Fake Trade Thread #5

KingCat · Post #1581 » by **KingCat** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:17 pm

Would love to get Highsmith back in any deal with the Heat.

Post #1582 » by **JDR720** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:25 pm

What I'm wondering is if Fischer is actually legit or if he's just reposting that other rumor that was supposedly from Woj that didn't actually exist.

KingCat · Post #1583 » by **KingCat** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:32 pm

JDR720 wrote:What I'm wondering is if Fischer is actually legit or if he's just reposting that other rumor that was supposedly from Woj that didn't actually exist.

I wouldn't put any stock in it. The Heat are linked to 5 players every year yet have essential been the same team for the past 5 years.

JMAC3 · Post #1584 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:07 pm

I mean do I think the Heat are set in on Rozier and they will get him at all costs? No.

but they are looking to trade Lowry, their only true pg who has 34 starts and playing 28 mpg.
They are using Josh Richardson as a backup PG because they have nobody else.
So yeah I would say they are in the market for a guard.

Whether that is Murray, Terry, Bruce Brown, Dinwidde etc.. idk but I don't think the trade would shock me by any means given the circumstances of both parties.

Post #1585 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:15 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
I would consider Terry/Bouk for Lowry, Jovic and 2027 first. He is probably worth more and maybe we can find a better deal but that is probably realistically the type of deal we could do.

This is the realistic Miami trade IMO. Jovic and/or Highsmith would be great but if they aren't included I'm still very happy to get off Terry's future years to clean the books and to get a future first.

We definitely aren't getting two firsts or Herro for Terry unless we attach additional value ourselves.

Post #1586 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:32 pm

raps and pacers show hornets what it looks like to pick a **** direction. one blows it up to rebuild around a young star. other goes all in to build around young star point guard.

Post #1587 » by **Diop** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:23 am

JMAC3 wrote:
I would consider Terry/Bouk for Lowry, Jovic and 2027 first.

This is where I'm at, Herro, Jacquez and apparently Robinson as well are untouchable. Prospect and a 1st suits me.

looking forward to seeing Rozier in the playoffs with Jimmy.

a lot of dawg for 1 team

Post #1588 » by **Diop** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:24 am

KingCat wrote:
JDR720 wrote:What I'm wondering is if Fischer is actually legit or if he's just reposting that other rumor that was supposedly from Woj that didn't actually exist.

I wouldn't put any stock in it. The Heat are linked to 5 players every year yet have essential been the same team for the past 5 years.

new york a linked to 4 guards including Rozier as well, its that time of year. (and i love it)

good to see the owners have pushed for change

Snidely FC · Post #1589 » by **Snidely FC** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:16 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I would consider Terry/Bouk for Lowry, Jovic and 2027 first.

I would too. Jovic has been starting for MIA the last several weeks and looking like he balances their line-up. A 6’10 20 year old capable of starting for the Heat would probably be a top 5 pick in this years draft.

Post #1590 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:52 pm

fatlever wrote:raps and pacers show hornets what it looks like to pick a **** direction. one blows it up to rebuild around a young star. other goes all in to build around young star point guard.

TOR rode that fence for way too long, let FVV walk for nothing when he had real trade value. We haven't done something that bad.

JMAC3 · Post #1591 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:24 pm

Snidely FC wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:I would consider Terry/Bouk for Lowry, Jovic and 2027 first.

I would too. Jovic has been starting for MIA the last several weeks and looking like he balances their line-up. A 6’10 20 year old capable of starting for the Heat would probably be a top 5 pick in this years draft.

Jovic is probably the same level of prospect NSj is right now, former late first who is flashing some but not really there yet. He is the type of guy that if it works out then 3 years down the road we win the trade.

I think Nets, Pelicans, Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Heat have all been linked to Dejounte Murray. So once he is traded to one, the other 5 or so will be looking at Plan B and that is when Rozier rumors might heat up.

Post #1592 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:45 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:raps and pacers show hornets what it looks like to pick a **** direction. one blows it up to rebuild around a young star. other goes all in to build around young star point guard.

TOR rode that fence for way too long, let FVV walk for nothing when he had real trade value. We haven't done something that bad.

Maybe so, but they have definitively picked a Direction now. They are no longer on the fence.

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Post #1593 » by **JDR720** » Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:28 pm

We could very well do that next offseason if Miles leaves for nothing and we let Gordon go without trading him.

Post #1594 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:21 am

JDR720 wrote:We could very well do that next offseason if Miles leaves for nothing and we let Gordon go without trading him.

Neither of those guys are like FVV, totally different situations

JMAC3 · Post #1595 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:15 pm

Assuming Miles isn't in further legal trouble by FA time then I would resign him. We aren't positioned to sign anyone better and it is not like he has been bad this year.

Rich4114 · Post #1596 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:24 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Assuming Miles isn't in further legal trouble by FA time then I would resign him. We aren't positioned to sign anyone better and it is not like he has been bad this year.

Agreed, but what will the price tag be? Max?

JMAC3 · Post #1597 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:51 pm

Rich4114 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Assuming Miles isn't in further legal trouble by FA time then I would resign him. We aren't positioned to sign anyone better and it is not like he has been bad this year.

Agreed, but what will the price tag be? Max?

Nah, I think something like 4/100 would be close.
Especially given his uncertaintity. Hornets have more information on him than anyone so it would be even more risky for a third party team to offer him a bag.

KingCat · Post #1598 » by **KingCat** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:19 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Assuming Miles isn't in further legal trouble by FA time then I would resign him. We aren't positioned to sign anyone better and it is not like he has been bad this year.

Agreed, but what will the price tag be? Max?

Nah, I think something like 4/100 would be close.
Especially given his uncertaintity. Hornets have more information on him than anyone so it would be even more risky for a third party team to offer him a bag.

Feels like it's guarantee Detriot offers him the max bag. I wouldn't match considering we are still so far out from actually winning+there are a couple wing prospects in 2024 that could easily be as good as Miles.

Originally I would have kept Miles on high money to keep Lamelo happy, but at this point I wouldn't care about appeasing Lamelo till he plays back to back 65+ seasons.

Rich4114 · Post #1599 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:59 pm

KingCat wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:
Agreed, but what will the price tag be? Max?

Nah, I think something like 4/100 would be close.
Especially given his uncertaintity. Hornets have more information on him than anyone so it would be even more risky for a third party team to offer him a bag.

Feels like it's guarantee Detriot offers him the max bag. I wouldn't match considering we are still so far out from actually winning+there are a couple wing prospects in 2024 that could easily be as good as Miles.

Originally I would have kept Miles on high money to keep Lamelo happy, but at this point I wouldn't care about appeasing Lamelo till he plays back to back 65+ seasons.

Not resigning Miles is just as risky as resigning him if not more. We're likely losing Hayward so who will give us 20ppg in the front court? PJ Washington? JT Thor? A rookie who will need 3-4 seasons to develop? I say resign him and hopefully it's something less than the max so we have an asset that remains valuable whether on the court for us or via a trade down the road. We can't just be losing the few good players we do have for nothing when we all know we aren't signing someone of that caliber in free agency.

Post #1600 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:04 pm

There are about 50 or so players averaging 20+ this season. I'm not worried about losing his scoring, but to lose him for nothing after dealing with all his garbage these past couple years.

But signing him to a max is a bad idea too. NBA teams need to get away from the idea that just because a player is fringe all-star level, then they automatically get a max. He hasn't done anything to deserve that contract.

So either trade him now, or try to keep him for less than a max.