LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2)

[JMAC3]

I'm one foot in and one out on Melo. If he's being held out due to particularly conservative injury management that results in his total number of games played increasing and him staying healthy later into the season, then I can get on board with that.

If he's just hurt and this is another season of him playing less than 50 games, then I'm officially over it. You can't build like that.

Remember when we signed all those guards for the time Melo went down... then we waived Dinwiddie and NSJ.
So we could keep the corpses of Mason and Pat.

[fatlever]

Read on Twitter

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Charles Lee: "I'm actually excited about the progress (LaMelo Ball)'s been making every day. He's feeling a little bit better, able to do more on the court."

"Our performance staff and him have sat down—all three of us actually—laid out a plan and Melo was excited about it. I'm excited about it. Our organization is excited about it. At the end of the day, we're trying to focus on how we can continue to maximize how many games he can play this season."

"He's continuing to strengthen and work on things so that he's able to play in as many games as possible. The movement gets better and better every day."



tldr
everyone is really excited about melo's injury

[SWedd523]

tldr Corporate Jargon flavored smoke being blown up your ass

[fatlever]

[Liver_Pooty]

Lol. I’m not even sure what to say to what I just saw to be honest.

[fatlever]

Lol. I’m not even sure what to say to what I just saw to be honest.

i don't know about you, but i'm excited.

[yosemiteben]

I'm one foot in and one out on Melo. If he's being held out due to particularly conservative injury management that results in his total number of games played increasing and him staying healthy later into the season, then I can get on board with that.

If he's just hurt and this is another season of him playing less than 50 games, then I'm officially over it. You can't build like that.

Remember when we signed all those guards for the time Melo went down... then we waived Dinwiddie and NSJ.
So we could keep the corpses of Mason and Pat.

I'm not really worried about that, I'm pretty ok with our guard rotation or at least I wouldn't feel better about it if Dinwiddie or NSJ were around.

I actually think Connaughton has been useful and am glad he's around.

[fatlever]

next time melo plays a game for hornets
a. nov
b. dec
c. jan
d. feb
e. next season
f. never

[Braggins]

His value is going to be at an all time low if they try to trade him while hes not even playing games. Him not playing isn't why this team isn't good. it would be one thing if they had a roster ready to make playoff runs and they were being held back because LaMelo isn't healthy. They will also get a high pick regardless because the team just isn't good. I feel like trading him now is more about getting rid of fan expectations so they can just go back to tanking indefinitely without as much fuss.

I don't want another Mark situation where they trade a talented player at the worst possible time and get a garbage return. Unless they are going to get a return that we would all feel good about I would rather just keep him for now and try to hope he gets healthy enough that they can have the possibility of competing in the next couple years, or his value gets built back up for a better trade package later. I just don't see what the rush is to move off of him right now unless its just to alleviate pressure from the front office.

I also think this front office sucks and don't trust them or really believe they have much more vision about building a good team than the last regime, so I'm just not thrilled about this lame duck front office trading away the most talented player in franchise history to buy themselves some more time before everyone figures out they have no idea what they are doing. Maybe I'm reading into to things too much and over-speculating, but this situation just doesn't feel right to me.

[Braggins]

Lol. I’m not even sure what to say to what I just saw to be honest.

i don't know about you, but i'm excited.

Its getting to the point where every time I hear Charles Lee speak I end up rolling my eyes. Is this guy a basketball coach or a public relations representative... Its like listening to a White House Press secretary.

[SWedd523]

next time melo plays a game for hornets
a. nov
b. dec
c. jan
d. feb
e. next season
f. never

I dunno but I sure am excited

[SWedd523]

His value is going to be at an all time low if they try to trade him while hes not even playing games. Him not playing isn't why this team isn't good. it would be one thing if they had a roster ready to make playoff runs and they were being held back because LaMelo isn't healthy. They will get a high pick regardless because the team just isn't good. I feel like trading him now is more about getting rid of fan expectations so they can just go back to tanking indefinitely without as much fuss.

I don't want another Mark situation where they trade a talented player at the worst possible time and get a garbage return. Unless they are going to get a return that we would all feel good about I would rather just keep him for now and try to hope he gets healthy enough that they can have the possibility of competing in the next couple years, or his value gets built back up for a better trade package later. I just don't see what the rush is to move off of him right now unless its just to alleviate pressure from the front office.

I also think this front office sucks and don't trust them or really believe they have much more vision about building a good team than the last regime, so I'm just not thrilled about this lame duck front office trading away the most talented player in franchise history to buy themselves some more time before everyone figures out they have no idea what they are doing. Maybe I'm reading into to things too much and over-speculating, but this situation just doesn't feel right to me.

But when is he ever playing games?

I keep seeing this sentiment. "We can't trade him right now because he's not playing" "We have to wait until he's healthy" "We can't make a decision until he's back on the floor" " We can't trade him right now because they'll get crap in return"

Am I missing the point or are folks still working under the misunderstanding that he's ever going back to how he was pre-pre-pre-pre-pre injury?

[yosemiteben]

Thinking about my view a bit, even if he doesn't hit the games played mark that I'm hoping I'm not thinking they need to rush and trade him for whatever they can get. For me it's more just philosophically and emotionally I'm detached. I'm not going to be mad if we keep him for a year to try to increase his value or because the right deal wasn't there, but he's not a cornerstone that you can build on and I don't want to build a team around him if he never can stay healthy.

[Braggins]

Spoiler:

His value is going to be at an all time low if they try to trade him while hes not even playing games. Him not playing isn't why this team isn't good. it would be one thing if they had a roster ready to make playoff runs and they were being held back because LaMelo isn't healthy. They will get a high pick regardless because the team just isn't good. I feel like trading him now is more about getting rid of fan expectations so they can just go back to tanking indefinitely without as much fuss.

I don't want another Mark situation where they trade a talented player at the worst possible time and get a garbage return. Unless they are going to get a return that we would all feel good about I would rather just keep him for now and try to hope he gets healthy enough that they can have the possibility of competing in the next couple years, or his value gets built back up for a better trade package later. I just don't see what the rush is to move off of him right now unless its just to alleviate pressure from the front office.

I also think this front office sucks and don't trust them or really believe they have much more vision about building a good team than the last regime, so I'm just not thrilled about this lame duck front office trading away the most talented player in franchise history to buy themselves some more time before everyone figures out they have no idea what they are doing. Maybe I'm reading into to things too much and over-speculating, but this situation just doesn't feel right to me.

But when is he ever playing games?

I keep seeing this sentiment. "We can't trade him right now because he's not playing" "We have to wait until he's healthy" "We can't make a decision until he's back on the floor" " We can't trade him right now because they'll get crap in return"

Am I missing the point or are folks still working under the misunderstanding that he's ever going back to how he was pre-pre-pre-pre-pre injury?

I hear ya. Its a tricky situation. I don't really have faith that his health will ever get right, but it wouldn't be that shocking either if it did. I'm not entirely against trading him.

I'm having a little trouble fully explaining my thoughts on this. Like, initially at the beginning of the season people were excited and thought the team might be good, which I don't think was ever the case, and as soon as LaMelo went down the discussion around the team has focused on him being the problem and the excuse for why the team isn't competitive, which I think distracts from the general point that the team just sucks (and the front office sucks imo). I guess my point is that none of this matters and trading LaMelo isn't going to help if the front office making all these moves doesn't know what they are doing. I guess I just don't feel right about LaMelo being the first head to roll, if that makes sense.

[JDR720]

So... he's been unable to do regular workouts on the court for about a week?

Yeah, he has chronic ankle issues. Need to cut bait before he breaks one again.

[JustBuzzin]

Guys please stop with the LaMelo trade value crap.

His value will be low even if he plays. His career tells us he's good for half a season with all-star caliber stats.

This idea that we are going to get max value because he's playing is just not true. If we going to trade him just get it over with. You can't expect great value when his health has always been a huge question mark.

[fatlever]

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More speculation about internal disagreements about the status of injuries. This feels not too dissimilar from The Mark Williams situation. And I feel like this isn't the first time we've heard Rumblings about the front office questioning lamelo's injuries.

Does a lot of this really boil down to the fact that lamelo just refuses to play through any type of discomfort, while the front office thinks he should? I'm just thinking out loud.

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[yosemiteben]

That guy is also on my list of people who know nothing and think it's fun to act like they do

[Walt Cronkite]

That guy is also on my list of people who know nothing and think it's fun to act like they do

Probably a massive list ya got there.

[yosemiteben]

That guy is also on my list of people who know nothing and think it's fun to act like they do

Probably a massive list ya got there.

Nah, not really, most people don't act like they have super secret info on what the team is thinking