2024 Draft Prospects

Post #1521 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:37 pm

All I know is Castle should go ahead and fire his agent for not cleaning up this measurement issue

GiggitySmalls · Post #1522 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:39 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
MugzZo wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Kid is a baller. My only question mark was his athletic ability at the next level. The fact he is one of the most athletic players in this draft really put him at the top of my list.

In a weak draft, we can take a chance on a 24yr old prospect. Like you said he's NBA ready.
I really would love Holland though. He's got the size and length to guard multiple positions. He's aggressive. He's got some of that dawg in him. He's basically 6'7 with a near 6'11 with wingspan and an 8'8 standing reach. He has very similar dimensions to Aaron Gordon.

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Holland is solid, but what if I told you Knecht was more athletic and is a more advanced scorer than Holland right now?

If the age concerns you I get it, but Knecht has shown to be the best athlete in this draft. Given his scoring ability it's hard to pass that up imo. Imagine Knecht/Miller waiting for the 3ball from a Melo pass.

My thing is if we draft Knecht, we probably need to trade Miles for a legit pf who can play defense and rebound. Someone like Evan Mobley would be nice.

I'd happily draft knecht and move miles for Mobley. Both moves together would make is a better team.

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Chapelchilla · Post #1523 » by **Chapelchilla** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:45 pm

MugzZo wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
MugzZo wrote:I really would love Holland though. He's got the size and length to guard multiple positions. He's aggressive. He's got some of that dawg in him. He's basically 6'7 with a near 6'11 with wingspan and an 8'8 standing reach. He has very similar dimensions to Aaron Gordon.

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Holland is solid, but what if I told you Knecht was more athletic and is a more advanced scorer than Holland right now?

If the age concerns you I get it, but Knecht has shown to be the best athlete in this draft. Given his scoring ability it's hard to pass that up imo. Imagine Knecht/Miller waiting for the 3ball from a Melo pass.

My thing is if we draft Knecht, we probably need to trade Miles for a legit pf who can play defense and rebound. Someone like Evan Mobley would be nice.
I'd happily draft knecht and move miles for Mobley. Both moves together would make is a better team.

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Also, less baggage

KingCat · Post #1524 » by **KingCat** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:46 pm

No way Cleveland would take Miles for Mobley. Would probably have to add Mark to that deal.

GiggitySmalls · Post #1525 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:46 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
MugzZo wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Holland is solid, but what if I told you Knecht was more athletic and is a more advanced scorer than Holland right now?

If the age concerns you I get it, but Knecht has shown to be the best athlete in this draft. Given his scoring ability it's hard to pass that up imo. Imagine Knecht/Miller waiting for the 3ball from a Melo pass.

My thing is if we draft Knecht, we probably need to trade Miles for a legit pf who can play defense and rebound. Someone like Evan Mobley would be nice.
I'd happily draft knecht and move miles for Mobley. Both moves together would make is a better team.

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Also, less baggage

Exactly. Less baggage and more talent. That's the recipe.

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GiggitySmalls · Post #1526 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:46 pm

KingCat wrote:No way Cleveland would take Miles for Mobley. Would probably have to add Mark to that deal.

We could add a 2027 first perhaps.

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Liver_Pooty · Post #1527 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:51 pm

MugzZo wrote:
KingCat wrote:No way Cleveland would take Miles for Mobley. Would probably have to add Mark to that deal.
We could add a 2027 first perhaps.

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They'd want more than even that lol

EmpireFalls · Post #1528 » by **EmpireFalls** » Mon May 13, 2024 8:54 pm

MugzZo wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
MugzZo wrote:I am to be honest. Holland is the guy at the moment. Knecht wouldn't be a bad pick in this draft though. Probably one of the most nba ready prospects.

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Kid is a baller. My only question mark was his athletic ability at the next level. The fact he is one of the most athletic players in this draft really put him at the top of my list.

In a weak draft, we can take a chance on a 24yr old prospect. Like you said he's NBA ready.
I really would love Holland though. He's got the size and length to guard multiple positions. He's aggressive. He's got some of that dawg in him. He's basically 6'7 with a near 6'11 with wingspan and an 8'8 standing reach. He has very similar dimensions to Aaron Gordon.

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he's so strong for his age. He's still going to be 18 at draft day, and was coming off a HS education where he played a sort of 4 or small ball 5 even role, not a true wing. That's why I'm a little nicer on Holland than everyone else, he entered the G league basically as a 17 year old.

SWedd523 · Post #1529 » by **SWedd523** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:05 pm

JDR720 wrote:Castle is a less bulky Marcus Smart at the high end, Justice Winslow at the low.

So my picks, unless one of the others drop, are either Holland or Clingan. I'd still take Reed too.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

The Ringer has us taking Reed. Clingan going #2 and Holland 9th.

Reed is significantly smaller than Castle, so I don't see how anyone can trust him to be anything remarkable on the defensive end.

I don't care how good you can shoot if you're 6'1/6'3

Post #1530 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:11 pm

Knecht is 23 and scouting report suggests he kinda sucks on defense. Not that interesting to me.

Eagerly awaiting those Castle measurements.

SWedd523 · Post #1531 » by **SWedd523** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:13 pm

amcoolio wrote:Edey's measurements came in strong. **** it, just take Edey. GoBobs is right

stop it

Bassman · Post #1532 » by **Bassman** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:32 pm

That is BAD NEWS on Topic. Another injury apparently to the same knee that he hurt earlier in the season. They had to help carry him so he put no pressure on his leg. If I’m a lottery GM, I’m staying well away from him now.

If Topic is now radioactive, that changes the dynamic of the first 5 ahead of us.

GoBobs · Post #1533 » by **GoBobs** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:47 pm

Bassman wrote:That is BAD NEWS on Topic. Another injury apparently to the same knee that he hurt earlier in the season. They had to help carry him so he put no pressure on his leg. If I’m a lottery GM, I’m staying well away from him now.

If Topic is now radioactive, that changes the dynamic of the first 5 ahead of us.

alright so speculating... but...

1. Sarr
2. Holland
3. Risacher
4. Clingan
5. Buzelis

who am I missing?

JustBuzzin · Post #1534 » by **JustBuzzin** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:47 pm

What's taking so long on the Castle height measurement?

wilson115 · Post #1535 » by **wilson115** » Mon May 13, 2024 9:51 pm

Really sucks for Topic and maybe the Hornets. Dillingham's and Sheppard's measurables too. Likely the Wizards do go for a center at #2 and the Spurs take one of the wings at #4... W/c leaves the Hornets with the very real possibility of picking at #6 with Holland, Buzelis, and Clingan all off the board. Damn it.

LofJ wrote:Solid numbers for Holland:

Read on Twitter

PJ Washington taped out the same height w/o shoes, 6'8" with them. So I guess Ron Holland's listed 6'8" is an honest number.

Grant, Miles, and Jaylen Brown all measured 6'5"ish barefoot, with Jaylen topping that list with 6'11.75" condor arms.

Aaron Gordon and Paul George both came out 6'7"ish w/o shoes with 6'11"ish wingspans. So Ron's smack dab for an NBA wing.

wilson115 · Post #1536 » by **wilson115** » Mon May 13, 2024 10:22 pm

So what do we think of this kid right now? What happens if it comes down to him, Castle, and Edey at #6?

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Spoiler:

Post #1537 » by **JDR720** » Mon May 13, 2024 10:27 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Castle is a less bulky Marcus Smart at the high end, Justice Winslow at the low.

So my picks, unless one of the others drop, are either Holland or Clingan. I'd still take Reed too.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

The Ringer has us taking Reed. Clingan going #2 and Holland 9th.

Reed is significantly smaller than Castle, so I don't see how anyone can trust him to be anything remarkable on the defensive end.

I don't care how good you can shoot if you're 6'1/6'3

He doesn't have to be remarkable, he has the smarts and feel to play good defense against PG's and certain SG's.

He's not some dwarf. One of the best players in this years playoffs (Brunson) is 6'1 too.

wilson115 · Post #1538 » by **wilson115** » Mon May 13, 2024 10:30 pm

Uh... looking at this gives me a pretty good idea how Reed gets to be "remarkable" on D.

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Spoiler:

amcoolio · Post #1539 » by **amcoolio** » Mon May 13, 2024 10:31 pm

Russillo just said that multiple team execs texted him that the #1 pick in this draft is the equivalent of the #7 or #8 pick in most drafts, the draft is so bad. Which means i wouldn’t get caught up in where a guy is mocked, because 3-20 are likely all the same value of prospect. So why not someone like McCain at 6. Like Jacquez he just seems to be that gritty type of Grizzlies or Heat player that everyone slept on and plays super hard on both ends of the floor

SWedd523 · Post #1540 » by **SWedd523** » Mon May 13, 2024 10:36 pm

JDR720 wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Castle is a less bulky Marcus Smart at the high end, Justice Winslow at the low.

So my picks, unless one of the others drop, are either Holland or Clingan. I'd still take Reed too.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

The Ringer has us taking Reed. Clingan going #2 and Holland 9th.

Reed is significantly smaller than Castle, so I don't see how anyone can trust him to be anything remarkable on the defensive end.

I don't care how good you can shoot if you're 6'1/6'3

He doesn't have to be remarkable, he has the smarts and feel to play good defense against PG's and certain SG's.

He's not some dwarf. One of the best players in this years playoffs (Brunson) is 6'1 too.

Yeah tell Melo and his accountant Reed to go out and play some perimeter defense against any good team and not get embarrassed.

Smart is a benefit that sets you apart and puts you over the top, it doesn't cover up not physically having it.