Fake Trade Thread #3

[luciano-davidwesley]

How would folks feel about letting Monk walk and using cap space on Lonzo Ball?

I think Monk is gone regardless, but I could see a Graham for Lonzo sign and trade between us and Pelicans.

I'm a pretty big fan of draft Moody, sign Lonzo and then sign Theis/Noel

Melo- Lonzo
Rozier- Moody/Lonzo
Gordon- Moody/Miles
PJ- Miles
Noel/PJ

Is a pretty nice 8 man rotation for the playoffs with McDaniels, Martin twins filling in the gaps for the regular season.

Also, those three would all really improve our defense quick.

I think McDaniels can become more than an end of the bench player. His skillset and length are intriguing.

[JMAC3]

I think McDaniels can become more than an end of the bench player. His skillset and length are intriguing.

He could, but I also don't want to depend on a second-rounder that averaged 7.6 pts per game to be a main contributor. If it happens great, but we should be trying to sign guys to play over him.

[BleedGreen1989]

I'd trade PJ & 11 for Wood for sure

LaMelo-Rozier-Hayward-Miles-Wood

That could potentially be one of the best offenses in the NBA outside of Brooklyn

Christian Wood puts up stats, but he isn't a good basketball player. His teammates don't like playing with him.

I would not give up PJ nor 11 for him, let alone both.

Where does this statement come from?

[JMAC3]

I'd trade PJ & 11 for Wood for sure

LaMelo-Rozier-Hayward-Miles-Wood

That could potentially be one of the best offenses in the NBA outside of Brooklyn

Christian Wood puts up stats, but he isn't a good basketball player. His teammates don't like playing with him.

I would not give up PJ nor 11 for him, let alone both.

Where does this statement come from?

Have heard it on multiple podcasts from Ryen Russillo, Kevin O’Conner and the fact Detroit would rather pay Mason Plumlee 8 million instead of Wood 13 million speaks volumes to me.

[Liver_Pooty]

Christian Wood puts up stats, but he isn't a good basketball player. His teammates don't like playing with him.

I would not give up PJ nor 11 for him, let alone both.

Where does this statement come from?

Have heard it on multiple podcasts from Ryen Russillo, Kevin O’Conner and the fact Detroit would rather pay Mason Plumlee 8 million instead of Wood 13 million speaks volumes to me.

Well, that is Detroit were talking about.

[BleedGreen1989]

Where does this statement come from?

Have heard it on multiple podcasts from Ryen Russillo, Kevin O’Conner and the fact Detroit would rather pay Mason Plumlee 8 million instead of Wood 13 million speaks volumes to me.

Well, that is Detroit were talking about.

Right. More of the fact Detroit is incompetent.

[BigSlam]

Have heard it on multiple podcasts from Ryen Russillo, Kevin O’Conner and the fact Detroit would rather pay Mason Plumlee 8 million instead of Wood 13 million speaks volumes to me.

Well, that is Detroit were talking about.

Right. More of the fact Detroit is incompetent.

At the very, very best it was conjecture.

[JMAC3]

I could be wrong about Wood, but seems like fans hold him in super high regard. Whereas the league doesn't, so something isn't adding up. I've heard some things via several podcasts that he complains about not getting the ball, doesn't seem engaged in timeouts and just overall is about himself over the team.

I am not going to pretend I know everything about him and watch his games on league pass because I don't. However, Bill Simmons, Kevin OConner and Ryen Russillo are huge league pass guys and have sources in scouting departments all over the league so I will trust their opinions over someone who is just boxscore watching and looking at end of the season stats.

So many on this board are low on PJ for his attitude, but the casual outside fan would not know that exists. Doesn't it make sense their are many many situations around the league on other teams that are the same and probably much worse.

[BleedGreen1989]

I could be wrong about Wood, but seems like fans hold him in super high regard. Whereas the league doesn't, so something isn't adding up. I've heard some things via several podcasts that he complains about not getting the ball, doesn't seem engaged in timeouts and just overall is about himself over the team.

I am not going to pretend I know everything about him and watch his games on league pass because I don't. However, Bill Simmons, Kevin OConner and Ryen Russillo are huge league pass guys and have sources in scouting departments all over the league so I will trust their opinions over someone who is just boxscore watching and looking at end of the season stats.

So many on this board are low on PJ for his attitude, but the casual outside fan would not know that exists. Doesn't it make sense their are many many situations around the league on other teams that are the same and probably much worse.

I'm not even necessarily saying you're wrong. Just trying to find the root of the chatter.

I didn't read/hear anything about him this season to suggest guy's wouldn't like playing with him.

I just think he'd be phenomenal with LaMelo. An athletic big who is a terror at the rim and also a plus shooter sounds like an ideal fit.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

would ya'll be interested in moving up to 5 for Barnes or Kuminga?

[Roll Tide 09]

If Portland ends up rebuilding, we might be able to swing 3-4 future 1st round picks, Monk, Graham, and Washington for Lillard and Kanter.


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[LofJ]

If Portland ends up rebuilding, we might be able to swing 3-4 future 1st round picks, Monk, Graham, and Washington for Lillard and Kanter.


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Nurkic is the guy we can realistically get if Portland ends up rebuilding. Just absorb him into our cap space and send them Richards and a lottery protected 2022 1st.

[luciano-davidwesley]

would ya'll be interested in moving up to 5 for Barnes or Kuminga?

I think id rather stay at 11 and get Jalen Johnson or Moses Moody and not give up a big asset(s) to get to 5. If Moody and Johnson are taken I probably consider trading with one of those teams which will be in the 7-10 range first.

I'm not sure I see Barnes and Kuminga as that much better or better at all than Moody and Jalen Johnson. I might be in the minority here though.

[BigSlam]

would ya'll be interested in moving up to 5 for Barnes or Kuminga?

I think id rather stay at 11 and get Jalen Johnson or Moses Moody and not give up a big asset(s) to get to 5. If Moody and Johnson are taken I probably consider trading with one of those teams which will be in the 7-10 range first.

I'm not sure I see Barnes and Kuminga as that much better or better at all than Moody and Jalen Johnson. I might be in the minority here though.

If Mobley somehow falls to #5 then it might be interesting (assuming Green goes top #2), but other than that I agree with LD - I wouldn't want to burn assets to move up to a spot that doesn't really interest me.

[luciano-davidwesley]

would ya'll be interested in moving up to 5 for Barnes or Kuminga?

I think id rather stay at 11 and get Jalen Johnson or Moses Moody and not give up a big asset(s) to get to 5. If Moody and Johnson are taken I probably consider trading with one of those teams which will be in the 7-10 range first.

I'm not sure I see Barnes and Kuminga as that much better or better at all than Moody and Jalen Johnson. I might be in the minority here though.

If Mobley somehow falls to #5 then it might be interesting (assuming Green goes top #2), but other than that I agree with LD - I wouldn't want to burn assets to move up to a spot that doesn't really interest me.

Yes if a Cade, Mobley or Green drop things obviously change but;
1. I don't see it happening and
2. There will be competition that we can't beat without giving up LaMelo and that isn't happening either

[Bassman]

LaMelo is untouchable. He’s that good. How long has it been since we had someone like that? Maybe early Grandmama.

[bravor]

If Portland ends up rebuilding, we might be able to swing 3-4 future 1st round picks, Monk, Graham, and Washington for Lillard and Kanter.


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Nurkic is the guy we can realistically get if Portland ends up rebuilding. Just absorb him into our cap space and send them Richards and a lottery protected 2022 1st.

He has one year left, and he took a discount to remain with the blazers. I dont think he will be that cheap, by far, for his next contract.
And i find his profile fit questionable.
M. Turner is a better fit, but the same problem will happen in two years. Knowing in one year, Klutch sport will negotiate an extension with the Hornets for Miles (you can expect a team friendly extension.. or not, yeah..)

Mobley would have been a homerun but.. well..

The best 'idea' so far is still the adams/Bledsoe/#10 for Rozier and filler providing it's on the table. 10 and 11 is something you can play with.
Unless Kupchak manages to trade Rozier for a middle 1st this year

[Liver_Pooty]

Assuming the Cavs draft Mobley wouldn't they be hesitant to give Allen an extension? Would you guys give them the 11th pick for Allen in a sign and trade then use our cap space to shore up depth?

[luciano-davidwesley]

Cleveland might let Allen walk if they draft Mobley. Highly unlikely but possible if he's offered silly money.

[JDuaneWayne]

Assuming the Cavs draft Mobley wouldn't they be hesitant to give Allen an extension? Would you guys give them the 11th pick for Allen in a sign and trade then use our cap space to shore up depth?

Yes, but I’ve read they picture them playing together