Fake Trade Thread #5

[Rich4114]

Thoughts on Hayward/Rozier for Kuminga/Klay?

Warriors been discussing Hayward on their board.

I really want nothing to do with Wiggins. He is fools gold and of the school of effort of Nic Batum. He put effort in when his team was good and he was great. But the majority of his career playing on teams not in the championship discussion, he coasts. Simply look at this season and every other season outside of like 2.

[JDR720]

I proposed a Wiggins trade a couple weeks back.

At this point, I wouldn't do it though. The odds he takes the Batum path here are way too high.

I'd be calling the Warriors about their interest in Miles/Rozier/Gordon though. Just as Cp3 for filler and Kuminga/Moody as the asset.

[Rich4114]

I proposed a Wiggins trade a couple weeks back.

At this point, I wouldn't do it though. The odds he takes the Batum path here are way too high.

I'd be calling the Warriors about their interest in Miles/Rozier/Gordon though. Just as Cp3 for filler and Kuminga/Moody as the asset.

If we could have CP3 for at least next season in a trade where we give up Terry or Hayward, that has value to me. Kuminga / Moody would be great to get as well. I'd honestly even be willing to look at a Draymond trade especially if we could get GSW to attach assets. He's a crazy person, but that's exactly what this team needs (on the court). I want someone in that locker room who is going to call out stupid **** and hold people accountable for not performing.

[JDR720]

I'd be shocked in they trade Draymond, and he'd have a cow if he got sent here too so I wouldn't touch him.

CP3 is a buyout candidate, he isn't retiring here just yet.

The idea is to swap one of the 3 I listed for Kuminga, as he is their only good prospect. Moody is fine, but he's more of a Thor/Ish/Martin if he doesn't get healthy replacement.

[JDR720]

I do sort of like the idea of trading Miles to Detroit too.

Maybe Miles for Stewart and Ivy.

Although I'm not sure why they'd do that when they can sign him in the offseason anyway.

[KingCat]

I do sort of like the idea of trading Miles to Detroit too.

Maybe Miles for Stewart and Ivy.

Although I'm not sure why they'd do that when they can sign him in the offseason anyway.

Yeah if Miles is traded anywhere, it would be a high level playoff team that thinks they are one good player away from making a lot of noise come April and dont mind the risk of losing him in a couple of months.

I'd be trying to market Miles to the Kings, Pacers, Lakers, Clippers etc.

Miles is an extremely unique situation right now being a borderline allstar player on a contract that is super easy to absorb. I really hope we take advantage of that instead of signing him to a max that imo he isn't good enough for.

[JustBuzzin]

I was for keeping Miles, but has anyone noticed he has loss some explosive burst?

This dude was good for a couple highlight dunks a week. He's not attacking the rim like he use to. Maybe we should listen to offers for him as well.

[fatlever]

Miles' game won't age well if he's not attacking rim.
But yeah, he's looked sluggish all year


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[JDR720]

Read on Twitter

We should try to get invovled in the Pacers/Toronto deal with Gordon as a filler.

[JMAC3]

Miles' game won't age well if he's not attacking rim.
But yeah, he's looked sluggish all year

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Yeah his dunk #s are down a bit. 23 dunks in 26 games. 0.88 dunks per game.
If you exclude this year he averaged 1.09 dunks per game
I am sure lack of spacing and no LaMelo has hurt this some.

If you look at how often he is getting to the rim.
28.4% of his shot attempts this year inside 3 feet. vs 35.7% his best year.
That is a larger drop off then I like to see.
I am willing to see how it bakes out over the course of a full season and see if LaMelo effect is a difference maker.

[fatlever]

Miles' game won't age well if he's not attacking rim.
But yeah, he's looked sluggish all year

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Yeah his dunk #s are down a bit. 23 dunks in 26 games. 0.88 dunks per game.
If you exclude this year he averaged 1.09 dunks per game
I am sure lack of spacing and no LaMelo has hurt this some.

If you look at how often he is getting to the rim.
28.4% of his shot attempts this year inside 3 feet. vs 35.7% his best year.
That is a larger drop off then I like to see.
I am willing to see how it bakes out over the course of a full season and see if LaMelo effect is a difference maker.

I will certainly concede that this system and cast make it really hard to evaluate players. It's a mess all around. No spacing on offense. No stops on Def. Less transition? But the eye test feels like he's less explosive.

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[Rich4114]

Miles' game won't age well if he's not attacking rim.
But yeah, he's looked sluggish all year

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Yeah his dunk #s are down a bit. 23 dunks in 26 games. 0.88 dunks per game.
If you exclude this year he averaged 1.09 dunks per game
I am sure lack of spacing and no LaMelo has hurt this some.

If you look at how often he is getting to the rim.
28.4% of his shot attempts this year inside 3 feet. vs 35.7% his best year.
That is a larger drop off then I like to see.
I am willing to see how it bakes out over the course of a full season and see if LaMelo effect is a difference maker.

I will certainly concede that this system and cast make it really hard to evaluate players. It's a mess all around. No spacing on offense. No stops on Def. Less transition? But the eye test feels like he's less explosive.

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Clifford's offense and Nick Richards clogging the paint has really neutered all of our offensive players stats except ISO Terry

[Snidely FC]

From the MIami Heat thread:

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Terry wants Miami. There you have it, a player at your biggest position of need who is great at another need (3 level scoring at 24 PPG) and playmaking. Drop every other PG idea and focus on getting this one done unless Murray flat out says he wants Miami, which isn’t going to happen.

I agree. It’s feasible for us to get this done. Wants Miami, no Klutch ties, and Mitch Kupchak knows Riley very well. Lets make something happen here cause Scary Terry would be a massive improvement in the backcourt.

[KingCat]

Don't think Terry to Miami gets done. Riley is a notoriously stubborn negotiator and will probably only offer Lowry's corpse, a random heat gleaguer and a 2038 2nd round pick for Terry.

[yosemiteben]

Pretty nuts that Siakam on an expiring netted 3 1sts and a good player.

[JDR720]

Don't think Terry to Miami gets done. Riley is a notoriously stubborn negotiator and will probably only offer Lowry's corpse, a random heat gleaguer and a 2038 2nd round pick for Terry.

Yeah, they wouldn't pony up for Lillard. They aren't giving us much for Terry.

I'd want at least 2 1sts + Lowry (filler) and Jovic.

Terry + Bouknight for that package above.

[Rich4114]

Possible Terry to Miami deals:

Terry and Bouk for Herro

Terry for Duncan, Jovic and Bryant

Terry and Bouk for Lowry and future 1st

What Heat fans expect:

Terry for a second

[JMAC3]

Heat can't trade a first until 2027 or 2029. Plus they are heat picks so they don't have as much value as some other teams firsts.

I would consider Terry/Bouk for Lowry, Jovic and 2027 first. He is probably worth more and maybe we can find a better deal but that is probably realistically the type of deal we could do.

Herro has been a 90% in EPM this year, they aren't trading him for Terry. Just like they aren't trading Jacquez for anything less than a true star.

[Goodecharlotte]

Nice to see Mitch and the Hornets being pro active again in free agency. Come on Mitch wakey wakey

[Rich4114]

Heat can't trade a first until 2027 or 2029. Plus they are heat picks so they don't have as much value as some other teams firsts.

I would consider Terry/Bouk for Lowry, Jovic and 2027 first. He is probably worth more and maybe we can find a better deal but that is probably realistically the type of deal we could do.

Herro has been a 90% in EPM this year, they aren't trading him for Terry. Just like they aren't trading Jacquez for anything less than a true star.

But having a 2027 pick or any future first gives us ammo to package that with our own stuff for good players. Like if we wanted Dejonte, we could then package filler + Miami pick + 2 future of our own picks.