Not In The Face - The Jeremy Lin Thread 3

bigbob · Post #161 » by **bigbob** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 1:14 am

aaannd, were back to regular lin, 2 points on 0-2 shooting in 10 mins

ChokeFasncists · Post #162 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 1:20 am

Expectation too high leads to big disappointment.

It's best not to be too negative in this kind of situation.

Vae Victus · Post #163 » by **Vae Victus** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 1:23 am

Considering Lin isnt treated as a primary playmaker for most of his time on court also affects his assist/TO numbers. If Lin was defacto PG every minute he's on the floor (both when kemba sits or both play together) i assure you his ratios and assist counting stats will look ALOT better. But he's not, therefore he has what has, its not fair to point at his stats this season to make any sort of judgement on his true effectiveness in ball protection other than, its Assist/TO over his career isnt THAT bad.

All i can say is i hope some team next year takes the leap and give Lin what he wants and i think deservers. A Fair shot at being a starting PG.

ChokeFasncists · Post #164 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 1:54 am

Actually it'd be quite interesting what Stocks' gonna average in this lineup:

Stocks/Lamb/PJ/Frank/Hawes

Coach: Cliff

2k15 · Post #165 » by **2k15** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 2:28 am

i think this is gonna be lin's normal minute allocation going forward - quite a step down from the 30 min a game he was averaging.

Vae Victus · Post #166 » by **Vae Victus** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 2:32 am

Easy fix, cut PJ out of the rotation. Give his mins to Lin and Lamb. MKG and Batum should have the SF mins all locked down. Lamb/Baum/Lin shares time at SG (in that order) and Lin gets Kemba's rest mins (should be 16 but knowing cliff itlll be like 8-10).

bigbob · Post #167 » by **bigbob** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 3:02 am

the classic saying has proven itself once again: no lin no win! It was pretty funny at the end, cliff felt confident in himself to keep lin out of the game for as long as possible. He even managed to pull it off, i thought he could last till the end. Turns out I was wrong though, Cliff finally folded by subbing in lin and throwing up a prayer in the LAST 27 seconds.

Vae Victus · Post #168 » by **Vae Victus** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 3:26 am

Personally i wished the team had told Kemba to sit another game out to let the knee get closer to 100% But knowing how players cant let their starting spots get threatened (imagine if Lin strung together 2-3 great games), Kemba felt he had to rush back to not let Lin get his chance to shine.

Ironically today was the best situation for Lin to fall on his face, he's a traditionally HORRIBLE b2b player. Lin looked like crap as expected but has an "excuse" of choppy PT and Kemba, well he went Kemba and i guess this team's fanbase is all used to it by now. Ok he did just get his knee drained and all that, but man him looking off hot players is just disgusting.

bigbob · Post #169 » by **bigbob** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 3:29 am

Vae Victus wrote:Personally i wished the team had told Kemba to sit another game out to let the knee get closer to 100% But knowing how players cant let their starting spots get threatened (imagine if Lin strung together 2-3 great games), Kemba felt he had to rush back to not let Lin get his chance to shine.

Ironically today was the best situation for Lin to fall on his face, he's a traditionally HORRIBLE b2b player. Lin looked like crap as expected but has an "excuse" of choppy PT and Kemba, well he went Kemba and i guess this team's fanbase is all used to it by now. Ok he did just get his knee drained and all that, but man him looking off hot players is just disgusting.

i like ur tactics...coming to the lin thread to bash kemba

ChokeFasncists · Post #170 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 3:43 am

Vae Victus wrote:Personally i wished the team had told Kemba to sit another game out to let the knee get closer to 100% But knowing how players cant let their starting spots get threatened (imagine if Lin strung together 2-3 great games), Kemba felt he had to rush back to not let Lin get his chance to shine.

Ironically today was the best situation for Lin to fall on his face, he's a traditionally HORRIBLE b2b player. Lin looked like crap as expected but has an "excuse" of choppy PT and Kemba, well he went Kemba and i guess this team's fanbase is all used to it by now. Ok he did just get his knee drained and all that, but man him looking off hot players is just disgusting.

What? Tonight was not the second night of a B2B. You partied too hard 2 nights ago?

What's interesting tho, is that Lin's stat this year shows he plays well on the 2nd night of B2B but not with one day rest. Maybe the shooting form change has worked?

TinmanZBoy · Post #171 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 3:57 am

just part away with his shooting coach, tell the guy thanks, no, thanks...
that's all I want to say

ChokeFasncists · Post #172 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 4:06 am

Well, his shot is still bad, but if it becomes good, then it'd be really a good thing cuz his stamina has improved.

13th Man · Post #173 » by **13th Man** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 4:07 am

I didn't think Lin was terrible as he only played 16 mins, he was simply a non-factor due to the 2nd unit sucking and Whiteside blocking a couple of his shots.

On a positive note, Lin was subbed in for Kemba at the 4 minute mark to play pg. It didn't work out well but I thought it was a good sign. Clifford likes to play the hot hand and since Lin couldn't really get anything going with the 2nd unit, he relied on the starters for most of the game. Just one of those games, the other guys were more involved but we came up short. And ya, Lin still needs to improve his shooting, man if he can get that going...

Post #174 » by **yosemiteben** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 4:12 am

Vae Victus wrote:All i can say is i hope some team next year takes the leap and give Lin what he wants and i think deservers. A Fair shot at being a starting PG.

He might should start then by not signing with a team that just extended their starting PG who also is a major face of the franchise. Lin said himself when he signed that we wasn't going to replace Kemba as a starter, that was never the plan and it's disingenuous to act like that was Lin's intent in signing.

Elden Payton · Post #175 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 4:14 am

Lin is what Lin is, as I've said many times.

He's not a starter in this league unless he's playing next to a Harden or Kobe in the backcourt... but he is one of the best backup point guards in the league.

Lin needs consistent minutes and a clearly defined role in this offense, Cliffy's head scratching use of Lin is not in the best interests of this team.

I really want him to come back next season, he brings an element to our team we haven't had since Sessions.

Mo Williams was good for us and so was Sessions but Lin can bring the best of both of those players to this team.

Elden Payton · Post #176 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 4:15 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Vae Victus wrote:All i can say is i hope some team next year takes the leap and give Lin what he wants and i think deservers. A Fair shot at being a starting PG.

He might should start then by not signing with a team that just extended their starting PG who also is a major face of the franchise. Kemba said himself when he signed that we wasn't going to replace Kemba as a starter, that was never the plan and it's disingenuous to act like that was Lin's intent in signing.

Lin knows his role and credit must go to him for that imo.

Tracymcgoaty · Post #177 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 4:25 am

Expecting lin to play 15 min against the wizards aswell all at shooting guard let lamb handle the pg duties with hawes.

ChokeFasncists · Post #178 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 4:59 am

Sik Infant wrote:He's not a starter in this league unless he's playing next to a Harden or Kobe in the backcourt...

Mind elaborating?

Elden Payton · Post #179 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 5:08 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:He's not a starter in this league unless he's playing next to a Harden or Kobe in the backcourt...

Mind elaborating?

I think Houston and the Lakers mishandled Jeremy.

If I had a SG who is a scorer, handles the ball a lot and can create then Jeremy is good as a starter at PG.

He has size, he can play off the ball, he can/could shoot and he plays hard on both sides of the ball.

I don't want the ball in his hands a lot and I don't want him to be the main scorer on the floor unless it's with the second unit.

With the second unit I'm fine with it, which is why I like him more as a backup.

leeramundo · Post #180 » by **leeramundo** » Sat Feb 6, 2016 5:09 am

13th Man wrote:I didn't think Lin was terrible as he only played 16 mins, he was simply a non-factor due to the 2nd unit sucking and Whiteside blocking a couple of his shots.

On a positive note, Lin was subbed in for Kemba at the 4 minute mark to play pg. It didn't work out well but I thought it was a good sign. Clifford likes to play the hot hand and since Lin couldn't really get anything going with the 2nd unit, he relied on the starters for most of the game. Just one of those games, the other guys were more involved but we came up short. And ya, Lin still needs to improve his shooting, man if he can get that going...

Yep that's really all there is to it tonight. He also needs to realize he ain't getting a layup over Whiteside and go for the floater instead. He had his layup blocked 3 times tonight, gotta be smarter.