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Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67)

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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#161 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:14 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Of course Charlotte won't offer that but his agent will demand it and Charlotte overpaid for Al Jefferson when Jefferson was the best of a weak class (aside from Howard).

Lance is looking at 4 years 40 million minimum.

I'll bet anyone.


I doubt he'll receive it. Of course he's going to look for that. Even Gordon Hayward laughably sought after a max-contract this past offseason, but that don't mean that a businessman with any sense in mind would offer it to him
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#162 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:17 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Of course Charlotte won't offer that but his agent will demand it and Charlotte overpaid for Al Jefferson when Jefferson was the best of a weak class (aside from Howard).

Lance is looking at 4 years 40 million minimum.

I'll bet anyone.


I doubt he'll receive it. Of course he's going to look for that. Even Gordon Hayward laughably sought after a max-contract this past offseason, but that don't mean that a businessman with any sense in mind would offer it to him


I'll bet you Lance earns 4 years 40 minimum. If I win, you put the Hornets logo on your favorite basketball team for your profile. If you win, I'll change my sig to Allen Iverson.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#163 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:22 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Lol. We will just disagree on that one. Stephenson is a much better defender and rebounder, and is just as good at dishing out assist. Also shot a good clip better from deep and overall this season.

Yeah, Ill take Lance.


I'll take Lance for this team because of MKG, but if I had Paul George at SF then I'd take Tyreke. I'm just making a point that anything over $8 million for Stephenson will likely come back to haunt whatever team that give him that contract, and likewise Evans never should have received over $10 million. In my honest opinion, Evans' contract isn't that bad, but it only make matters worst when he's getting paid that much and is resorted to a 6th man role because they already have Jrue Holiday & Eric Gordon under contract
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#164 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:23 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Of course Charlotte won't offer that but his agent will demand it and Charlotte overpaid for Al Jefferson when Jefferson was the best of a weak class (aside from Howard).

Lance is looking at 4 years 40 million minimum.

I'll bet anyone.


I doubt he'll receive it. Of course he's going to look for that. Even Gordon Hayward laughably sought after a max-contract this past offseason, but that don't mean that a businessman with any sense in mind would offer it to him


I'll bet you Lance earns 4 years 40 minimum. If I win, you put the Hornets logo on your favorite basketball team for your profile. If you win, I'll change my sig to Allen Iverson.


I'll take that bet, but if you lose you'll have to change your sig to MCW instead of A.I.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#165 » by ARHornet » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:25 pm

Lance is a significantly better player than Tyreke Evans.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#166 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:29 pm

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I doubt he'll receive it. Of course he's going to look for that. Even Gordon Hayward laughably sought after a max-contract this past offseason, but that don't mean that a businessman with any sense in mind would offer it to him


I'll bet you Lance earns 4 years 40 minimum. If I win, you put the Hornets logo on your favorite basketball team for your profile. If you win, I'll change my sig to Allen Iverson.


I'll take that bet, but if you lose you'll have to change your sig to MCW instead of A.I.


Why would you want to embarrass and defame your team like that? I know, because you're a HORNETS fan!!!
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#167 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:31 pm

ARHornet wrote:Lance is a significantly better player than Tyreke Evans.


Even if they're merely comparable, his agent will argue he's on the ups and it's true.

I think 11 per and 44 total gets Lance. At that price I'm not sure Charlotte is interested but they did overpay for Al Jefferson.

And Al Jefferson did say after his post-season interview with the front office that they're on the same page in being very serious about improving.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#168 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:42 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
I'll bet you Lance earns 4 years 40 minimum. If I win, you put the Hornets logo on your favorite basketball team for your profile. If you win, I'll change my sig to Allen Iverson.


I'll take that bet, but if you lose you'll have to change your sig to MCW instead of A.I.


Why would you want to embarrass and defame your team like that? I know, because you're a HORNETS fan!!!


Because they're embarrassing themselves as long as MCW is our point guard of the future. I hope Hinkie can convince somebody to take him in the lottery so we can land Parker, LaVine, and Young!
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#169 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:43 pm

ARHornet wrote:Lance is a significantly better player than Tyreke Evans.


Agreed. I don't think its really that close either.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#170 » by ARHornet » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:45 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
ARHornet wrote:Lance is a significantly better player than Tyreke Evans.


Even if they're merely comparable, his agent will argue he's on the ups and it's true.

I think 11 per and 44 total gets Lance. At that price I'm not sure Charlotte is interested but they did overpay for Al Jefferson.

And Al Jefferson did say after his post-season interview with the front office that they're on the same page in being very serious about improving.

Yeah I'm sure. Their contracts will likely be similar. Tyreke and his agent are getting away with robbery on that deal.

I wasn't really commenting on the contracts, just that Stephenson is quite a bit better than Tyreke.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#171 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:46 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
ARHornet wrote:Lance is a significantly better player than Tyreke Evans.


Even if they're merely comparable, his agent will argue he's on the ups and it's true.

I think 11 per and 44 total gets Lance. At that price I'm not sure Charlotte is interested but they did overpay for Al Jefferson.

And Al Jefferson did say after his post-season interview with the front office that they're on the same page in being very serious about improving.


Y'all are blinded by the hype & perception of Stephenson being on a winning team. They were winning before he came into the fold, and they'll be winning afterwards he leave as long as they keep Vogel as the head coach

Also, Charlotte didn't overpay for Al Jefferson, not even from the onset. Jefferson has had similar production all of his career with a bad supporting cast that was beyond his control as a player, and he just happened to have his wrongful detractors that had to eat crow when it was all said and done
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#172 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 8:47 pm

On what grounds is Lance Stephenson 'significantly better' than Tyreke Evans? I would like to know :lol:
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#173 » by ARHornet » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:04 pm

Stephenson is the better rebounder, shooter, scorer, and defender. The only place Evans has the edge is as a ball handler/passer, but even there Stephenson is right behind him.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#174 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:06 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:On what grounds is Lance Stephenson 'significantly better' than Tyreke Evans? I would like to know :lol:


Much better defense, rebounding, better overall shooter, and can pass the ball almost as well as Evans.

Anyways, back on topic. Yeah, I agree with Ichiro that someone will end up giving Stephenson 10 mill a year. Do I think hes worth it? Probably not.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#175 » by ARHornet » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:10 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Anyways, back on topic. Yeah, I agree with Ichiro that someone will end up giving Stephenson 10 mill a year. Do I think hes worth it? Probably not.

Agreed with this.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#176 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:10 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:On what grounds is Lance Stephenson 'significantly better' than Tyreke Evans? I would like to know :lol:


Much better defense, rebounding, better overall shooter, and can pass the ball almost as well as Evans.

Anyways, back on topic. Yeah, I agree with Ichiro that someone will end up giving Stephenson 10 mill a year. Do I think hes worth it? Probably not.


Defense, yes, because it was instilled in him early in his career if he wanted to see the floor. Shooting, yes, but he can't score better than Evans. Passing, Evans by a margin because he's better at penetrating a defense as a better ball handler. Rebounding, they are pretty much equal

On topic, I'll sig bet you too that he doesn't receive $10 million
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#177 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:13 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:On what grounds is Lance Stephenson 'significantly better' than Tyreke Evans? I would like to know :lol:


Much better defense, rebounding, better overall shooter, and can pass the ball almost as well as Evans.

Anyways, back on topic. Yeah, I agree with Ichiro that someone will end up giving Stephenson 10 mill a year. Do I think hes worth it? Probably not.


Defense, yes, because it was instilled in him early in his career if he wanted to see the floor. Shooting, yes, but he can't score better than Evans. Passing, Evans by a margin because he's better at penetrating a defense as a better ball handler. Rebounding, they are pretty much equal

On topic, I'll sig bet you too that he doesn't receive $10 million


Im guessing he gets around 9 a year, but Ill go ahead and take you up on that bet :D
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#178 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:16 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Im guessing he gets around 9 a year, but Ill go ahead and take you up on that bet :D


OK. So anything under $9 million annually constitutes as $8 million in my eyes. Like, if he get $8.5 million annually for 4 years ($34 million/4 years), that's still $8 million
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#179 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:18 pm

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Im guessing he gets around 9 a year, but Ill go ahead and take you up on that bet :D


OK. So anything under $9 million annually constitutes as $8 million in my eyes. Like, if he get $8.5 million annually for 4 years ($34 million/4 years), that's still $8 million

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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#180 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 5, 2014 9:19 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Im guessing he gets around 9 a year, but Ill go ahead and take you up on that bet :D


OK. So anything under $9 million annually constitutes as $8 million in my eyes. Like, if he get $8.5 million annually for 4 years ($34 million/4 years), that's still $8 million

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