Hornets Lineup Talk

[luciano-davidwesley]

Only been 65 mins but Bridges is rocking a 114 def rating
Opposed to Gordon and PJ both at 124.
Miller and Melo are 121.
Mark and Terry at 119
Thor and Nick are 116.

I don't hate the idea of a lineup of
LaMelo- Miller-Miles-Thor-Mark.

Thor takes over the stand in the corner role on offense and maybe see if playing him with 4 good offensive players is a sneaky way to get him 20 mpg. I am not saying this is longterm because Rozier will be back but in the short term Hayward and PJ off the bench should be able to find their offensive rythym if they play a 2 man game surrounded by Richards and McGowens.

I don't mind the premise, we can play 4 out with no defensive liabilities other than Melo if Thor is in the starting line up and Mark can hit a mid range jumper too. The spacing should be OK if Thor is hitting his corner 3's.

[yosemiteben]

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-hornets/article281762278.html

INJURY UPDATES

The Hornets’ list of walking wounded is slowly improving.

Terry Rozier, Cody Martin and James Bouknight are all in the latter stages of ramping up their conditioning levels so they can soon begin participating in team activities. They’ve been doing individual work to get the process moving.

Nick Richards was at the arena again for a second straight day and is feeling better. But the big man still has not attempted to navigate any of the hurdles associated with clearing the NBA’s concussion protocol.

Of the Hornets’ five central figures dealing with injuries, Frank Ntilikina is the furthest away from making an appearance in game action. Although he shed the crutches he utilized to stay mobile after fracturing his left tibia in the preseason finale, Ntilikina is only doing light shooting and light individual work as he slowly makes his way back.

[LofJ]

A healthy Cody Martin would make a huge difference for this team. More than anyone else on that injury list.

[GoBobs]

Only been 65 mins but Bridges is rocking a 114 def rating
Opposed to Gordon and PJ both at 124.
Miller and Melo are 121.
Mark and Terry at 119
Thor and Nick are 116.

I don't hate the idea of a lineup of
LaMelo- Miller-Miles-Thor-Mark.

Thor takes over the stand in the corner role on offense and maybe see if playing him with 4 good offensive players is a sneaky way to get him 20 mpg. I am not saying this is longterm because Rozier will be back but in the short term Hayward and PJ off the bench should be able to find their offensive rythym if they play a 2 man game surrounded by Richards and McGowens.

I don't mind the premise, we can play 4 out with no defensive liabilities other than Melo if Thor is in the starting line up and Mark can hit a mid range jumper too. The spacing should be OK if Thor is hitting his corner 3's.

There was one play last game when Bridges has the ball in the mid post with a double team on him. Bridges is like sizing these two guys up and Thor is all alone at the top of the key waving his arms like he wants the ball.

So Bridges passes Thor the ball and nobody is like within 7 feet of him. Thor doesn't look at the basket or think about dribbling, he just looks for somebody else to pass to. He uses like half the shot clock waiting for somebody to come get the ball from him, and he is like waving guys to cut and the whole time nobody is guarding him.

The forward rotation needs to be Bridges, PJ, Brandon Miller, and Hayward. If we need more minutes after that, I don't know, maybe Nick Smith Jr. Somebody that knows how to play.

[Rich4114]

I don't hate the idea of a lineup of
LaMelo- Miller-Miles-Thor-Mark.

Thor takes over the stand in the corner role on offense and maybe see if playing him with 4 good offensive players is a sneaky way to get him 20 mpg. I am not saying this is longterm because Rozier will be back but in the short term Hayward and PJ off the bench should be able to find their offensive rythym if they play a 2 man game surrounded by Richards and McGowens.

I don't mind the premise, we can play 4 out with no defensive liabilities other than Melo if Thor is in the starting line up and Mark can hit a mid range jumper too. The spacing should be OK if Thor is hitting his corner 3's.

There was one play last game when Bridges has the ball in the mid post with a double team on him. Bridges is like sizing these two guys up and Thor is all alone at the top of the key waving his arms like he wants the ball.

So Bridges passes Thor the ball and nobody is like within 7 feet of him. Thor doesn't look at the basket or think about dribbling, he just looks for somebody else to pass to. He uses like half the shot clock waiting for somebody to come get the ball from him, and he is like waving guys to cut and the whole time nobody is guarding him.

The forward rotation needs to be Bridges, PJ, Brandon Miller, and Hayward. If we need more minutes after that, I don't know, maybe Nick Smith Jr. Somebody that knows how to play.

Thor doesn't know how to play organized basketball, so he becomes hesitant and slow to make moves. He's also sloppy with the ball, cannot finish around the rim despite being 6'11" and outside of his occasional corner 3, brings absolutely zero to the table in all other aspects. We need to upgrade that rotational spot badly.

[fatlever]

good thing our brain dead gm didn't think it was important to get a legit back up point guard this summer, even though our star point guard missed 75% of the season with 4 different ankle injuries and fresh off a broken ankle.
who could have seen this scenario coming, right?

[Rich4114]

good thing our brain dead gm didn't think it was important to get a legit back up point guard this summer, even though our star point guard missed 75% of the season with 4 different ankle injuries and fresh off a broken ankle.
who could have seen this scenario coming, right?

How do you explain what Mitch has done for 24 months? I mean, he fired JB, resigned some of his own guys, ran the draft and then just coasted the rest of the way making zero effort to retool or upgrade the roster in a serious way. All while we all stood there and saw the glaring holes in the roster that could've easily been addressed either via trade or free agency. Were things frozen because of Miles the first year? I guess you could give him a pass for that. But this past off season when you're pushing the playoff agenda? Nah, this is malpractice.

[JMAC3]

good thing our brain dead gm didn't think it was important to get a legit back up point guard this summer, even though our star point guard missed 75% of the season with 4 different ankle injuries and fresh off a broken ankle.
who could have seen this scenario coming, right?

How do you explain what Mitch has done for 24 months? I mean, he fired JB, resigned some of his own guys, ran the draft and then just coasted the rest of the way making zero effort to retool or upgrade the roster in a serious way. All while we all stood there and saw the glaring holes in the roster that could've easily been addressed either via trade or free agency. Were things frozen because of Miles the first year? I guess you could give him a pass for that. But this past off season when you're pushing the playoff agenda? Nah, this is malpractice.

I agree and disagree. Mitch did lock up our best player on a Max extension, PJ signed to a reasonable 3 year deal and brought back Miles on a deal most of us ultimately can't be too upset at. He also made what looks to be a great pick in Brandon Miller.

My biggest issues was we didn't use all the space we could have and now we are seeing the issues raise up that could have been avoided. Injuries happen in the NBA, building a team that can only be successful when everyone plays isn't realistic. Especially when you knew Miles was missing first 10 games.

Kai should have been cut, we saw that coming. The fact we still don't have a 3rd center on the roster or a 2way is nuts. If Mark were to miss a game right now we would have zero healthy centers. I don't even really have an issue with the Frank signing, but that should have just been part of the plan, not The Plan. Theo being such an important piece on a 2way deal speaks for itself. Ish being a rotation piece at this point in his career is another major red flag. Realistically we still have too many young guys on the roster we are trying to develop. The 2 way program is in place so that teams can carry more real NBA vets and still develop, but we use it to just stock load 2nd rounders who we don't feel comfortable playing because we are cheap and would rather fill the roster that way instead of using the MLE or going 10 million over the Cap to have a real playoff roster.

I blame Mitch, but I also blame the front office who is probably telling him not to spend a bunch of money.

[fatlever]

not adding a legit backup or a 3rd center is bonkers. i'll never understand mitch from roster construction standpoint.

[JDR720]

Mitch wanted to retire, he isn't invested in the future of the team.

[Rich4114]

Speaking of Mitch and the Kai situation:

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[JMAC3]

McCants is a bum, he is the biggest crybaby. Dude thinks he was LeBron and everyone was against him.

[Rich4114]

McCants is a bum, he is the biggest crybaby. Dude thinks he was LeBron and everyone was against him.

I was trying to figure out who that was! I mean take it with a grain of salt for sure, but Mitch strikes me as someone way out of touch with what's going on in current NBA. Same as our HC.

[Bassman]

Yes, both GM and coach are way past their expiration dates. This organization needed a REorganization about 2 years ago. MJ sowed the seeds by installing personnel based on the “friends and family” plan. That leads to a bunch of “yes” men who placate the boss to keep their gravy train running. Mitch engineered a BAD draft in ‘21. Why? Maybe he was lazy…maybe they ALL were lazy. Think he was cooked before that off-season and should have retired then.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Speaking of Mitch and the Kai situation:

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Lol the amount of stupid on this show

[luciano-davidwesley]

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McCants is just salty at Mitch cos he told him he should retire (at 27) and then signed 40 year old Nash.

To be fair Mitch was right, McCants never played again in the NBA after that!

[fatlever]

play miller 30-35
feature terry and gordon enough to keep up trade value. gotta trade both by deadline.
play bouk just enough to move him to a team wanting a free 3 month look
feature nick jr over bryce and theo. lets see what he can do.
find some rotating g-league bigs to try as 3rd center once 1-days open in later year

[Diop]

i still want a vet point guard to lead the team while Ball is out, and not one pulled out of retirement.

[fatlever]

3pt shooting finally trending up

last 10 gms
18th in 3pa
3rd in 3p%

for season, everyone except pj, theo and gh are avg or above avg %. smith jr 66%, bryce at 46%, miles 45% (neither sustainable), melo 38%, miller 37%, terry/thor 36%

[fatlever]

last 10
drtg 29th (still god awful)
ortg 23rd (trending up)