Greensboro Swarm: The G-League Thread

Post #161 » by **fatlever** » Thu Jun 9, 2016 7:15 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/benpowelltv/status/740981739737260032[/tweet]

Eoghan · Post #162 » by **Eoghan** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:06 am

JDR720 wrote:i feel like thats a lot for a d-league game.

They're just trying to price my Cho heckling out of earshot.

I won't be denied.

Post #163 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 10:08 pm

Bumping this bad boy...we should be finding out about the Swarm coach relatively soon.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bhallwfmy/status/751511085899980800[/tweet]

Snidely FC · Post #164 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jul 9, 2016 1:25 am

Wasn't sure how it goes if we want someone like Brandon Paul or MIke Tobey on the Swarm. Looks like since we didn't draft them CHA needs to bring them to training camp and then cut them . . .

20. Where do NBA Development League players come from?

There are eight different paths a player can take to the NBA D-League:

NBA teams can assign players to their NBA D-League affiliate and recall them at any time.
NBA teams can draft players and sign them to NBA D-League contracts, thus retaining their rights through the “Draft Rights Player” rule.
NBA teams can designate up to four players that they cut during training camp as “affiliate players,” meaning those players will join that team’s NBA D-League affiliate (should the players choose to sign into the NBA D-League). These players are signed under contract with the league rather than the team, however, meaning they are technically free agents who can be called up to any of the 30 NBA teams.
NBA D-League teams hold local tryouts each offseason and can invite up to five players from these tryouts to their training camps.
The NBA D-League holds a draft every year consisting of nearly 200 players who have signed contracts with the league. In 2014, the draft consisted of eight rounds.
Players who return to the NBA D-League are, by rule, re-acquired by the teams that they played for within the last two seasons (Returning Players).
Once the NBA D-League season begins, players who sign NBA D-League contracts are placed into a rotating waiver pool so that teams can claim them.
If a player from high school, college or overseas enters the NBA D-League without ever having declared for the NBA Draft, he will also join the waiver pool. That player remains NBA Draft-eligible but is not eligible to be called up to the NBA.
When a new franchise joins the league, an expansion draft is held in which the new team selects 16 players from a pool of unprotected players among the league’s other teams. The expansion team will then hold that player’s NBA D-League rights for two seasons. Each returning team can protect up to 12 of its players from being selected.

NBA D-League players sign standard one-year contracts with the league, not individual teams, according to three different salary scales. (This excludes players on assignment from the NBA, who remain under NBA contract.)

Post #165 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:30 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/greensboroswarm/status/753656420499881984[/tweet]

Swarm website is up - http://www.gsoswarm.com

Post #166 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:42 pm

@WojVerticalNBA
Sources: Denver assistant Noel Gillespie is finalizing deal to become head coach of Charlotte's new D-League affiliate in Greensboro.

Anyone know who this is?

Hitman Hart · Post #167 » by **Hitman Hart** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:55 pm

rallydurham wrote:$65 lol, I would legitimately think that was family of 4 with drinks, popcorn, autographed ball prices.

But i like the cheerleader option as well

Over/under on duke, unc, ncsu alums for first year? I'll set it at 3.5 maybe even sneak a high point androws or page grad on there and do it right

Could potentially see Devin Thomas and/or Codi Miller-McIntyre from Wake.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #168 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:38 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DLeagueDigest/status/755251005160235009[/tweet]

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BlackOutBuzz · Post #169 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:42 pm

Most interesting point from that link: "In last year’s expansion draft, out of the 16 players selected by the Raptors 905, only one suited up for them (Scott Suggs)."

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Post #170 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:15 pm

How is that possible? They found 15 other guys that weren't playing at all, either in the NBDL or abroad?

BlackOutBuzz · Post #171 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:59 pm

Apparently teams can hold the rights to players for up to two years, which makes them eligible for the pool even if they're inactive. Maybe they wanted to fill the roster with younger, home-grown talent so they took players that were unlikely to play for them?

Time to research some D-League transaction rules.

EDIT: So, looking at their transaction log, after "drafting" 16 guys in August only 4 of them actually showed up to camp. The other 12 were placed on a "did not attend" list, which seems to be similar to the NFL's reserve/did not report list.

One of those guys was CJ Leslie, whom I'm almost certain we'll "draft" if available.

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Post #172 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:53 pm

Hilarious

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BringBackTheBuz/status/755816073379864576[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/greensboroswarm/status/755817389464260608[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BringBackTheBuz/status/755818930950766592[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/nickcebs/status/755819301177810944[/tweet]

Post #173 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:55 pm

Yeah...probably not the right move to tag them on that.

They do a good job of making it tough to like them. Would suggest not antagonizing the social media manager of the team's affiliate.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #174 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:12 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Yeah...probably not the right move to tag them on that.

They do a good job of making it tough to like them. Would suggest not antagonizing the social media manager of the team's affiliate.

And the damn president runs the account

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BlackOutBuzz · Post #175 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:35 pm

Interesting how simplified the NBADL cap system is. Before this year, there were only 3 different contract structures available to give players. Last year those amounts were $25,500 (Class A), $19,000 (Class B), $13,000 (Class C), and the total cap was $173,000 for ten players*.

*Rosters can be as big as twelve players, but those final two spots are reserved for NBA assignments (Harrison, Wood), and don't count toward that cap.

This year the cap got even simpler, with the Class C contract being eliminated and Classes A and B getting a $500 bump. As a result the cap will also jump to $209,000.

This would seem to imply that teams are allowed to sign two A players, and then have to fill out the roster with 8 B players. That total would bring a team to $208,000.

I've read that there is a luxury tax system in place - though I can't find much info on it - so maybe you can add an extra A player and have team salary of $214,500 if you're willing to pay the tax.

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Post #176 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:46 pm

They better revisit the NBDL salary structures in the next CBA. No reason bench NBA players should be getting $10M+ per year and the best NBDL guys only can possibly get 0.2% of that. Would love for the NBDL to become a competitive league that is viewed as a superior prep route as opposed to college.

Post #177 » by **JDR720** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:56 pm

yosemiteben wrote:They better revisit the NBDL salary structures in the next CBA. No reason bench NBA players should be getting $10M+ per year and the best NBDL guys only can possibly get 0.2% of that. Would love for the NBDL to become a competitive league that is viewed as a superior prep route as opposed to college.

it should be higher, but salary in sports is based on revenue. if the NBADL dosn't make any money then player salaries aren't going to be high.

Post #178 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:22 pm

JDR720 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:They better revisit the NBDL salary structures in the next CBA. No reason bench NBA players should be getting $10M+ per year and the best NBDL guys only can possibly get 0.2% of that. Would love for the NBDL to become a competitive league that is viewed as a superior prep route as opposed to college.

it should be higher, but salary in sports is based on revenue. if the NBADL dosn't make any money then player salaries aren't going to be high.

The value of the NBDL should be in providing well trained, well coached, and talented players that are readily available to NBA teams. The aggregate salaries of all NBDL players on a team should be worth much more than $200K, even if they generate no revenue at all.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #179 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:22 pm

yosemiteben wrote:They better revisit the NBDL salary structures in the next CBA. No reason bench NBA players should be getting $10M+ per year and the best NBDL guys only can possibly get 0.2% of that. Would love for the NBDL to become a competitive league that is viewed as a superior prep route as opposed to college.

Yeah, Harrison and Wood may spend the entire season in the D-League, and each will make more than 4x their teammates COMBINED. And that's on minimum NBA deals.

I'm really excited by the prospect of the D-League growing to the point that it draws top prospects from the NCAA, but it'll never happen under this salary structure.

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Post #180 » by **JDR720** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:31 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:They better revisit the NBDL salary structures in the next CBA. No reason bench NBA players should be getting $10M+ per year and the best NBDL guys only can possibly get 0.2% of that. Would love for the NBDL to become a competitive league that is viewed as a superior prep route as opposed to college.

it should be higher, but salary in sports is based on revenue. if the NBADL dosn't make any money then player salaries aren't going to be high.

The value of the NBDL should be in providing well trained, well coached, and talented players that are readily available to NBA teams. The aggregate salaries of all NBDL players on a team should be worth much more than $200K, even if they generate no revenue at all.

how much are you talking about?

100k salaries? 1 million salaries? 50k salaries?