Not In The Face - The Jeremy Lin Thread 3 + 1

[bws94]

Yeah, I don't see any Lin haters in this thread. 99% of the people who post in this thread are Lin fans or Hornets fans who are rooting for Lin. The most vocal critics of Lin in this thread are some of his fans, not haters.

And that's the way it should be. Lin is a near vet, a player with some strong talents and some weak points, and talking about his game objectively what is good and what is not so good, is normal for fans of any player. To critique and want him to improve some things isn't to bash him. To question when the stakes get even higher if he can do it, again normal.

Lin has the heart and soul of a winner and he's come up big against big teams. He's come up big in this playoffs. But, as the stakes get higher, can he still deliver? That's what he's showing now. AFAIC, this is the one and only bad game he's had. I almost give him a pass but don't want him to have his negative habits creep in and him revert to that vs. his positive habits leading and producing in this game. This team needs Lin especially with a hobbled Batum that probably won't play tomorrow (shouldn't play, to be honest). So, will he be the Lin of games 3 and 4 or of game 6? I think he got too high and amped and didn't look right in game 6 and he'll be looking to play hard and strong and step up in game 7. Kemba can't do it by himself. Lin is needed to be that other guy and is capable of it. That said, both of them need Marv to get it going.

When a guy does well fan boards praise him and he is the GOAT after a great game and call him a Scrub and doesn't belong in the league after a bad one. Just normal abnormal fan behavior, lol.

[sidestep]

pretty straightforward in terms of the situation last game. miami crowded the paint against lin, forcing him to shoot from distance but his shot was off. not just off but broken, as he was reverting to his old cock-and-launch form instead of the newer, more fluid release.

also, they put the bigger, more experienced Deng on him, making him think twice about midrange shots and taking away easy passing angles. and Lin doesn't even attempt to do post moves, so he got stuck several times.

the vets Deng and Haslem all series did an excellent good job drawing charges on Lin. and they figured out Lin was not getting the benefit of the doubt for the gray-area cases. indeed, I thought the officiating could have gone the other way on some of those, but that's how it's being officiated and Lin failed to adapt to that in the game. going two straight possessions with offensive charges is frustrating to see. the charges really killed momentum by both turning it over AND quickly getting Lin in foul trouble. double whammy, leaving Kemba to carry the load at the end.

the jumper needs to be there next time. it's kinda been the theme of this season. semi-broken jumper.

Lin did say after the game that they failed to carry out the plan, so perhaps he was just concentrating on that instead of being hesitant per se. in other words, it's not necessarily a confidence thing and more like trying to square what he is seeing in the game with cliff's plan. whatever it was, his body language looked to me like he was overthinking it in the first half. second half, just put his head down and beelined to the bucket but that didn't turn out well.

[KungFuJoe]

Yeah he was bad but let's not single him out here. No single person wins or loses a game.

That being said, his jumper wasn't falling. Instead of continuing to just jack up shots he decided he would be aggressive and try and get contact. And for the most part, it worked. He got six points from the line. He just took it a bit too far. Only one charge was really bad (the last one). The others you have to live with if you want Lin to be aggressive. He still managed to scrape out eight points and he had a lot of good passes for wide open looks that were missed. Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way.

People sure seem to have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude.

[2k15]

Yeah he was bad but let's not single him out here. No single person wins or loses a game.

That being said, his jumper wasn't falling. Instead of continuing to just jack up shots he decided he would be aggressive and try and get contact. And for the most part, it worked. He got six points from the line. He just took it a bit too far. Only one charge was really bad (the last one). The others you have to live with if you want Lin to be aggressive. He still managed to scrape out eight points and he had a lot of good passes for wide open looks that were missed. Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way.

People sure seem to have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude.

You can't have high expectations of Lin (i.e. he needs to start) and have low expectations when it comes to his on court performance.

Be consistent. If you really think Lin is just a $2mm per year player, then yes this game doesn't matter. He has earned more than that already.

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[bws94]

Yeah he was bad but let's not single him out here. No single person wins or loses a game.

That being said, his jumper wasn't falling. Instead of continuing to just jack up shots he decided he would be aggressive and try and get contact. And for the most part, it worked. He got six points from the line. He just took it a bit too far. Only one charge was really bad (the last one). The others you have to live with if you want Lin to be aggressive. He still managed to scrape out eight points and he had a lot of good passes for wide open looks that were missed. Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way.

People sure seem to have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude.

You can't have high expectations of Lin (i.e. he needs to start) and have low expectations when it comes to his on court performance.

Be consistent. If you really think Lin is just a $2mm per year player, then yes this game doesn't matter. He has earned more than that already.

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Lin has been absolutely solid in the playoffs except this one game. He has been instrumental in the 3 wins we had. No Lin, we don't win any of those games. He had a bad game in terms of forcing the issue in the 2nd half and picking up the dribble too much in the first half and he played solid D on Wade in the 3Q. Outside of Kemba and Al, we didn't help those guys out except for Frank early. Batum is hobbling and ineffective, Cody is hobbling and had limited play time, Hawes is down, so Lin, Marv and Courtney were needed to provide some fire power. They had the firepower of a match. Let's hope for better the next game. And Lin is a huge player especially since Batum is down, to take pressure off of Kemba. He's also targeted by Spo to be contained maybe more than Kemba, so Lin has to read the defenses right, and adjust his game accordingly while still staying aggressive and getting to his spots on the floor to score and facilitate. And stay out of foul trouble. His salary and whether he plays off the bench or not are non-factors. We know what his production is and that is what should be expected of him.

[2k15]

Yeah he was bad but let's not single him out here. No single person wins or loses a game.

That being said, his jumper wasn't falling. Instead of continuing to just jack up shots he decided he would be aggressive and try and get contact. And for the most part, it worked. He got six points from the line. He just took it a bit too far. Only one charge was really bad (the last one). The others you have to live with if you want Lin to be aggressive. He still managed to scrape out eight points and he had a lot of good passes for wide open looks that were missed. Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way.

People sure seem to have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude.

You can't have high expectations of Lin (i.e. he needs to start) and have low expectations when it comes to his on court performance.

Be consistent. If you really think Lin is just a $2mm per year player, then yes this game doesn't matter. He has earned more than that already.

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Lin has been absolutely solid in the playoffs except this one game. He has been instrumental in the 3 wins we had. No Lin, we don't win any of those games. He had a bad game in terms of forcing the issue in the 2nd half and picking up the dribble too much in the first half and he played solid D on Wade in the 3Q. Outside of Kemba and Al, we didn't help those guys out except for Frank early. Batum is hobbling and ineffective, Cody is hobbling and had limited play time, Hawes is down, so Lin, Marv and Courtney were needed to provide some fire power. They had the firepower of a match. Let's hope for better the next game. And Lin is a huge player especially since Batum is down, to take pressure off of Kemba. He's also targeted by Spo to be contained maybe more than Kemba, so Lin has to read the defenses right, and adjust his game accordingly while still staying aggressive and getting to his spots on the floor to score and facilitate. And stay out of foul trouble. His salary and whether he plays off the bench or not are non-factors. We know what his production is and that is what should be expected of him.

Excuses. For everything you said about Lin, the same disadvantages apply to Kemba. To be clear, I don't expect greatness from him but a 40% fg with 0 turnovers would be A Ok with me.

We will see what he does tomorrow.

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[bws94]

You can't have high expectations of Lin (i.e. he needs to start) and have low expectations when it comes to his on court performance.

Be consistent. If you really think Lin is just a $2mm per year player, then yes this game doesn't matter. He has earned more than that already.

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Lin has been absolutely solid in the playoffs except this one game. He has been instrumental in the 3 wins we had. No Lin, we don't win any of those games. He had a bad game in terms of forcing the issue in the 2nd half and picking up the dribble too much in the first half and he played solid D on Wade in the 3Q. Outside of Kemba and Al, we didn't help those guys out except for Frank early. Batum is hobbling and ineffective, Cody is hobbling and had limited play time, Hawes is down, so Lin, Marv and Courtney were needed to provide some fire power. They had the firepower of a match. Let's hope for better the next game. And Lin is a huge player especially since Batum is down, to take pressure off of Kemba. He's also targeted by Spo to be contained maybe more than Kemba, so Lin has to read the defenses right, and adjust his game accordingly while still staying aggressive and getting to his spots on the floor to score and facilitate. And stay out of foul trouble. His salary and whether he plays off the bench or not are non-factors. We know what his production is and that is what should be expected of him.

Excuses. For everything you said about Lin, the same disadvantages apply to Kemba. To be clear, I don't expect greatness from him but a 40% fg with 0 turnovers would be A Ok with me.

We will see what he does tomorrow.

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I gave 0 excuses. I have no idea of what you are talking about. I said he had 5 out of 6 solid games and issues he had in game 6. Did you mean to respond to my comments?

[2k15]

Lin has been absolutely solid in the playoffs except this one game. He has been instrumental in the 3 wins we had. No Lin, we don't win any of those games. He had a bad game in terms of forcing the issue in the 2nd half and picking up the dribble too much in the first half and he played solid D on Wade in the 3Q. Outside of Kemba and Al, we didn't help those guys out except for Frank early. Batum is hobbling and ineffective, Cody is hobbling and had limited play time, Hawes is down, so Lin, Marv and Courtney were needed to provide some fire power. They had the firepower of a match. Let's hope for better the next game. And Lin is a huge player especially since Batum is down, to take pressure off of Kemba. He's also targeted by Spo to be contained maybe more than Kemba, so Lin has to read the defenses right, and adjust his game accordingly while still staying aggressive and getting to his spots on the floor to score and facilitate. And stay out of foul trouble. His salary and whether he plays off the bench or not are non-factors. We know what his production is and that is what should be expected of him.

Excuses. For everything you said about Lin, the same disadvantages apply to Kemba. To be clear, I don't expect greatness from him but a 40% fg with 0 turnovers would be A Ok with me.

We will see what he does tomorrow.

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I gave 0 excuses. I have no idea of what you are talking about. I said he had 5 out of 6 solid games and issues he had in game 6. Did you mean to respond to my comments?

I read it quickly while I was at the gym. Diagnosis seems on point but come on, let's not pretend like Spo cares about stopping Lin more than Kemba; they were just more effective at stopping Lin than Kemba since Lin only had one speed and one trick.

If Lin had played a normal game, like Game 1 or 2, I (or the others) wouldn't have had such a strong reaction. But he absolutely looked like he did not belong out there yesterday (tentative, missing bunnies, forcing issues). He played OK defense but I am not sure that he helped the team more than he hurt the team yesterday. That's why you get comments like he's wilting under pressure. I am not sure why he was such a net negative yesterday but for Christ's sake I hope he acts like he belong on the court tomorrow. That's all anybody can ask for. I set the bar pretty low - 40% FG and 0-1 turnover and I would be thrilled.

[bws94]

Excuses. For everything you said about Lin, the same disadvantages apply to Kemba. To be clear, I don't expect greatness from him but a 40% fg with 0 turnovers would be A Ok with me.

We will see what he does tomorrow.

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I gave 0 excuses. I have no idea of what you are talking about. I said he had 5 out of 6 solid games and issues he had in game 6. Did you mean to respond to my comments?

I read it quickly while I was at the gym. Diagnosis seems on point but come on, let's not pretend like Spo cares about stopping Lin more than Kemba; they were just more effective at stopping Lin than Kemba since Lin only had one speed and one trick.

If Lin had played a normal game, like Game 1 or 2, I (or the others) wouldn't have had such a strong reaction. But he absolutely looked like he did not belong out there yesterday (tentative, missing bunnies, forcing issues). He played OK defense but I am not sure that he helped the team more than he hurt the team yesterday. That's why you get comments like he's wilting under pressure. I am not sure why he was such a net negative yesterday but for Christ's sake I hope he acts like he belong on the court tomorrow. That's all anybody can ask for. I set the bar pretty low - 40% FG and 0-1 turnover and I would be thrilled.

Game 3, first at home, need guys to play well se we don't go down 0-3, Lin steps up and is instrumental in the win and top scorer. Game 4, Lin steps up as does Kemba. Game 5, Lin steps up in terms of asissts. Game 6, Lin has a poor game. That's not fair to say he shrunk. Yes, he had a bad game, and when he looks bad he looks terrible, but it is 1 game and my point is about the whole series.

Guys like Marv and Courtney Lee had even less production than Lin the past game and they could have helped Kemba's big effort.

I think while Lin should vary a lot of his game and work on it, it's a bit much to say 1 speed and one trick. He can finish in a number of ways and does have hesitation moves, it's just he tends not to utilize them as much as he should and could expand on them.

At any rate, Lin is one of the best performers overall in the playoffs. And I won't dump on him on this bad game. It's over, hopefully it is out of his system, and hopefully he gets back in the groove and find's his game 3/4 form and helps the team to a victory. But we also need Marv and Courtney Lee to put it in the net as well.

[2k15]

I gave 0 excuses. I have no idea of what you are talking about. I said he had 5 out of 6 solid games and issues he had in game 6. Did you mean to respond to my comments?

I read it quickly while I was at the gym. Diagnosis seems on point but come on, let's not pretend like Spo cares about stopping Lin more than Kemba; they were just more effective at stopping Lin than Kemba since Lin only had one speed and one trick.

If Lin had played a normal game, like Game 1 or 2, I (or the others) wouldn't have had such a strong reaction. But he absolutely looked like he did not belong out there yesterday (tentative, missing bunnies, forcing issues). He played OK defense but I am not sure that he helped the team more than he hurt the team yesterday. That's why you get comments like he's wilting under pressure. I am not sure why he was such a net negative yesterday but for Christ's sake I hope he acts like he belong on the court tomorrow. That's all anybody can ask for. I set the bar pretty low - 40% FG and 0-1 turnover and I would be thrilled.

Game 3, first at home, need guys to play well se we don't go down 0-3, Lin steps up and is instrumental in the win and top scorer. Game 4, Lin steps up as does Kemba. Game 5, Lin steps up in terms of asissts. Game 6, Lin has a poor game. That's not fair to say he shrunk. Yes, he had a bad game, and when he looks bad he looks terrible, but it is 1 game and my point is about the whole series.

Guys like Marv and Courtney Lee had even less production than Lin the past game and they could have helped Kemba's big effort.

I think while Lin should vary a lot of his game and work on it, it's a bit much to say 1 speed and one trick. He can finish in a number of ways and does have hesitation moves, it's just he tends not to utilize them as much as he should and could expand on them.

At any rate, Lin is one of the best performers overall in the playoffs. And I won't dump on him on this bad game. It's over, hopefully it is out of his system, and hopefully he gets back in the groove and find's his game 3/4 form and helps the team to a victory. But we also need Marv and Courtney Lee to put it in the net as well.

Why are you explaining the games to me? I watched them. I know what Lin has done. You don't really seem to get it.

[rallydurham]

Jeremy Lin discussions are just so beyond ridiculous.

Look, the guy has already peaked in this league. He is a solid backup combo guard. Clifford has put him in the best position as a facilitator in the lineups with kemba. Most teams don't have a 2nd guy who can guard lin while their primary on the ball defender is assigned to kemba.

But the reality is he's a poor shooter and he's too turnover prone to be a starting PG in this league. Hes a score first guard who belongs on 2nd units that have trouble generating their own offense.

Hes found his niche in this league and if he stays healthy he will have another couple years in the league in a similar role. But he turns 28 this year so his athleticism is on the decline and despite his hard work his ballhandling and shooting appear to have topped out.

I like watching lin. I'm a fan. Nothing bad to say about him. But be realistic. Most teams have a use for a solid change of pace guard off the bench. Hes clearly better than say Rodney Stuckey . He is highly unlikely to unseat ANY current starters in this league.

Philly doesn't count because they don't actually have a pg, and Lin doesn't fit their time window unless Coleangelo is a total idiot.

Brooklyn is an exception but i think they stick with larkin. They could sure use the marketing of lin so i think this is a possibility.

Chicago is in dire need of a point guard and butler can play the 3 so he makes sense in split pairings with rose.


Lin has already peaked in this league. The stats and role he had in Houston are in the past.

In a typical year he'd be getting a 2/$7-9 type deal coming off this season. This year who really knows but I'll guess 2/$12. I doubt any contenders would be interested and he's too old for a team that's rebuilding as he's entered the downside of his career.

Honestly teams like charlotte make he most sense for him. I like troy Daniels though and we already have lamb signed so he's unlikely to be back. I could see sacramento making a play as hey are desperate for attention heading into the new arena. Okc needs a backup and he'd be a good fit with westbrook. Hell they were so desperate they traded for a washed up foye

[2k15]

Jeremy Lin discussions are just so beyond ridiculous.

Look, the guy has already peaked in this league. He is a solid backup combo guard. Clifford has put him in the best position as a facilitator in the lineups with kemba. Most teams don't have a 2nd guy who can guard lin while their primary on the ball defender is assigned to kemba.

But the reality is he's a poor shooter and he's too turnover prone to be a starting PG in this league. Hes a score first guard who belongs on 2nd units that have trouble generating their own offense.

Hes found his niche in this league and if he stays healthy he will have another couple years in the league in a similar role. But he turns 28 this year so his athleticism is on the decline and despite his hard work his ballhandling and shooting appear to have topped out.

I like watching lin. I'm a fan. Nothing bad to say about him. But be realistic. Most teams have a use for a solid change of pace guard off the bench. Hes clearly better than say Rodney Stuckey . He is highly unlikely to unseat ANY current starters in this league.

Philly doesn't count because they don't actually have a pg, and Lin doesn't fit their time window unless Coleangelo is a total idiot.

Brooklyn is an exception but i think they stick with larkin. They could sure use the marketing of lin so i think this is a possibility.

Chicago is in dire need of a point guard and butler can play the 3 so he makes sense in split pairings with rose.


Lin has already peaked in this league. The stats and role he had in Houston are in the past.

In a typical year he'd be getting a 2/$7-9 type deal coming off this season. This year who really knows but I'll guess 2/$12

Everyone has got opinions on this guy. You're certainly not the first and you definitely won't be the last. Cool, glad you got that off your chest. I obviously disagree that he's peaked (and so does Clifford for that matter) but this is the internet, nobody's minds are being changed here so I leave you with this:

[rallydurham]

I mean dude he's 28 and his numbers declined his year after he had very tepid interest in the offseason.

Unless he reinvents himself as a shooter it's just not going to happen. The average nba player peaks at 25. And he's pretty darn average

[PG13]

If you don't think Spo cares about stopping Lin more than stopping Kemba you either didn't watch this series or you don't know bball. Lin has impacted this series way more than Kemba. You take out Lin, you take out someone who can score, who can run the offense, and can play decent defense. He can make them pay in so many ways.

[ChokeFasncists]

pretty straightforward in terms of the situation last game. miami crowded the paint against lin, forcing him to shoot from distance but his shot was off. not just off but broken, as he was reverting to his old cock-and-launch form instead of the newer, more fluid release.

also, they put the bigger, more experienced Deng on him, making him think twice about midrange shots and taking away easy passing angles. and Lin doesn't even attempt to do post moves, so he got stuck several times.

the vets Deng and Haslem all series did an excellent good job drawing charges on Lin. and they figured out Lin was not getting the benefit of the doubt for the gray-area cases. indeed, I thought the officiating could have gone the other way on some of those, but that's how it's being officiated and Lin failed to adapt to that in the game. going two straight possessions with offensive charges is frustrating to see. the charges really killed momentum by both turning it over AND quickly getting Lin in foul trouble. double whammy, leaving Kemba to carry the load at the end.

the jumper needs to be there next time. it's kinda been the theme of this season. semi-broken jumper.

Lin did say after the game that they failed to carry out the plan, so perhaps he was just concentrating on that instead of being hesitant per se. in other words, it's not necessarily a confidence thing and more like trying to square what he is seeing in the game with cliff's plan. whatever it was, his body language looked to me like he was overthinking it in the first half. second half, just put his head down and beelined to the bucket but that didn't turn out well.

Nice post. I suspect that the refs give him more calls when he gets whacked but compensate by calling loose ball or offensive fouls the other way if it's close.

Since he was arguably the most important player on the team for three straight wins, it only makes sense that the opposing coach would do something about it. Unfortunately, him and his coach weren't ready for it. They'd better be tomorrow.

So what if he was huge the last couple of games? He played like trash this game.

I dunno if this is directed to my post, if in case it is, what I was saying was that, it's better to temper expectations and not get too down; perspective.

Kemba is playing through pain (Lin said in post-game interview after game 4 or 5) but for some reason injury is an excuse for Lin but not for Kemba.

Lin is not immune to criticism. Stop making excuses for him.

Well, it depends on the severity of the injury. People are saying that Nic is injured and playing bad, does that count as making excuses?

You can't have high expectations of Lin (i.e. he needs to start) and have low expectations when it comes to his on court performance.

Be consistent.

Generally this is good thinking. However, in this specific case, Lin is in general a very good overall player/facilitator that deserves and is suitable to start, but his main flaw has been consistency post-Linsanity. One could only hope that he become more consistent, better sooner than later.

But the reality is he's a poor shooter and he's too turnover prone to be a starting PG in this league. Hes a score first guard who belongs on 2nd units that have trouble generating their own offense.

He's pass first, it's just that when he comes off the bench, he needs to score. He understands that if he can score, he could draw defenders and it could open up easier scoring opportunities for his teammates.

He's changing his shooting form. He was a better shooter and most likely will be, as Cliff predicts. Being turnover prone is his main problem but it has improved a lot this season, there's no reason to believe that it won't get better still.

He is highly unlikely to unseat ANY current starters in this league.

Philly doesn't count because they don't actually have a pg, and Lin doesn't fit their time window unless Coleangelo is a total idiot.

Brooklyn is an exception but i think they stick with larkin. They could sure use the marketing of lin so i think this is a possibility.

Chicago is in dire need of a point guard and butler can play the 3 so he makes sense in split pairings with rose.

How about NYK? Calderon is old.
How about SAS? Parker is old.
How about Dallas? DWill has opted out.
How about Utah? Exum is still unproven.
How about Sac? Rondo might leave.
How about the Bucks? MCW isn't doing well there.

I don't think Colangelo would be a total idiot if he acquires Lin.
Larkin isn't that good. Maybe you like him but most don't as much.

In a typical year he'd be getting a 2/$7-9 type deal coming off this season. This year who really knows but I'll guess 2/$12. I doubt any contenders would be interested and he's too old for a team that's rebuilding as he's entered the downside of his career.

Honestly teams like charlotte make he most sense for him.

I can understand that you'd like your team to have him, preferable for cheap. However, objectively, this is most likely not what is really going on.

I mean dude he's 28 and his numbers declined his year after he had very tepid interest in the offseason.

His per 36 and starting stats disagree.

Unless he reinvents himself as a shooter it's just not going to happen.

Well, it's most likely to happen. Again, he's just in the process of changing his shooting form, he's bound to get better.

The average nba player peaks at 25. And he's pretty darn average

PGs don't mature so early, Lowry and Nash say hi. Asians tend to mature later. He's definitely not your average NBA player. How many NBA players don't get to go to a good NCAA Bball school even tho he won championship in HS as a great player? How many NBA players got a degree from Harvard? How many NBA players got undrafted and posted historical numbers as soon as they get to play?

His learning curve is slower than most. It's best to be patient, otherwise, it'd be a self-fulfilling prophecy of the wrong kind.

[PG13]

I don't know where the idea of Lin has peaked came from. His points per 36 has increased every year after New York. His 3FG% took a dip while he's adjusting to his new shooting form. Last season his 3FG% was 37%, which is what Kemba is shooting this season. Even Clifford said that Lin will improve after he gets used to his new shooting form.

And before you criticize his FG% in the playoffs, he's shooting 40%, still better than Kemba's.

[rallydurham]

I mean I realize lin fans are typically younger and more casual basketball fans but the fanaticism is borderline delusional.

I like Lin. I'm a fan of his game and I want him to do well. But he's shooting 40% in the playoffs with a weak ast/to ratio and 0.5 steals. Im not here deriding him and saying he's been terrible but it's truly delusional to think he's having some amaking series.

I'm not going to sit here and lay out a 12 page diagram as to why jeremy lin career arc probably won't be the same as Steve Nash. He's the 2nd greatest shooter in nba history and a two time league MVP. Jeremy Lin is a solid backup combo guard.

If i made a similar comparison between the career of Jarrett jack and Steve Nash I'd be labeled as a nutjob.

That's how the Lin fanatics come off to people who are able to see the reality of the situation.

Honestly, I don't care at all if the Hornets resign Lin. I'm indifferent to it because he's just not an integral piece of anyones future. With something like 80% certainty he is what he is at this point. He's more likely to see his productivity fall off a cliff than explode. If his athleticism slips as he ages or sustains injuries he will have difficulty carving out meaningful minutes in a rotation. He simply doesn't have the ballahndling or shooting to fall back on. And he's not a plus defender.

His future in the nba is relatively limited as he's just not quite good enough or young enough to warrant a big contract.

That doesn't mean he can't have the occasional big game or be a fan favorite wherever he ends up.

Hes got limitless marketing and business potential after basketball. He should concentrate on wringing every ounce of talent out of him that he's got because it's clearly paid off in amassing a legion of global fans that Jarrett Jack will never have to fall back on after his playing career is over.

[2k15]

If you don't think Spo cares about stopping Lin more than stopping Kemba you either didn't watch this series or you don't know bball. Lin has impacted this series way more than Kemba. You take out Lin, you take out someone who can score, who can run the offense, and can play decent defense. He can make them pay in so many ways.

LOL, please. Show me the proof. Show me what they did specifically to target Lin and not Kemba.

[2k15]

I mean I realize lin fans are typically younger and more casual basketball fans but the fanaticism is borderline delusional.

I like Lin. I'm a fan of his game and I want him to do well. But he's shooting 40% in the playoffs with a weak ast/to ratio and 0.5 steals. Im not here deriding him and saying he's been terrible but it's truly delusional to think he's having some amaking series.

I'm not going to sit here and lay out a 12 page diagram as to why jeremy lin career arc probably won't be the same as Steve Nash. He's the 2nd greatest shooter in nba history and a two time league MVP. Jeremy Lin is a solid backup combo guard.

If i made a similar comparison between the career of Jarrett jack and Steve Nash I'd be labeled as a nutjob.

That's how the Lin fanatics come off to people who are able to see the reality of the situation.

Honestly, I don't care at all if the Hornets resign Lin. I'm indifferent to it because he's just not an integral piece of anyones future. With something like 80% certainty he is what he is at this point. He's more likely to see his productivity fall off a cliff than explode. If his athleticism slips as he ages or sustains injuries he will have difficulty carving out meaningful minutes in a rotation. He simply doesn't have the ballahndling or shooting to fall back on. And he's not a plus defender.

His future in the nba is relatively limited as he's just not quite good enough or young enough to warrant a big contract.

That doesn't mean he can't have the occasional big game or be a fan favorite wherever he ends up.

Hes got limitless marketing and business potential after basketball. He should concentrate on wringing every ounce of talent out of him that he's got because it's clearly paid off in amassing a legion of global fans that Jarrett Jack will never have to fall back on after his playing career is over.

Did you just started paying attention to the Hornets? Lin's struggle with his shot this season is well-documented.

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If you don't think Spo cares about stopping Lin more than stopping Kemba you either didn't watch this series or you don't know bball. Lin has impacted this series way more than Kemba. You take out Lin, you take out someone who can score, who can run the offense, and can play decent defense. He can make them pay in so many ways.

LOL, please. Show me the proof. Show me what they did specifically to target Lin and not Kemba.

If you have comprehension difficulties and can't read my post quit quoting me. Where did I say they did not target Kemba?

Last time I ignored you, you looked up the answer yourself. I don't need to show you any proof. You can show the opposite if you want, but stop quoting me please.