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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1541 » by DY_nasty » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:47 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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How come they didn't talk up Wiseman? Rumor was they're not high on him.

there's plenty of mocks with wiseman in GS though lol. agents and stations tap dance for all these guys. and even then, downplaying guys is part of this game too

out of the entire top 10 - GS is the main team out to deal. there's zero chance that they're looking at leaving the draft with any of these guys and wiggins/dray still on the books as a win.


In order for your claim about Warriors hyping Avdija to make sense as part of some plan to inflate the value of the top picks, they'd have to also hype Wiseman. So your point about Avdija doesn't make any sense.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-not-high-james-wiseman-wont-draft-him-no-2

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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1542 » by yosemiteben » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:48 pm

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How come they didn't talk up Wiseman? Rumor was they're not high on him.

Predraft rumors don't mean anything.


Can't have it both ways. Either they're high on Avdija and not high on Wiseman or they're setting a smokescreen that they're high on both. If they're setting a smokescreen then why this?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-not-high-james-wiseman-wont-draft-him-no-2

Or rumors don't matter and aren't signals of anything meaningful.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1543 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:49 pm

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DY_nasty wrote:there's plenty of mocks with wiseman in GS though lol. agents and stations tap dance for all these guys. and even then, downplaying guys is part of this game too

out of the entire top 10 - GS is the main team out to deal. there's zero chance that they're looking at leaving the draft with any of these guys and wiggins/dray still on the books as a win.


In order for your claim about Warriors hyping Avdija to make sense as part of some plan to inflate the value of the top picks, they'd have to also hype Wiseman. So your point about Avdija doesn't make any sense.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-not-high-james-wiseman-wont-draft-him-no-2

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Well you claimed they're gonna hype all these top picks. But they haven't done that with Wiseman.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1544 » by DY_nasty » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:49 pm

with all of our trips to the lottery, some stuff should just stand out to everyone by now lol
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1545 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:49 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
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yosemiteben wrote:Predraft rumors don't mean anything.


Can't have it both ways. Either they're high on Avdija and not high on Wiseman or they're setting a smokescreen that they're high on both. If they're setting a smokescreen then why this?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-not-high-james-wiseman-wont-draft-him-no-2

Or rumors don't matter and aren't signals of anything meaningful.


Or they're blown away by Avdija because he's **** awesome.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1546 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:50 pm

Cognitive dissonance.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1547 » by DY_nasty » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:52 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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In order for your claim about Warriors hyping Avdija to make sense as part of some plan to inflate the value of the top picks, they'd have to also hype Wiseman. So your point about Avdija doesn't make any sense.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-not-high-james-wiseman-wont-draft-him-no-2

k :roll:


Well you claimed they're gonna hype all these top picks. But they haven't done that with Wiseman.

out of the entire top 10 - GS is the main team out to deal. there's zero chance that they're looking at leaving the draft with any of these guys and wiggins/dray still on the books as a win.

there's plenty of mocks with wiseman in GS though lol. agents and stations tap dance for all these guys.

and even then, downplaying guys is part of this game too

maybe if i rearrange my post, your reading comprehension will kick in. ridiculous you're doing this and i'm one of the first people here who was on the deni hype train :lol:
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1548 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:56 pm

DY_nasty wrote:
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DY_nasty wrote:k :roll:


Well you claimed they're gonna hype all these top picks. But they haven't done that with Wiseman.

out of the entire top 10 - GS is the main team out to deal. there's zero chance that they're looking at leaving the draft with any of these guys and wiggins/dray still on the books as a win.

there's plenty of mocks with wiseman in GS though lol. agents and stations tap dance for all these guys.

and even then, downplaying guys is part of this game too

maybe if i rearrange my post, your reading comprehension will kick in. ridiculous you're doing this and i'm one of the first people here who was on the deni hype train :lol:


Or the Warriors are blown away by Avdija. And not every rumor is some conspiracy or convoluted way to inflate and deflate prospect value at will. Not the way the Warriors do business either. This is really simple. But for some reason you can't wrap your head around it. :lol:
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1549 » by yosemiteben » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:57 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
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Can't have it both ways. Either they're high on Avdija and not high on Wiseman or they're setting a smokescreen that they're high on both. If they're setting a smokescreen then why this?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-not-high-james-wiseman-wont-draft-him-no-2

Or rumors don't matter and aren't signals of anything meaningful.


Or they're blown away by Avdija because he's **** awesome.

Sure, also possible.

But every year there are rumors about teams liking prospects they don't end up drafting. I wouldn't use random rumors to puff your chest out about your preferred prospect, just stand by your opinion.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1550 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:00 am

So the Warriors are blown away by Avdija and not high on Wiseman. Impossible! Must be Jedi mind trick!
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1551 » by DY_nasty » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:07 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:
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Well you claimed they're gonna hype all these top picks. But they haven't done that with Wiseman.

out of the entire top 10 - GS is the main team out to deal. there's zero chance that they're looking at leaving the draft with any of these guys and wiggins/dray still on the books as a win.

there's plenty of mocks with wiseman in GS though lol. agents and stations tap dance for all these guys.

and even then, downplaying guys is part of this game too

maybe if i rearrange my post, your reading comprehension will kick in. ridiculous you're doing this and i'm one of the first people here who was on the deni hype train :lol:


Or the Warriors are blown away by Avdija. And not every rumor is some conspiracy or convoluted way to inflate and deflate prospect value at will. Not the way the Warriors do business either. This is really simple. But for some reason you can't wrap your head around it. :loll:
Its not the way the Warriors do business? :lol:

This is the same team that ran interference on KD's behalf with media to get him, while he was with them and promptly made it known as soon as he left, the same team that tanked for a chance at a coin flip, the same team that brought iguodala on initially with dirt on the nuggets in mind, and the team that had steph sit a whole year for a two month injury to tank, etc.

they're not special or spectacularly moral... they're opportunistic and plan ahead with that in mind.

there's no conspiracy necessary to say that a championship level team isn't looking to waste time with a rookie when said rookie is worth more as a trade piece. you're acting like the lakers didn't just throw away an entire rebuild's worth of picks away to get the guys they needed for a run. again, i like deni - but GS? pfft. that's really cute of them.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1552 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:10 am

DY_nasty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:out of the entire top 10 - GS is the main team out to deal. there's zero chance that they're looking at leaving the draft with any of these guys and wiggins/dray still on the books as a win.

there's plenty of mocks with wiseman in GS though lol. agents and stations tap dance for all these guys.

and even then, downplaying guys is part of this game too

maybe if i rearrange my post, your reading comprehension will kick in. ridiculous you're doing this and i'm one of the first people here who was on the deni hype train :lol:


Or the Warriors are blown away by Avdija. And not every rumor is some conspiracy or convoluted way to inflate and deflate prospect value at will. Not the way the Warriors do business either. This is really simple. But for some reason you can't wrap your head around it. :loll:
Its not the way the Warriors do business? :lol:

This is the same team that ran interference on KD's behalf with media to get him, while he was with them and promptly made it known as soon as he left, the same team that tanked for a chance at a coin flip, the same team that brought iguodala on initially with dirt on the nuggets in mind, and the team that had steph sit a whole year for a two month injury to tank, etc.

they're not special or spectacularly moral... they're opportunistic and plan ahead with that in mind.

there's no conspiracy necessary to say that a championship level team isn't looking to waste time with a rookie when said rookie is worth more as a trade piece. you're acting like the lakers didn't just throw away an entire rebuild's worth of picks away to get the guys they needed for a run. again, i like deni - but GS? pfft. that's really cute of them.


Stick to your original point that the Warriors will hype all the top picks.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1553 » by DY_nasty » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:11 am

they already did
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1554 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:17 am

DY_nasty wrote:they already did


Bull ****. :lol:

Their beat writer claimed to have intel from sources within the Warriors org. The other rumor came from what sources "around the league" believe the Warriors will do. That's how mocks are made, from what outsiders predict, agents and execs who aren't employed within an org.

Not to mention it's inconsistent to both bash and hype the same prospect.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1555 » by DY_nasty » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:18 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:they already did


Bull ****. :lol:

Their beat writer claimed to have intel from sources within the Warriors org. The other rumor came from what sources "around the league" believe the Warriors will do. That's how mocks are made, from what outsiders predict, agents and execs who aren't employed within an org.

Not to mention it's inconsistent to both bash and hype the same prospect.
agents and stations tap dance for all these guys.

out of the entire top 10 - GS is the main team out to deal. there's zero chance that they're looking at leaving the draft with any of these guys and wiggins/dray still on the books as a win.

and even then, downplaying guys is part of this game too

there's plenty of mocks with wiseman in GS though lol.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1556 » by James Gatz » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:48 am

Read on Twitter


He's not going to be there at 32 :(
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1557 » by BigSlam » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:10 am

DY_nasty wrote:...especially while Minnesota continues to show the rest of the league how sweaty their palms are regarding the #1 overall.

In the weeks leading up to draft night, which front office do you think had the most sleepless nights:

Minnesota this year.
Cleveland in 2013.
Toronto in 2006.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1558 » by UNCNYC » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:31 am

James Gatz wrote:
Read on Twitter


He's not going to be there at 32 :(


He might be. It's a weird draft in a weird year in a weird season
UPDATED `10-22-2025



These are who I want with our picks in order



THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen

UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1559 » by driveandkick » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:09 am

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Read on Twitter
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This is surprising, but I wonder if it's smoke. I like that if he's our guy, they're doing their work and not being passive.

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Interesting? Yes. Noteworthy? Absolutely! But this wording maybe wasn’t the best. I don’t see this as “making a move” they simply went to scout a prospect like every team is doing.
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Re: 2020 Draft Discussion 

Post#1560 » by luciano-davidwesley » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:13 am

MasterIchiro wrote:So the Warriors are blown away by Avdija and not high on Wiseman. Impossible! Must be Jedi mind trick!

Maybe Wiseman is the only player they'd keep if drafted so they are hedging their bets?

Hoping Wiseman isn't drafted by Min but if he is talking up the other players they don't want for their trade value.

Who'd have thought a team light on centers might want to grab someone who will be at worst a super athletic, long rim runner in his rookie year in a position of need.

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