a good role for him in this stage of his career

I don't care what his best role is. If he can stand in the corner and somebody on the other team at least has to stand beside him then he's probably a good option at this point.

he isnt really going to take that shot is what im saying. maybe in transition. if he gets it in the corner in the half court he is going to put in on the floor. he isnt a guy teams stick to or close out on out there. most of his threes are on the wing and off the dribble and in transition. i dont really see him as a viable floor spacer. mostly because guys know he wont take that corner 3

i understand where you are coming from... and nets fans have said this very same things for 3 years with 4 coaches. maybe charlotte can get him to be a catch and shoot guy. i dont think you can teach an old dog new tricks in that scenario.

i think he will help you. i think he can score. just not help in the manner you think he will

[Flip Murray]

johnson didnt really provide much space for us last year. while he shoots the 3 well, his real value is his post game. if you are expecting joe to be a floor spacing shooter, i think you will be a bit suprised. most of his touches are post touches. not that that is all bad, he is an outstanding post player.

when you stick him on the wings and ask him to catch and shoot he becomes virtually invisible. its something the nets have tried to get him to do for 4 straight coaches. if you arent getting him his post and iso touches, he kind of shuts down.

honestly i think joes days as a wing are limited. i think he is a small ball 4. he played it the last 3rd of the season for us a ton. its a good role for him in this stage of his career

I don't care what his best role is. If he can stand in the corner and somebody on the other team at least has to stand beside him then he's probably a good option at this point.

he isnt really going to take that shot is what im saying. maybe in transition. if he gets it in the corner in the half court he is going to put in on the floor. he isnt a guy teams stick to or close out on out there. most of his threes are on the wing and off the dribble and in transition. i dont really see him as a viable floor spacer. mostly because guys know he wont take that corner 3

well i'll defer to you on that knowledge but know this - he's better than any option we have. You used the phrase "most of his threes" implying that he hits some threes.

[Prokorov]

With Hendo and Big Al the Nets will be crashing into one another like clowns in a circus.

that is better then sleeping on the job.

spacing really isnt an issue for us. effort is. we were the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last year and spacing wasnt near one of our 3 biggest issues. our bigs all shoot the ball from the perimeter, our whole team is preimter oriented actually. we need guys who want to get to the rim, and we need guys who want to try hard every now and then

i think its a good trade for both teams.

[MasterIchiro]

I'd rather trade Al for Gordon over JJ and maybe get rid of Brian Roberts in that deal. But I definitely want to move Hendo. I'd take Jack for him or jack squat.

[Prokorov]

I don't care what his best role is. If he can stand in the corner and somebody on the other team at least has to stand beside him then he's probably a good option at this point.

he isnt really going to take that shot is what im saying. maybe in transition. if he gets it in the corner in the half court he is going to put in on the floor. he isnt a guy teams stick to or close out on out there. most of his threes are on the wing and off the dribble and in transition. i dont really see him as a viable floor spacer. mostly because guys know he wont take that corner 3

well i'll defer to you on that knowledge but know this - he's better than any option we have. You used the phrase "most of his threes" implying that he hits some threes.

yea, he is a good 3 point shooter... it just mostly comes on iso pull ups and in transition. im not saying he cant shoot them, just that he wont shoot them in catch and shoot situations much if at all. and is kind of in a coma when he doesnt have the ball

[Prokorov]

I'd rather trade Al for Gordon over JJ and maybe get rid of Brian Roberts in that deal. But I definitely want to move Hendo. I'd take Jack for him or jack squat.

would you guys do hendo/roberts/jefferson for dwill and our #29 pick?

[MasterIchiro]

With Hendo and Big Al the Nets will be crashing into one another like clowns in a circus.

that is better then sleeping on the job.

spacing really isnt an issue for us. effort is. we were the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last year and spacing wasnt near one of our 3 biggest issues. our bigs all shoot the ball from the perimeter, our whole team is preimter oriented actually. we need guys who want to get to the rim, and we need guys who want to try hard every now and then

i think its a good trade for both teams.

They're also both shot clock carnivores. They will devour the **** out of it which will demoralize the players you want to inspire.

[MasterIchiro]

I'd rather trade Al for Gordon over JJ and maybe get rid of Brian Roberts in that deal. But I definitely want to move Hendo. I'd take Jack for him or jack squat.

would you guys do hendo/roberts/jefferson for dwill and our #29 pick?

I'd do Hendo + Big Al + Roberts for Dwill + Plumlee + 29.

[Prokorov]

With Hendo and Big Al the Nets will be crashing into one another like clowns in a circus.

that is better then sleeping on the job.

spacing really isnt an issue for us. effort is. we were the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last year and spacing wasnt near one of our 3 biggest issues. our bigs all shoot the ball from the perimeter, our whole team is preimter oriented actually. we need guys who want to get to the rim, and we need guys who want to try hard every now and then

i think its a good trade for both teams.

They're also both shot clock carnivores. They will devour the **** out of it which will demoralize the players you want to inspire.

Joe johnson is the king of killing the shot clock with his mark jackson like 12 second back downs in the post.

and we dont have any players to inspire. the guys we have are lost causes, dogs, and the biggest pansies in the league. we need guys who play hard, not to inspire others to play hard. KG and piece couldnt get these guys inspired... no one will. we will suck next year no matter what, id prefer to do it with 5 guys who care. Jack | Anderson | Henderson | Thad | Brook gives us 4 guys who will play hard and a center who will at least score efficiently.

[Prokorov]

I'd rather trade Al for Gordon over JJ and maybe get rid of Brian Roberts in that deal. But I definitely want to move Hendo. I'd take Jack for him or jack squat.

would you guys do hendo/roberts/jefferson for dwill and our #29 pick?

I'd do Hendo + Big Al + Roberts for Dwill + Plumlee + 29.

i wouldnt include both plumlee and 29, but id include either one of them.

at that price it would make more sense to stretch dwill after july 1, making him count at 3 years/7M per

[MasterIchiro]

that is better then sleeping on the job.

spacing really isnt an issue for us. effort is. we were the worst 3 point shooting team in the NBA last year and spacing wasnt near one of our 3 biggest issues. our bigs all shoot the ball from the perimeter, our whole team is preimter oriented actually. we need guys who want to get to the rim, and we need guys who want to try hard every now and then

i think its a good trade for both teams.

They're also both shot clock carnivores. They will devour the **** out of it which will demoralize the players you want to inspire.

Joe johnson is the king of killing the shot clock with his mark jackson like 12 second back downs in the post.

and we dont have any players to inspire. the guys we have are lost causes, dogs, and the biggest pansies in the league. we need guys who play hard, not to inspire others to play hard. KG and piece couldnt get these guys inspired... no one will. we will suck next year no matter what, id prefer to do it with 5 guys who care. Jack | Anderson | Henderson | Thad | Brook gives us 4 guys who will play hard and a center who will at least score efficiently.

Oh man, I thought JJ was better at recognizing double teams and passing out of traffic.

[MasterIchiro]

would you guys do hendo/roberts/jefferson for dwill and our #29 pick?

I'd do Hendo + Big Al + Roberts for Dwill + Plumlee + 29.

i wouldnt include both plumlee and 29, but id include either one of them.

at that price it would make more sense to stretch dwill after july 1, making him count at 3 years/7M per

I'd take on DWill's contract in order to get Plumlee. Either Kemba or DWill could play off ball.

Kemba
DWill/Booker
MKG/PJ
Cody/Vonleh
Plumlee/Biz

Pretty fun team right there.